WORLD CUP 2010 Discussion thread
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Expect loads of goals, according to this article - http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/page/worldcup101-04142010/ce/us/why-scoring-go-world-cup?cc=3436&ver=global
Interesting read.
Interesting read.
God that's such a depressingly American audience focused piece. I love the art of defence.
I love high scoring games too mind you.
I also think it could be a high scoring world cup, but primarily because there are so many really poor teams this year. Every group has absolute cannon fodder in it.
South Africa, Korea, Slovenia, New Zealand, Korea CPR and Honduras in particular should ship a bunch of goals.
I love high scoring games too mind you.
I also think it could be a high scoring world cup, but primarily because there are so many really poor teams this year. Every group has absolute cannon fodder in it.
South Africa, Korea, Slovenia, New Zealand, Korea CPR and Honduras in particular should ship a bunch of goals.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=37914.msg1093831#msg1093831 date=1272358633]
I also think it could be a high scoring world cup, but primarily because there are so many really poor teams this year.
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That and there'll be some new fangled ball which curls at right angles.
I also think it could be a high scoring world cup, but primarily because there are so many really poor teams this year.
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That and there'll be some new fangled ball which curls at right angles.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37914.msg1094459#msg1094459 date=1272410643]
According to The Times, Capello's gonna pick Ledley King in his WC Squad.
Given that he struggles to play one game per week, and the other centre-back options are also ageing and injury prone - Is this really a wise idea?
[/quote]Ive heard that. It just makes no sense.
We've gone from having a million top class centre backs to next to nothing
terry is playing like a cunt, rio is perma injured, king is a crock, lescott playing like wanker, upson playing like a wanker........
Dawson is about the most consistent we have at present.
According to The Times, Capello's gonna pick Ledley King in his WC Squad.
Given that he struggles to play one game per week, and the other centre-back options are also ageing and injury prone - Is this really a wise idea?
[/quote]Ive heard that. It just makes no sense.
We've gone from having a million top class centre backs to next to nothing
terry is playing like a cunt, rio is perma injured, king is a crock, lescott playing like wanker, upson playing like a wanker........
Dawson is about the most consistent we have at present.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=37914.msg1094463#msg1094463 date=1272411823]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37914.msg1094459#msg1094459 date=1272410643]
According to The Times, Capello's gonna pick Ledley King in his WC Squad.
Given that he struggles to play one game per week, and the other centre-back options are also ageing and injury prone - Is this really a wise idea?
[/quote]Ive heard that. It just makes no sense.
We've gone from having a million top class centre backs to next to nothing
terry is playing like a cunt, rio is perma injured, king is a crock, lescott playing like wanker, upson playing like a wanker........
Dawson is about the most consistent we have at present.
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Well, Dawson's not going to this or any World Cup, so let's knock that one on the head quickstyle.
I can *some* merit in picking King because he's an outstanding centre-back (Didn't Henry say he was the best centre-back he played against in the Premier League?), but anyone who can only play one game per week is certainly going to struggle.
What happens if/when they get to the knockout rounds? do you select him for the 2nd round game, rest him for the QF, then bring him back for the Semi-Final? fuck that.
Or is he just back-up for Rio and EBJT? Hardly solid back-up is he? I'd be stunned if Rio makes it through the tournament unscathed, so you're going to have to rely on back-up sometime - in this case, a hardly-reliable King. Or Upson. Can't see too many of the World's best strikers fearing Matthew Upson when it comes to the latter stages of the tournament, can you?
England have history in this area of selecting players under an injury cloud. Given that the rest of their back-four won't be fucking solid options either; Cole (out for 4 months), Warnock?, and no decent back-up to the defensively weak Glenjo... Hmmm. I'd be concerned if I was an England fan.
I've said it before, but I'd take Phil Neville. Can play anywhere, good defensively, and excellent cover. Not a fashionable pick, but a sound one.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37914.msg1094459#msg1094459 date=1272410643]
According to The Times, Capello's gonna pick Ledley King in his WC Squad.
Given that he struggles to play one game per week, and the other centre-back options are also ageing and injury prone - Is this really a wise idea?
[/quote]Ive heard that. It just makes no sense.
We've gone from having a million top class centre backs to next to nothing
terry is playing like a cunt, rio is perma injured, king is a crock, lescott playing like wanker, upson playing like a wanker........
Dawson is about the most consistent we have at present.
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Well, Dawson's not going to this or any World Cup, so let's knock that one on the head quickstyle.
I can *some* merit in picking King because he's an outstanding centre-back (Didn't Henry say he was the best centre-back he played against in the Premier League?), but anyone who can only play one game per week is certainly going to struggle.
What happens if/when they get to the knockout rounds? do you select him for the 2nd round game, rest him for the QF, then bring him back for the Semi-Final? fuck that.
Or is he just back-up for Rio and EBJT? Hardly solid back-up is he? I'd be stunned if Rio makes it through the tournament unscathed, so you're going to have to rely on back-up sometime - in this case, a hardly-reliable King. Or Upson. Can't see too many of the World's best strikers fearing Matthew Upson when it comes to the latter stages of the tournament, can you?
England have history in this area of selecting players under an injury cloud. Given that the rest of their back-four won't be fucking solid options either; Cole (out for 4 months), Warnock?, and no decent back-up to the defensively weak Glenjo... Hmmm. I'd be concerned if I was an England fan.
I've said it before, but I'd take Phil Neville. Can play anywhere, good defensively, and excellent cover. Not a fashionable pick, but a sound one.
Disagree. He's not up to it at fullback, I don't recall him ever playing CB and he's never going to get within wishing distance of the team in midfield. It would be a waste of a squad place.
Maybe Carra should make himself available again?
Capello did sound him out earlier in the season. Carra said no, and I don't think Capello's the kind of man who'll ask twice.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37914.msg1094882#msg1094882 date=1272465099]
Capello did sound him out earlier in the season. Carra said no, and I don't think Capello's the kind of man who'll ask twice.
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Carra will probably send his henchmen around to Capello if he asks again.
And if that happens, Capello better pray that Danny Thompson is around.
Capello did sound him out earlier in the season. Carra said no, and I don't think Capello's the kind of man who'll ask twice.
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Carra will probably send his henchmen around to Capello if he asks again.
And if that happens, Capello better pray that Danny Thompson is around.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=37914.msg1095729#msg1095729 date=1272554817]
Jagielka should be in the WC squad.
Versatile and quality all around; not afraid to get stuck in when the going gets tough either.
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Good shout. Is he injury-free now?
Jagielka should be in the WC squad.
Versatile and quality all around; not afraid to get stuck in when the going gets tough either.
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Good shout. Is he injury-free now?
Not convinced personally. I think he's a good club player but short of international class, and could get found out for England.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37914.msg1096811#msg1096811 date=1272629704]
Not convinced personally. I think he's a good club player but short of international class, and could get found out for England.
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Look at his competition though JJ. As it stands, Matthew Upson will be going to South Africa.
Not convinced personally. I think he's a good club player but short of international class, and could get found out for England.
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Look at his competition though JJ. As it stands, Matthew Upson will be going to South Africa.
Fair point, but if we're talking about CB (and I'm not aware of Upson having played elsewhere) I'd go for Upson over Jagielka in any case, not that there's much in it. Overall I'd sooner see Dawson in the squad than either of them on this season's form, but I'm not expecting to.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37914.msg1096828#msg1096828 date=1272630921]
Fair point, but if we're talking about CB (and I'm not aware of Upson having played elsewhere) I'd go for Upson over Jagielka in any case, not that there's much in it. Overall I'd sooner see Dawson in the squad than either of them on this season's form, but I'm not expecting to.
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The advantage with Jagielka is that he can cover full-back and defensive midfield as well. Obviously it's unlikely because he has no international experience, but I think he'd be a smart choice.
Fair point, but if we're talking about CB (and I'm not aware of Upson having played elsewhere) I'd go for Upson over Jagielka in any case, not that there's much in it. Overall I'd sooner see Dawson in the squad than either of them on this season's form, but I'm not expecting to.
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The advantage with Jagielka is that he can cover full-back and defensive midfield as well. Obviously it's unlikely because he has no international experience, but I think he'd be a smart choice.
Damn, I've got to change my fantasy team now.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37914.msg1098156#msg1098156 date=1272858826]
Xavi's fucked for Spain apparently. Calf injury.
Normally that'd be a nightmare for any side to deal with, but his replacement is likely to be Fabregas.
Fuck me, they are unbelievably good.
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Yeah heard that! He's playing with a 3cm tear in it at the moment! He prefers playing for Brca than spain anyway....he's one of those true hardcore Catalans! He said not so long ago that he'd prefer to die than play for Real Madrid! Ha!
Xavi's fucked for Spain apparently. Calf injury.
Normally that'd be a nightmare for any side to deal with, but his replacement is likely to be Fabregas.
Fuck me, they are unbelievably good.
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Yeah heard that! He's playing with a 3cm tear in it at the moment! He prefers playing for Brca than spain anyway....he's one of those true hardcore Catalans! He said not so long ago that he'd prefer to die than play for Real Madrid! Ha!
Is there any danger of the World Cup being affected by the volcanic ash since the volcano looks to be acting up again? Have Fifa come up with any contingency plans?
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=37914.msg1099896#msg1099896 date=1273118276]
Is there any danger of the World Cup being affected by the volcanic ash since the volcano looks to be acting up again? Have Fifa come up with any contingency plans?
[/quote]Yeah there will be a massive pancontinental Pro-Evo tournament.
Is there any danger of the World Cup being affected by the volcanic ash since the volcano looks to be acting up again? Have Fifa come up with any contingency plans?
[/quote]Yeah there will be a massive pancontinental Pro-Evo tournament.
I heard they were looking into playing online virtual Top Trumps.
Fuckin loved Top Trumps.
Remember the horror ones?
Remember the horror ones?
Gareth Barry a doubt apparently.
You come on here expecting a serious fucking answer and discussion...
Hmph!
Hmph!
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37914.msg1094465#msg1094465 date=1272412329]
Well, Dawson's not going to this or any World Cup, so let's knock that one on the head quickstyle.
You sure, Mr O'Hare ?
He's being talked up a hell of alot at the moment.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37914.msg1098156#msg1098156 date=1272858826]
Xavi's fucked for Spain apparently. Calf injury.
Normally that'd be a nightmare for any side to deal with, but his replacement is likely to be Fabregas.
Will Fabregas be fit. I thought he'd fractured his leg ?
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Well, Dawson's not going to this or any World Cup, so let's knock that one on the head quickstyle.
You sure, Mr O'Hare ?
He's being talked up a hell of alot at the moment.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37914.msg1098156#msg1098156 date=1272858826]
Xavi's fucked for Spain apparently. Calf injury.
Normally that'd be a nightmare for any side to deal with, but his replacement is likely to be Fabregas.
Will Fabregas be fit. I thought he'd fractured his leg ?
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