Quite frankly that video is shocking - brave Russian fans kicking a woman from behind - utter animals
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Why are English supporters the most pitiful in world football?
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Quite frankly that video is shocking - brave Russian fans kicking a woman from behind - utter animals
The comments section is interesting in the mirror, a Russian fan took the time to post..
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Yeah, that Tweet deffo sounds like a proper English Ultra, especially the one that said "if some kind of object doesn't hit me on the head tomorrow I'll be gutted"
So that's certainly funny, but a hooligan asking for trouble? Nah.
So that's certainly funny, but a hooligan asking for trouble? Nah.
Sounds like they'd be lucky to get a semi after the Russians are through with them.
Nah, he's not. I think you're reading something into it.
He's got tickets to the semis, that's all it says. Loads of fans will have, from all countries.
And that's just the females.
That Russian comment is obviously missing a lot in translation, but mirrors an article in the guardian pointing out that although it doesn't seem like England fans are starting fights, the way the fans have behaved basically amounts to congregating on masse in every large public area that isn't a designated fan zone, draping flags over every bar & shop, urinating in the doorways, & singing songs about beating the Germans in the war, the French being cowards & some more tasteless bigoted stuff, is basically asking for trouble.
Its hard to disagree with much of that analysis, & the icing on the cake is of course the fact that every time the police turn up they start trying to fight with them.
The flip side is of course that the Russians have obviously prepared for this in advance so the behaviour is irrelevant, but you have to imagine if they were being a bit more reasonable then the press wouldn't be so quick to turn on them & wouldn't have so many images of England fans trying to attack French police to use to disparage them.
Its hard to disagree with much of that analysis, & the icing on the cake is of course the fact that every time the police turn up they start trying to fight with them.
The flip side is of course that the Russians have obviously prepared for this in advance so the behaviour is irrelevant, but you have to imagine if they were being a bit more reasonable then the press wouldn't be so quick to turn on them & wouldn't have so many images of England fans trying to attack French police to use to disparage them.
They haven't, they've buried their heads in the sand - like you have.
The supporters of your country are plastered over every media outlet around for ongoing bouts of vandalism, hooliganism, and racism. You've destroyed property, fought police, racially abused plenty, put people in hospital, and brought a city to a standstill. And you're hoping I apologise?
What's wrong with you?
To be fair, the anti-fascist sentiment you describe had a lot to do with the Russian/Serb influence after the war in the bolded countries. Hardly surprising that independence and eruption of nationalism coincided with morons resorting to pure Nazi-style hate. The Enemy of my enemies and all...
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Balls, mate. You're better than this normally, but all you're doing here is indulging the bigotry Portly rightly called you out on and trying, unsuccessfully, to cloak it in a guise of bogus "objectivity". Every actual media outlet, rather than those your overheated imagination has hornswoggled you into "seeing", is placing the blame where it belongs, namely on the Russian ultras and some locals as well as the English morons, because those outlets have people there seeing what's actually happening instead of pandering to your personal prejudices.
"You've". Has he really? You're really not quitting with this sweeping attack on us, are you?
This really is try-hard bigoted junk and EVERYONE has called you out for it.
Imagine if we called "you" a pub bomber or something.
Err so you down under are immune from a drinking / fighting culture and everyone sits around in coffee shops comparing ristrettos? It must be so nice looking down on the world from your ivory tower. If you opened your eyes and visited any Aussie city on any saturday night you would see exactly the same anti social behaviour drunkedness and fighting, ffs there was fighting at the fucking TENNIS earlier this year.
Oh dear.
Neither are we though Woland. There's a minority of dickheads, just like we've seen carnage elsewhere from other nationalities. Ryan's taken it upon himself to repeatedly label "us" an embarrassment. I don't think anyone has defended the morons, have they? Some people have said that there are conflicting news reports, Ryan has said we're in headed company alongside racist Turkish ultras.
But they are dickheads and they do deserve singling out. They were there on Thursday causing shit and generally being an embarrassment two days before and right up until the Russians turned up. People moaning that no Russians got nicked... well they managed to distil their shit into a couple of ten minutes bursts, the English were chucking bottles for ages.
Fair enough if you're not defending them, but it does all seem a bit defensive in here.
Fair enough if you're not defending them, but it does all seem a bit defensive in here.
Anything that livens up tennis these days should be appreciated and encouraged
The Scots are really angry about something happened about 300-odd years ago; the Irish about something that happened about 400 years ago; the Welsh about something that happened about 700-odd years ago. The English need to pin their juvenile and aimless aggression on to something historical and get a bit of respect for it. Maybe the Roman Occupation.
400 years ago? You might want to read a few history books Macca.
Yes, they need "singling out". Ryan has spent the entire thread telling his English counterparts they're a disgrace. If it's shit terminology then fair enough, but he was called out for it earlier in thread and has carried on just to antagonise more.
Not all Brits are English, though.
I didn't want to list everything, but it sounds like you need to read another one or to history books.
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