And what exactly is that supposed to mean?
Why are English supporters the most pitiful in world football?
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I agree with Woland. And to some extent some of what Ryan said.
I was watching Sky Sports News the day after the first wave of violence. That melon Gary Cotteril was in some bar that the English fans had been fighting with the Marseille ultras. A flare had been lit in the doorway the night before. He was going through pains to say how it wasn't too bad, that there was no damage to any of the property and that it looked worse on camera. He then went up to interview the barmaid and said "We understand that the violence wasn't so bad last night, correct?" to which she replied "It was very, very bad." For the first couple of days, until the info about the well-trained Russian hooligans broke out, Sky Sports in particular was playing it down.
ITV on the night after the England game showed some of the violence earlier that day. They made a big song and dance about how the Russians were well organised and seeking out innocent English people to attack. They even singled out one particular Russian fan in green shorts that had the temerity to be in TWO places on the one day. But if you actually paid attention to the piece, the Russian fan didn't do anything. Didn't hit anyone, or attack anyone. He just happened to be in two places on that day where there was violence. Chances are he was a hooligan, but it was a desperate attempt by ITV to apportion blame away from the English. The daily mail ran with a headline that described the Russians as drunken thugs, the English as "fans".
There has been a lot of playing it down in the English media. We know what these In-Gur-Land fans are like. Well the minority anyway. They will be big, fat, boisterous men singing about how shit other countries are and there will be a few murmurings about foreigners and ISIS. This is going to attract attention from other people seeking violence. If the English didn't get absolutely twatted everywhere they went this time around, it wouldn't be as easy to paint them as the victims. There will be a vast majority there to just enjoy the game, but there will be a large number of English nobs, too.
I was watching Sky Sports News the day after the first wave of violence. That melon Gary Cotteril was in some bar that the English fans had been fighting with the Marseille ultras. A flare had been lit in the doorway the night before. He was going through pains to say how it wasn't too bad, that there was no damage to any of the property and that it looked worse on camera. He then went up to interview the barmaid and said "We understand that the violence wasn't so bad last night, correct?" to which she replied "It was very, very bad." For the first couple of days, until the info about the well-trained Russian hooligans broke out, Sky Sports in particular was playing it down.
ITV on the night after the England game showed some of the violence earlier that day. They made a big song and dance about how the Russians were well organised and seeking out innocent English people to attack. They even singled out one particular Russian fan in green shorts that had the temerity to be in TWO places on the one day. But if you actually paid attention to the piece, the Russian fan didn't do anything. Didn't hit anyone, or attack anyone. He just happened to be in two places on that day where there was violence. Chances are he was a hooligan, but it was a desperate attempt by ITV to apportion blame away from the English. The daily mail ran with a headline that described the Russians as drunken thugs, the English as "fans".
There has been a lot of playing it down in the English media. We know what these In-Gur-Land fans are like. Well the minority anyway. They will be big, fat, boisterous men singing about how shit other countries are and there will be a few murmurings about foreigners and ISIS. This is going to attract attention from other people seeking violence. If the English didn't get absolutely twatted everywhere they went this time around, it wouldn't be as easy to paint them as the victims. There will be a vast majority there to just enjoy the game, but there will be a large number of English nobs, too.
That's because all our proper hooligans have not been allowed to travel. Over 2,000 of them. Russia, on the other hand, actively encourage their hooligans, even giving them time off from their usual jobs in the army and police forces.
You seem quite pleased about the quality of Russian hooliganism and them beating up old men to near death. Quite odd.
Just as long as it's not the evil West or scummy English chavs being good hooligans, eh?
Mark are you saying that the arseholes who were at it last Thursday, as Woland says long before the Russians turned up, are not an embarrassment?
They are like the relative you have to invite to a wedding even though you know that after a few pints they are going to make a show of themselves and you.
Genuine English fans, who work hard, save up, and go to support their country are regularly having their trips spoiled by these people. I feel really sorry for them.
Fucking hell
He was taking the piss Brendan.
What? You've posted a whole load of images of battered English fans, and countless posts about Sports Direct chavs wanting aggro, and then seem rather gleeful about organised Russian lunatics beating people from your own country half to death.
Perhaps I've simply projected too much and that isn't what you think or mean.
Perhaps I've simply projected too much and that isn't what you think or mean.
For those determined to miss the point above, English (or Scouse) as well as Irish, NOBODY'S EXCUSING ENGLISH KNOBHEADS, OK? The point at issue is not that English yobboes have been involved in nasties out there. The point at issue is Ryan's bollocks allegation that it's exclusively, and always has been exclusively, the English contingent, which is 24-carat crapola.
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What should UEFA do ?
And Ukraine, Poland, Italy & France? All have 'ultras' involved in fighting, surely they should be kicked out too using that logic?
Did you read my posts? I haven't defended anyone in the slightest. I took offense to Ryan repeated "you're all a disgrace" stance.
I feel like I should draw a fucking picture in crayon.
Check who that would leave in England's group mate ... That's Rafa4pm's logic ... Not about ultras!
Not sure what is meant by that? 400 years ago was 1616. I'm no historian, but I have a decent knowledge of the history of Ireland and it's occupation and a lot of stuff happened between 1616 and 2016.
Brendan drew a stickman wearing a crown for Mario. Sometimes it just doesn't work.
Hahaha. Somehow I completely fucking missed that. Sorry rafa4pm!
Yep. The list thing, that bit, which I said I didn't want to do in a trivial post in a trivial forum.
They've started deporting Russians
I did what?
I'm asking for yours
Ego on you!
Oh fuck
Mr. Rodgers apparently sat talking with Balotelli for hours after he signed. It included drawing a stickman with a crown on it. It didn't really work.
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