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Who's to blame for our shitness?

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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38662.msg1043606#msg1043606 date=1264542245]
All of the shit players Benitez has given contracts to
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= Benitez
 
Combination of too many poor players and poor coaching.

We have no *style* or *class* whatsover in the midfield. The little we did have left for Madrid in the summer.
 
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=38662.msg1043599#msg1043599 date=1264542207]
DreamBeliever
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is the correct answer
 
I've been trying to stick up for Rafa this season. In the cold light of day, I've never really wanted to see him sacked and I guess I still have to say that I want to leave it to the end of the season before making my mind up.

That said, the buck stops with the manager. After six years in charge, we should be better than this.
 
Did GH have six years too?

No one can argue that Rafa hasn't been given a fair crack. I agree Keni, there's a massive part of me that feels so strongly about not sacking a manager mid-season but after performances like that, it's difficult to justify as it just doesn't seem like there's a way out of this run unless there is a drastic change.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38662.msg1043631#msg1043631 date=1264542566]
I've been trying to stick up for Rafa this season. In the cold light of day, I've never really wanted to see him sacked and I guess I still have to say that I want to leave it to the end of the season before making my mind up.

That said, the buck stops with the manager. After six years in charge, we should be better than this.
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One word, he said.

Rafa.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38662.msg1043631#msg1043631 date=1264542566]
I've been trying to stick up for Rafa this season. In the cold light of day, I've never really wanted to see him sacked and I guess I still have to say that I want to leave it to the end of the season before making my mind up.

That said, the buck stops with the manager. After six years in charge, we should be better than this.
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We don't practice attacking play. It's utterly unforgivable.

Benitez actually *hates* football.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=38662.msg1043652#msg1043652 date=1264542921]
Did GH have six years too?

No one can argue that Rafa hasn't been given a fair crack. I agree Keni, there's a massive part of me that feels so strongly about not sacking a manager mid-season but after performances like that, it's difficult to justify as it just doesn't seem like there's a way out of this run unless there is a drastic change.
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I agree with this. I'd be happy enough if they just let Carra pick the team.
 
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=38662.msg1043674#msg1043674 date=1264543551]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=38662.msg1043652#msg1043652 date=1264542921]
Did GH have six years too?

No one can argue that Rafa hasn't been given a fair crack. I agree Keni, there's a massive part of me that feels so strongly about not sacking a manager mid-season but after performances like that, it's difficult to justify as it just doesn't seem like there's a way out of this run unless there is a drastic change.
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I agree with this. I'd be happy enough if they just let Carra pick the team.
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I think I should pick the time Robinho.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=38662.msg1043678#msg1043678 date=1264543626]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=38662.msg1043674#msg1043674 date=1264543551]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=38662.msg1043652#msg1043652 date=1264542921]
Did GH have six years too?

No one can argue that Rafa hasn't been given a fair crack. I agree Keni, there's a massive part of me that feels so strongly about not sacking a manager mid-season but after performances like that, it's difficult to justify as it just doesn't seem like there's a way out of this run unless there is a drastic change.
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I agree with this. I'd be happy enough if they just let Carra pick the team.
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I think I should pick the time Robinho.
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Sure, when should they do it?
 
For me, the really big difference from last season, is how we approach a game.

Last season, and the seasons before that, we took controll of the games, passed the ball around, crisp sharpe passing and then it finally opened them up. We didn't want them to have the ball, and always had most of the possesion.

This season, we can't string two passes together, give them ball away countless of times and hoof it at every chance.
For some reason, we can't use our central midfielders and we expect Gerrard and Torres to flick the ball in every move. Poor movement, bad decision making and a lack of belief in what we're actually doing.

Do we really miss Xabi that much? I don't know, but replacing him with a hopeless Brazilian has resulted in us losing the midfield domination we once had, and instead look like an unbalanced team.

Not seeing that the Lucas/Mascher combo doesn't work, is what really gets on my tits.

It comes down to the manager for me. He picks the team week in week out. Sure, the players haven't shown much heart in some games, but even that points in his direction. These players need a leader that can get the fire going in the dressing room, not a manager that doesn't talk because he's annoyed. We need someone to give them a bollocking, break some furniture and scream abuse once in a while.

Rafa sadly isn't a manager that can turn these things around, we need a change.
 
Perhaps the midfield pairing of Lucas and Masher. Last season we put up with it for the odd game and we all knew it wasn't working.
Alonso left and now we're resigned to a midfield duo of Lucas and Masher. Need to freshen it up.

Oh that and we need pacy confident players.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=38662.msg1043702#msg1043702 date=1264544676]
For me, the really big difference from last season, is how we approach a game.

Last season, and the seasons before that, we took controll of the games, passed the ball around, crisp sharpe passing and then it finally opened them up. We didn't want them to have the ball, and always had most of the possesion.

This season, we can't string two passes together, give them ball away countless of times and hoof it at every chance.
For some reason, we can't use our central midfielders and we expect Gerrard and Torres to flick the ball in every move. Poor movement, bad decision making and a lack of belief in what we're actually doing.

Do we really miss Xabi that much? I don't know, but replacing him with a hopeless Brazilian has resulted in us losing the midfield domination we once had, and instead look like an unbalanced team.

Not seeing that the Lucas/Mascher combo doesn't work, is what really gets on my tits.

It comes down to the manager for me. He picks the team week in week out. Sure, the players haven't shown much heart in some games, but even that points in his direction. These players need a leader that can get the fire going in the dressing room, not a manager that doesn't talk because he's annoyed. We need someone to give them a bollocking, break some furniture and scream abuse once in a while.

Rafa sadly isn't a manager that can turn these things around, we need a change.
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Good post.

Please change your sig - it hurts.
 
Persistantly playing two defensive midfielders against bottom end teams like wolves is also unforgivable.
 
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=38662.msg1043599#msg1043599 date=1264542207]
DreamBeliever
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Ha ha ha ha.

The correct answer is Rafa

Its been 6 years and the team is almost 100% his and is utterly shit.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38662.msg1043629#msg1043629 date=1264542530]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=38662.msg1043599#msg1043599 date=1264542207]
DreamBeliever
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is the correct answer
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Ha ha.
Mother f*ckers!
 
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