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Poll Who should the 2018 & 2022 World Cups be awarded to ?

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Which Country Would You Choose for the 2018 World Cup ?


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[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=43025.msg1228251#msg1228251 date=1291382340]
pathetic stuff.... really is..

the decision of Qatar makes no sense at all.


Australia has some excellent infestructure and is more than capable of hosting large events.. instead.. it goes to a country that has several families of billionaires while the rest of the country lives off rice and licking the underside of stones.
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more fun trivia: apparently Qatar is smaller than the Falkland Islands.

it's beyond a joke.
 
Moyes said: "I also have a Russian player, Diniyar Bilyaletdinov, and I spoke to him about it.

He said "England have had a World Cup before – Russia haven't. Why should we not be entitled to it?' I think you have to look at the argument from the other side.

"And I don't think Prime Ministers or presidents should be going to this sort of thing.

"I think it is a football situation.
Obviously it needs government backing but I don't think you need them there at the final draw."
 
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=43025.msg1228126#msg1228126 date=1291341006]
The thing I can't get about quatar is that if all the stadiums are within 30kms of each other and the state us the size if a large city then how the fuck do they plan on controlling the crowds. It's a nightmare. 2 weeks of potential riots.
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It will be 40+C in the shade. People will be too fucking drained to riot.
 
So to recap. Qatar!

Small space, lots of fans from Europe, and potentially USA and even Israel pushed in to special drinking zones in 40 degree heat.

In the middle east.

Some nutter is sure to see this as a perfect opportunity to be set up with some virgins by strapping a pound of Semtex to their chest and praising Alan.

All a load of cock
 
From Guardian article:

In May this year, Amnesty International published their summary of concerns in relation to Qatar. Their report, which covers the period January to December 2009 but is still regarded as current, claims women face discrimination and violence and says hundreds of people continued to be arbitrarily deprived of their nationality.The report also details how at least 18 people, mostly foreign nationals, were sentenced to flogging of between 40 and 100 lashes for offences related to "illicit sexual relations" or alcohol consumption.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/02/world-cup-2022-qatar-winning-bid
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43025.msg1228445#msg1228445 date=1291400188]
'Some cracking stadiums to stone women in'

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Is that the Brendan seal of approval?
 
Anybody see that Zizou made $15m yesterday, simply for representing Qutar in their official bid..?

He would have gotten $3m just for turning up to 'support' their bid, but that $3m turned into $15m because they won it.
 
[quote author=iseeredpeople link=topic=43025.msg1228435#msg1228435 date=1291397798]
From Guardian article:

In May this year, Amnesty International published their summary of concerns in relation to Qatar. Their report, which covers the period January to December 2009 but is still regarded as current, claims women face discrimination and violence and says hundreds of people continued to be arbitrarily deprived of their nationality.The report also details how at least 18 people, mostly foreign nationals, were sentenced to flogging of between 40 and 100 lashes for offences related to "illicit sexual relations" or alcohol consumption.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/02/world-cup-2022-qatar-winning-bid
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To be fair on this point, neither Aus nor the US have stellar human rights records either. We've been slammed, and rightly so, by Amnesty on several occasions in recent years.
 
I don't know why they went through the farce of an open bid. Blatter's politicking meant that it was always going to go somewhere it hadn't been before. Why not just say "the 2018 WC is going to Eastern Europe, Asia or the Middle East" and invite bids from countries in those regions.

I don't mind that as policy if the countries where football is an integral part of life are also given an opportunity to host - such as 2022 being put aside for countries that have supported the game (and FIFA) for decades.
 
this report from the Mirror, while it probably won't come true, nicely underlines the absurdity of the whole thing:

FIFA IS set for a head-on confrontation with Europe's big clubs as it emerged the 2022 World Cup could be played in JANUARY.

With the Qatari summer guaranteeing temperatures of 50 degrees plus in the desert, proposals are already being floated that could see the tournament moved to the winter.

While Qatar has promised 12 spectacular and air-conditioned stadia will be built, at a cost of billions, for the first World Cup in the Middle East, the problems of training facilities has brought up the prospect of a date switch.

FIFA's own technical report cited the potential danger to players if they tried to perform under the searing desert sun.

With a 32-team tournament, the idea of the competing nations merely utilising the stadium facilities is impossible for scheduling reasons, with up to four matches being played each day and conflicting demands for the best training time slots.

But in January, temperatures "dip" to a more modest average high of 22 degrees Celsius, dropping to 12 or 13 degrees C at night, with even the prospect of some modest rainfall, which would allow training to take place outdoors.

A FIFA source said: "We have always held our tournaments in the summer months before but we must think about what is best for the players."

And a move to a winter tournament in 2022 risks all-out war from the big clubs.

While Germany does have a long winter break, the rests in Spain and Italy are much shorter, while of course the Premier League plays throughout the whole winter.

Major leagues will be outraged at being disrupted for the World Cup, especially as FIFA would be likely to impose a minimum two-week preparation period for national sides ahead of the tournament.

That could lead to huge uproar and indignation, matching that as the awards of the 2018 World Cup to Russia and the subsequent tournament to the 113th-ranked nation in world football, half the size of Wales and which has never qualified for the Finals.
 
[size=13pt]Qatar has nothing to do with football, says Effenberg[/size]

Former Germany international midfielder Stefan Effenberg has slammed the decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, saying the Gulf state "has nothing to do with football"

Effenberg, famed for his outspoken views during two stints at Bayern Munich, told Sky television that the World Cup should "always be awarded to countries with a footballing tradition, who live for football and love (the sport)".

"Qatar has nothing to do with football," he added. "It's an absolutely terrible decision. The conditions are catastrophic. I can't explain it."

The executive committee of world football's governing body FIFA awarded the 2022 World Cup to Qatar at a summit in Zurich, Switzerland last week.

Effenberg, who played for Bayern between 1990 and 1992 and then between 1998 and 2002, retired from football in 2004 after having a short stint with Qatari side Al-Arabi and has since been working as a TV pundit.

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Can't think of any of the countries who were bidding for 2022 that meet your criteria, Effenberg.

Seems like Qatari money was good enough for you when you played for Al Arabi, now you criticise since you're no longer sucking the Qatari mango...
 
“To be honest, I was surprised by all the English complaining after the defeat. England, of all people, the motherland of fair play ideas. Now some of them are showing themselves to be bad losers. You can’t come afterwards and say so and so promised to vote for England. The results are known. The outcome came out clearly. I really sense in some reactions a bit of the arrogance of the western world of Christian background. Some simply can’t bear it if others get a chance for a change. What can be wrong if we start football in regions where this sport demonstrates a potential which goes far beyond sport? It’s my philosophy to drive forward the expansion of football. The next regions that we need to conquer would be China and India. Football has become a political matter. Heads of state court me. Football has become a monster, but it’s a positive monster.â€
Sepp Blatter
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=43025.msg1230903#msg1230903 date=1291890297]
“To be honest, I was surprised by all the English complaining after the defeat. England, of all people, the motherland of fair play ideas. Now some of them are showing themselves to be bad losers. You can’t come afterwards and say so and so promised to vote for England. The results are known. The outcome came out clearly. I really sense in some reactions a bit of the arrogance of the western world of Christian background. Some simply can’t bear it if others get a chance for a change. What can be wrong if we start football in regions where this sport demonstrates a potential which goes far beyond sport? It’s my philosophy to drive forward the expansion of football. The next regions that we need to conquer would be China and India. Football has become a political matter. Heads of state court me. Football has become a monster, but it’s a positive monster.â€
Sepp Blatter
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When asked who his favourite Qatar player was, Mr Blatter replied " Eric Clapton "
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=43025.msg1230903#msg1230903 date=1291890297]
“To be honest, I was surprised by all the English complaining after the defeat. England, of all people, the motherland of fair play ideas. Now some of them are showing themselves to be bad losers. You can’t come afterwards and say so and so promised to vote for England. The results are known. The outcome came out clearly. I really sense in some reactions a bit of the arrogance of the western world of Christian background. Some simply can’t bear it if others get a chance for a change. What can be wrong if we start football in regions where this sport demonstrates a potential which goes far beyond sport? It’s my philosophy to drive forward the expansion of football. The next regions that we need to conquer would be China and India. Football has become a political matter. Heads of state court me. Football has become a monster, but it’s a positive monster.â€
Sepp Blatter
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What a pile of wank.
 
Blatter and co will be under much more scrutiny than ever before. The British media will dig and dig and dig.

regards
 
Some guy was on SSN yesterday saying the Olympic committee are also un-democratic and just as corrupt, but no one seemed to care then.
 
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