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We just have to buy Gary Cahill

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Based on the fact the Carragher is the leader/organizer of our defense and without him it doesn't function as well, I think we need to be recruiting a centre back with those qualities, as well as being a top defender, to be his eventual replacement.

I think we need more than one top centre half to be bought, before we should countenance the dropping of Carra.
 
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The point I think is that Agger wil never have the ball at his feet.

Have to be on the pitch for that 🙁
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got ya!
 
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Based on the fact the Carragher is the leader/organizer of our defense and without him it doesn't function as well, I think we need to be recruiting a centre back with those qualities, as well as being a top defender, to be his eventual replacement.

I think we need more than one top centre half to be bought, before we should countenance the dropping of Carra.
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That's exactly what Cahill does at Bolton. So if he's bought he is IMO Carra's replacement.
 
MANCHESTER CITY are lining up a £15million bid for Gary Cahill. The Bolton defender has been a long-term target for a number of top clubs including Manchester United, Tottenham and Arsenal.

But City believe they can capitalise on boss Owen Coyle's interest in Shaun Wright- Phillips last January by using him as a makeweight in the deal.

Cahill, 25, has a year left on his contract from this summer and is believed to have a £15m release clause in the agreement.

Bolton are resigned to losing their star player and may decide to do business with City as it would mean they could get Wright-Phillips for no outlay.

The Eastlands hierarchy want the former England international, who will be 30 in October, off the wage bill because his contract is worth £80,000 a week.

City seem keen to buy British this summer and still plan to follow up their interest in Arsenal's Jack Wilshere, but Cahill will solve problems in defence.

They fear Kolo Toure will miss next season if, as expected, he is hit with a two-year ban for failing a drugs test in March.

That means Roberto Mancini, or whoever is in charge next season, will be without a natural defensive partner for Vincent Kompany.

The City boss is unconvinced by Joleon Lescott and his only other option is to move Jerome Boateng to centre-back, but the German international has suffered with injuries this season.
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Bolton's Cahill close to Anfield switch with Ngog going the other way
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Kenny Dalglish is closing in on a deal to bring Bolton defender Gary Cahill to Anfield.
The Liverpool boss has spent all summer chasing the defender and is now close to offering a player-plus-cash deal for Cahill and beat title rivals Arsenal to the signing in the process.
Dalglish is set to offer £10million plus striker David Ngog and young hitman Raheem Sterling, 16, on loan to clinch Cahill the deal.


WHAT?
 
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Bolton's Cahill close to Anfield switch with Ngog going the other way
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Kenny Dalglish is closing in on a deal to bring Bolton defender Gary Cahill to Anfield.
The Liverpool boss has spent all summer chasing the defender and is now close to offering a player-plus-cash deal for Cahill and beat title rivals Arsenal to the signing in the process.
Dalglish is set to offer £10million plus striker David Ngog and young hitman Raheem Sterling, 16, on loan to clinch Cahill the deal.


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[/quote]The reports origins are with the shitrag, Modo so I wouldn't get too excited if I were you.
 
Sterling has already tweeted that he's not going anywhere on loan & cant until he's 17 (PL rules).

Maybe in Jan cos he's 17 in Dec.
 
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Sterling has already tweeted that he's not going anywhere on loan & cant until he's 17 (PL rules).

Maybe in Jan cos he's 17 in Dec.
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Playing on-loan at Premier League team isn't that bad but like you said he isn't 17 yet.
But I'd rather we played him to be honest.
 
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44298.msg1381856#msg1381856 date=1313693352]
Sterling has already tweeted that he's not going anywhere on loan & cant until he's 17 (PL rules).

Maybe in Jan cos he's 17 in Dec.
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Playing on-loan at Premier League team isn't that bad but like you said he isn't 17 yet.
But I'd rather we played him to be honest.
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I wouldnt get too worried if Raheem went to Bolton in January Modo. I dont think he'll break into our side this year and Coyle would be more likely to blood him. Didn't do wilshere or sturridge any harm up there either 😉
 
Anyone else expecting Cahill to join this week?
I don't see him staying in Bolton past September. They need the cash.

Somehow I believe that already is agreement in place and Bolton are only delaying in order to get as much out Cahill as possible.
 
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Anyone else expecting Cahill to join this week?
I don't see him staying in Bolton past September. They need the cash.

Somehow I believe that already is agreement in place and Bolton are only delaying in order to get as much out Cahill as possible.
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with skrtel fit again and on the bench we may see no CB come in.
 
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Anyone else expecting Cahill to join this week?
I don't see him staying in Bolton past September. They need the cash.

Somehow I believe that already is agreement in place and Bolton are only delaying in order to get as much out Cahill as possible.
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with skrtel fit again and on the bench we may see no CB come in.
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So what was the whole Jones thing about? Same defenders were still around then.
it's about finding Carra's replacement.
Just get rid off Kyrgiakos and Wilson.
 
People seem quite quick to write Wilson off. Maybe send him on loan to Bolton as part of a Cahill deal? We shouldn't give up on him yet.
 
with 1 week to go bolton will definately get 'twitchy' but I think arsenal will be deperate and harry is an ebay sniper.
 
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People seem quite quick to write Wilson off. Maybe send him on loan to Bolton as part of a Cahill deal? We shouldn't give up on him yet.
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No but I really don't see a future for him at this club if we get Cahill. We also have Wisdom on his way up from the youth team and he's one the most promising CB's in his age group in the country.
Hell, I don't mind letting Wilson go on loan.
 
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Whenever ive seen wisdom and coady together they'velooked fantastic. It seems coady might be pushed further forward though.
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coady may he his chance midweek.
 
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Whenever ive seen wisdom and coady together they'velooked fantastic. It seems coady might be pushed further forward though.
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Yup DM, is where he should be playing.
I think Spearing will play, Coady might be on the bench.
 
Coyle:

"We will need to wait and see what the next few weeks holds before the transfer window closes. It would not be ideal for me to lose Gary, but I have always said, I need to be fair to Gary," said the Bolton boss.

"Any player wants to play at the highest level, to play the best teams, and there is nothing wrong with that.

"I have said to Gary he can improve here with Bolton, and he has improved. In the 18 months I have worked with him, Gary has become an integral part of the England squad because of his performances and has improved no end.

"There is no doubt he has taken his game to another level, but that was always going to happen with his age as well.

"Hopefully with the platform we can give him and encouragement as a staff we can help him on his way to a fantastic career."

Coyle added: "I am loathed to say this because he is my player, but if I was at one of those elite clubs, then Gary Cahill would be the first name on my shopping list."

"There has been no offer. He is my player and I have to make sure he delivers in each game," said Coyle.

"As a manager, I want the best players available for me, but I have also got to be fair to Gary Cahill as well. If it is the right thing for Gary and the football club, then that is something we have to look at. It needs to be the right business for everybody involved.

"We are not one of the elite clubs who can be holding onto players, we have always been known as a selling club and that is not going to change." 😱 😱 😱 WHAT??

Coyle added: "There have not been any concrete bids, but as people get closer to the end of the window, and they think, 'He is the right one for me', then I don't know. You will have to ask the other managers."


Interpretation: [size=18pt]"I'm desperate to sell"[/size]

It reads like a farewell speech. He's definitely leaving.
 
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Wouldn't arsenal be the favourites for him though?
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Ideally yes. But we just beat them and their best players have left or are leaving, why would he want to join them?

Also, he lives in the north west, won't even have to relocate in order to join us.
 
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Wouldn't arsenal be the favourites for him though?
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Ideally yes. But we just beat them and their best players have left or are leaving, why would he want to join them?

Also, he lives in the north west, won't even have to relocate in order to join us.
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if they do the business next week, CL football*


* with all due respect to oncy's marvelous sans CL football list
 
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Whenever ive seen wisdom and coady together they'velooked fantastic. It seems coady might be pushed further forward though.
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Yup DM, is where he should be playing.
I think Spearing will play, Coady might be on the bench.

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i'm not totally convinced about that. i think coady might end up as a centre half after all: i'm not sure he's technically sound enough to play midfield for a top european club, whereas what he's best at - leadership and organisation - are ideally suited to central defence. he's certainly no gerrarg, but he could yet be another carragher.
 
basically arsenal and definately spurs are waiting till the final days of the transfer window when bolton will accept anything they offer. are we going to be in the mix? doubt it
 
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