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His playing style reminds me so much of John Terry.
He has a classier style than Terry, seems a fair bit less aggressive and I doubt we’ll see him blocking shots 2cm off the ground with a diving head, nor will he wear a full kit on match days where he doesn’t play. And he’s far prettier.
I guess I see it from the point that he organizes a defence and shows leadership. But loath the fact you mention the dickhead’s name together with our man.
 
They both just look so in control when playing. Commanding, confident, assured, and in control. Good off both feet - able to ping it when needed, and dominant in the air. Also that nice nature of unflappability - they're desperate to win, and will assault any teammate that compromises on that, but not so much that they play in a panicked fashion. Neither are that quick in my view, but they play a step head so will rarely get caught out.

I know any comparisons to Terry are always fraught with danger given he's an immense fucking cock, but he's one of the best centre backs of my generation, so being likened to him is no bad thing.
 
They both just look so in control when playing. Commanding, confident, assured, and in control. Good off both feet - able to ping it when needed, and dominant in the air. Also that nice nature of unflappability - they're desperate to win, and will assault any teammate that compromises on that, but not so much that they play in a panicked fashion. Neither are that quick in my view, but they play a step head so will rarely get caught out.

I know any comparisons to Terry are always fraught with danger given he's an immense fucking cock, but he's one of the best centre backs of my generation, so being likened to him is no bad thing.

VVD is very quick and a much better passer.
 
I get the comparison, Terry at his best was a tremendously proactive centre back. By that I mean he wasnt sitting back waiting to be called upon to defend he set put to win the ball at every opportunity. He didnt have the pass or the passing range of Van Dijk but he was very influential in the opposition half because he was always making himself available and always willing to carry the ball into space when the chance presented itself.
 
They both just look so in control when playing. Commanding, confident, assured, and in control. Good off both feet - able to ping it when needed, and dominant in the air. Also that nice nature of unflappability - they're desperate to win, and will assault any teammate that compromises on that, but not so much that they play in a panicked fashion. Neither are that quick in my view, but they play a step head so will rarely get caught out.

I know any comparisons to Terry are always fraught with danger given he's an immense fucking cock, but he's one of the best centre backs of my generation, so being likened to him is no bad thing.
If van Dijk turns out anything like Terry ability wise, I'll be very happy
 
I get the comparison, Terry at his best was a tremendously proactive centre back. By that I mean he wasnt sitting back waiting to be called upon to defend he set put to win the ball at every opportunity. He didnt have the pass or the passing range of Van Dijk but he was very influential in the opposition half because he was always making himself available and always willing to carry the ball into space when the chance presented itself.

Virgil is more mobile and pacy, despite being bigger than Terry, but I wouldn't say he was a better passer. John Terry was very good on the ball.
 
Virgil is more mobile and pacy, despite being bigger than Terry, but I wouldn't say he was a better passer. John Terry was very good on the ball.

Big time. Terry was superb off both feet, and far better on his weaker foot than Van Dijk seems to be.
 
Terry was a midfield player when he originally signed youth forms for Chelsea, and I quite often thought one could see that in what he was doing when Chelsea were on the front foot. I don't particularly enjoy saying so, but he was more than just a stopper and could definitely play.

That said, his lack of pace was a major drawback and would have been exposed a lot more without the likes of Carvalho alongside him and Makelele in front of him (hence playing for England he was a shadow of the player he usually was in the league). I don't think he'd have performed anywhere near as well in a Klopp team.
 
Terry was a midfield player when he originally signed youth forms for Chelsea, and I quite often thought one could see that in what he was doing when Chelsea were on the front foot. I don't particularly enjoy saying so, but he was more than just a stopper and could definitely play.

That said, his lack of pace was a major drawback and would have been exposed a lot more without the likes of Carvalho alongside him and Makelele in front of him (hence playing for England he was a shadow of the player he usually was in the league). I don't think he'd have performed anywhere near as well in a Klopp team.

If John Terry can't perform well in your team, there's something wrong with your team.
 
Terry was a midfield player when he originally signed youth forms for Chelsea, and I quite often thought one could see that in what he was doing when Chelsea were on the front foot. I don't particularly enjoy saying so, but he was more than just a stopper and could definitely play.

That said, his lack of pace was a major drawback and would have been exposed a lot more without the likes of Carvalho alongside him and Makelele in front of him (hence playing for England he was a shadow of the player he usually was in the league). I don't think he'd have performed anywhere near as well in a Klopp team.

Not to mention Gallas and Ashley Coles pace
 
You are saying Ross isn't a fan?

Am.. not a clue.

I presume Ross think VVD is a good player. I think his reservations were value for money related. i.e. the inflated fee, his previous injury record etc. I think it's fair to have those reservations and still rate VVD. You'd have to ask Ross.
 
Yep, Terry was one of the best in the league for nearly a decade with Chelsea, the fucking prick.

Sorry, couldn't pay him a compliment without throwing some shade his way.

Perfectly understandable, given he's one of the most hateful, horrible cunts to ever play football.
 
VVD and Terry also have different character traits. Especially height wise VVD appears to me as a more composed and stylish version Japp Stam. Like Japp Stam its difficult to win headers against VVD he's a beast! And maybe it is my anti Chelsea bias but John Terry though comes accross as a chav version of Bobby Moore lol. Not that his Chavy impression of Bobby Moore stopped him from being very successful though.
 
You guys give too much credit to Terry - he was a fucking average player by all accounts but clever enough to use his limited abilities to survive in this game. The best defenders in my opinion do not look like an underdog who has played against some super team after every game. Terry nearly always fucking had that look - it was sheer effort on his part to prolong his stay at the top level. He knew - that a few mistakes and he would be slowly pushed out of Chelsea - many players except the very talented ones who could hold their own - were scared of Mourinho - who I think loves players that love to play for him. Hence his love in with Terry/Lampard as they constantly greased his arse.
 
You guys give too much credit to Terry - he was a fucking average player by all accounts but clever enough to use his limited abilities to survive in this game. The best defenders in my opinion do not look like an underdog who has played against some super team after every game. Terry nearly always fucking had that look - it was sheer effort on his part to prolong his stay at the top level. He knew - that a few mistakes and he would be slowly pushed out of Chelsea - many players except the very talented ones who could hold their own - were scared of Mourinho - who I think loves players that love to play for him. Hence his love in with Terry/Lampard as they constantly greased his arse.

in other words he gave 100% every game and almost never lost focus. Essentially, a great defender. Not sure what kind of CB you're looking for....
 
in other words he gave 100% every game and almost never lost focus. Essentially, a great defender. Not sure what kind of CB you're looking for....
No..you just dont get it...there are very talented defenders who have the skills and all and go onto prove themselves at international level and then there are the great club survivors. Terry was the later.
 
You guys give too much credit to Terry - he was a fucking average player by all accounts but clever enough to use his limited abilities to survive in this game. The best defenders in my opinion do not look like an underdog who has played against some super team after every game. Terry nearly always fucking had that look - it was sheer effort on his part to prolong his stay at the top level. He knew - that a few mistakes and he would be slowly pushed out of Chelsea - many players except the very talented ones who could hold their own - were scared of Mourinho - who I think loves players that love to play for him. Hence his love in with Terry/Lampard as they constantly greased his arse.

What a load of fucking shit.
 
No..you just dont get it...there are very talented defenders who have the skills and all and go onto prove themselves at international level and then there are the great club survivors. Terry was the later.

Terry was a great defender for England and would have been a great captain as he started to show before the racist thing occurred....

I remember several times he pulled us out of the shit.

That's even before you look at his influence on Chelsea, winning several leagues and European trophies as captain...

Hardly average....
 
You guys give too much credit to Terry - he was a fucking average player by all accounts but clever enough to use his limited abilities to survive in this game. The best defenders in my opinion do not look like an underdog who has played against some super team after every game. Terry nearly always fucking had that look - it was sheer effort on his part to prolong his stay at the top level. He knew - that a few mistakes and he would be slowly pushed out of Chelsea - many players except the very talented ones who could hold their own - were scared of Mourinho - who I think loves players that love to play for him. Hence his love in with Terry/Lampard as they constantly greased his arse.

Haha. So no room for Terry in that imaginary vigina I reckon!!
 
Terry was a great defender for England and would have been a great captain as he started to show before the racist thing occurred....

I remember several times he pulled us out of the shit.

That's even before you look at his influence on Chelsea, winning several leagues and European trophies as captain...

Hardly average....
Pulled us out of shit ? What against San Marino or some shit like that..or the euro cup final for Chelsea where he does not play. Even Mourinho and Carlos plus their orher non caretaker managers have had to consistently buy a more mobile faster modern day defenders around him to compensate. Plus Mourinho employing defensive tactics also helped him.

Under mourinho by far the best defender to play for that Chelsea team was Ricardo Carlvalho who i regarded as one of the best defenders in the PL.

No ... sorry ...once the likes of ryan and manwithnoname take of their delusional myths out Terry out of their heads they will realize he was as good as Klavan of today in terms of talent but probably less talented with the ball. Its a load of English bravado shit driving many of the emotions. Also just to be clear i am not driven by Terrys bad boy racist character that some on here have mentioned as I know nothing about that plus he was cleared on that issue if i recall.
 
That's utter rubbish. I don't like the man any more than you do, and his lack of pace required the team around him to be set up in a particular way, but in such a setting he was very good indeed. He'd hardly have been a centrepiece of Chelsea's rise to prominence otherwise.
 
Terry was a great defender for England and would have been a great captain as he started to show before the racist thing occurred....

I remember several times he pulled us out of the shit.

That's even before you look at his influence on Chelsea, winning several leagues and European trophies as captain...

Hardly average....

Terry was average at best for England. They were never set up to accommodate his slowness and he was exposed for lack of pace far too often at international level. Club football is another matter, and anyone who can't or won't recognise how good he was for Chelsea needs their head examined.
 
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