Hendo!!! Maybe my fave player in the current squad. Not afraid to bollock anyone and also leads by example.
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Going with Lovren. I can see Hendo going through a difficult patch and having to compete with Caan, allen, coutino and sterling for a central position. Lovren is pretty much untouchable.
Henderson
What our 4th choice defender? Great thinking there fella....
It's a mostly ceremonial role anyways. I'd opt for experience in that role every time.
If Hendo continued to produce in a year's time when Kolo leaves, he can be Vice Captain.
Not sure what the rush is to force a formal leadership role onto Hendo. Just leaves the potential that he could unfairly be forced into the squad of the time comes that we have legitimate competition at CM, which damages the squad as a whole.
Henderson. He's matured, he leads by example and at City I watched him passionately bawl out Lambert for missing that second chance.
He believed we could pull it back. He's turning into a great player and influence for is.
He believed we could pull it back. He's turning into a great player and influence for is.
You seem at odds with yourself. You trivialise the role in one breath and then talk about forcing leadership onto him in the next.
Besides, I think you underestimate the effect that rewarding someone with responsibility can have on their performances. Henderson struggled with his confidence when he first arrived, but the longer he's been here the more his confidence has grown. So much so that he has taken on a leadership role quite organically. Giving Henderson the vice-captaincy at this point would simply affirm his standing at the club, and give him the recognition he deserves. Given how he has grown in stature up to now, I think we have every reason to believe that it would have a positive effect on his game. As for forcing him into the squad - he featured in every match last year up until his red card, and I don't think anyone could argue that he wasn't sorely missed in the proceeding three games. He's about as certain to start our games as anyone, and the most likely to finish them.
Fucking Kolo indeed.
It's simply an year too early for me. You have four players in Hendo, Sturridge, Sakho, and Lovren who in a years time will likely be the frontrunners to follow Gerrard. And of those players, Hendo is probably the least secure here if he hits a rough patch or Emre Can progresses. I just don't know what the hurry is to force Hendo in, and for the time being I'd prefer our more experienced senior players to be in leadership roles before we have a concrete and clearly defined future.
By the way, can't having an extra responsibility make a player like Hendo who had just discovered his confidence overthink all of his play and ultimately hinder it? That's a risk that might be worth thinking about.
I think losing Hendo for the last three matches wasn't anywhere near as significant as people keep making it out to be. We played at roughly the same level for most of last season, but lucky or favorable results helped people overlook times when we played very poorly. We really only snotted the big teams minus City and Chelsea, and often eeked by the minnows.
We lost to Chelsea because Gerrard slipped in a match we were content to draw. Not blaming Gerrard here, shit happens, but from that point on we had to chase the game and Chelsea could sit even deeper.
And we drew Crystal Palace because we can't defend, and because all that good luck we had earlier finally caught up to us. That had nothing to do with Hendo missing out.
Nail on head interface achieved. As per.
When Ryan eulogised you in the Best Posters thread, this post was what he was talking about. Bang on.
I'd be all for this, but in the case of Gerrard getting subbed, he'd need help getting the armband on.
Defo Hendo
When he scores as captain one day he's gonna go off the charts mental
When he scores as captain one day he's gonna go off the charts mental
Henderson can have the armband after Gerrard steps down next season. When his gait eventually proves too much for his career at the top at about 29, he can then leave a legend here, pass the captaincy to Rossiter, and go on to captain his boyhood club Sunderland and retire as a legend there as well.
Hendo was my fav till u reminded me of the gamboling...
Henderson, he's totally in tune with the philosophy of the club and the other players. He reads the game and the playing style very well, and giving him the responsibility of vice captain will elevate his confidence to a level which will bring out only the best, in himself and others around him.
http://www.espnfc.us/club/liverpool...nderson-should-be-liverpools-new-vice-captain
Good article from Usher on why it would be a shock for anyone but Hendo to be named.
Great about how he protected both Raheem and Sterling at England's presser.
Good article from Usher on why it would be a shock for anyone but Hendo to be named.
Great about how he protected both Raheem and Sterling at England's presser.
Does a team actually NEED a vice-captain? I suppose you do if the captain doesn't start the game, but on those occasions I don't see why you can't just pick the team and then tell one of them they can be captain for the game. It's not even as though the vice-captain is the next captain in waiting - they're usually not - so there's not even any learning curve to encourage. Personally I just wouldn't bother.
Yep. I do this every Sunday with the u11 team I coach.
Let them all have a turn [emoji6]
Bollocks. Hendo is only going to get better and he'll be more untouchable than ever.
Just one of those motivational / recognition things that work on the younger guys who haven't really become pragmatic, critical or cynical like us with age. It probably feels like being told that you're next in line to succeed the throne - not really the most glorious thing, but at least you think you're being recognized as the next best thing in something. 😉
Yes, I accept that, but the reality with these things is that the vice captain is usually a player who is expected to be a regular, like the captain, so when the captain gets rested (say for a league cup game), so too does the vice captain, which results in a third player acting as captain, and then it gets a bit like Engerlund where (after loads of fuss about how special the position is) the armband gets tossed around during a game like pass the parcel.
Reasons why I don't want Hendo as captain:
1. I don't see Hendo as a leader. Yes he captained the England U21s, it's not the same thing as Liverpool. Fuck, Wisdom was captain of the U21s.
2. He has confidence issues. I'm not questioning his work ethic, I'm talking about how it took him two years to hold on to the ball for more than 10 seconds in a game.
3. He's first and foremost a Sunderland fan.
Who do I want as the new captain? Not sure. Seems to me that it's between Lovren and Skrtel.
1. I don't see Hendo as a leader. Yes he captained the England U21s, it's not the same thing as Liverpool. Fuck, Wisdom was captain of the U21s.
2. He has confidence issues. I'm not questioning his work ethic, I'm talking about how it took him two years to hold on to the ball for more than 10 seconds in a game.
3. He's first and foremost a Sunderland fan.
Who do I want as the new captain? Not sure. Seems to me that it's between Lovren and Skrtel.
1. So was Carragher. If Hendo hadn't ever been captain you'd have used that against him, and because he hHAS been captain of course you decide to use THAT against him. Ridiculous.
2. Don't talk nonsense. Confidence issues my arse. And as players in Rodgers (and Wenger) teams are encouraged to release the ball in under ten seconds, that's not actually a problem, you mad twat.
3. Grow up.
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