I think his tactics have left a lot to be desired tbh. What the fuck was he doing with Meireles today?
Uncle Roy
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I shouldn't be surprised, I've seen enough of roy's fulham but I thought he'd approach games differently with better players. obviously not.
Meireles did look clueless today. If you are going to play any CM off Torres, if must be Gerrard.
The prob we have struggled in CM prior to now is that when you had Lucas and Poulsen, neither of them can pass forwards. However, Meireles fixes that.
However, Cole was way too quiet today. Add that to an out of sorts Torres, and how can you expect to go out and take on the scum at Old Trafford.
The prob we have struggled in CM prior to now is that when you had Lucas and Poulsen, neither of them can pass forwards. However, Meireles fixes that.
However, Cole was way too quiet today. Add that to an out of sorts Torres, and how can you expect to go out and take on the scum at Old Trafford.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41948.msg1177520#msg1177520 date=1284907445]
I feel more confident now, than I did under Benitez.
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really? - I mean, really? What have you seen in our on the field performances to believe that? I'm asking because I'd like to see it!
I feel more confident now, than I did under Benitez.
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really? - I mean, really? What have you seen in our on the field performances to believe that? I'm asking because I'd like to see it!
Look at it this way yeah.
This is an old manager on the verge of retirement, who has managed mediocre teams around the globe, all battle-weary and accustomed to defeats, failures and unmet expectations. The best he's done is mediocrity.
I try to put myself in Uncle Roy's shoes and wonder what would my mentality be ?
Well, I'd probably want to stay clear of trouble and get a respectable position. If anyone asks why haven't I set higher targets, I'd blame the turmoil happening within our club, that it's impossible and that a Europa League qualification spot would probably be the best we can do and will be pardoned by the fans. They'll probably say Uncle Roy's done ok. Not too bad, not too good either. Mediocre. In Uncle Roy's mind, that's a B+ on his report card. He's happy. Next season, he'll aim for A-. But never A+. That's for nutjobs like Mourinho. I'm too old for this shit. Gotta watch my heart you know.
You see, son. I've seen it all. I've taken all sorts of criticisms, heck, even managed to be bottom of the table once (with Blackburn)...so nothing fazes me anymore.
Do I feel any pressure ? Like I said, nothing fazes me anymore. The worst that would happen is that I walk or they sack me. It's not as if I haven't been sacked before, have I ? Unlike Rafa Benitez, he's still got a long future ahead of him and can't afford a blot on his CV. Mine ? Haha, I don't bloody care to be honest.
In other words, the pressure of managing a top-tier club like ours hasn't got to Uncle Roy (yet) and judging from his uninspiring interviews, lackadaisical body languages and the boring way he sets us up to play, it seems he is content for a Europa League spot.
This ain't a bloody retirement home, Uncle Roy !
This is an old manager on the verge of retirement, who has managed mediocre teams around the globe, all battle-weary and accustomed to defeats, failures and unmet expectations. The best he's done is mediocrity.
I try to put myself in Uncle Roy's shoes and wonder what would my mentality be ?
Well, I'd probably want to stay clear of trouble and get a respectable position. If anyone asks why haven't I set higher targets, I'd blame the turmoil happening within our club, that it's impossible and that a Europa League qualification spot would probably be the best we can do and will be pardoned by the fans. They'll probably say Uncle Roy's done ok. Not too bad, not too good either. Mediocre. In Uncle Roy's mind, that's a B+ on his report card. He's happy. Next season, he'll aim for A-. But never A+. That's for nutjobs like Mourinho. I'm too old for this shit. Gotta watch my heart you know.
You see, son. I've seen it all. I've taken all sorts of criticisms, heck, even managed to be bottom of the table once (with Blackburn)...so nothing fazes me anymore.
Do I feel any pressure ? Like I said, nothing fazes me anymore. The worst that would happen is that I walk or they sack me. It's not as if I haven't been sacked before, have I ? Unlike Rafa Benitez, he's still got a long future ahead of him and can't afford a blot on his CV. Mine ? Haha, I don't bloody care to be honest.
In other words, the pressure of managing a top-tier club like ours hasn't got to Uncle Roy (yet) and judging from his uninspiring interviews, lackadaisical body languages and the boring way he sets us up to play, it seems he is content for a Europa League spot.
This ain't a bloody retirement home, Uncle Roy !
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=41948.msg1177542#msg1177542 date=1284907841]
I think his tactics have left a lot to be desired tbh. What the fuck was he doing with Meireles today?
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His use of Meireles I found baffling. I've seen him a few times for Porto and Internationally and he's never played in a behind the striker role. Gerrad or Cole were surely better suited for that role today.
I think his tactics have left a lot to be desired tbh. What the fuck was he doing with Meireles today?
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His use of Meireles I found baffling. I've seen him a few times for Porto and Internationally and he's never played in a behind the striker role. Gerrad or Cole were surely better suited for that role today.
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I'm not going to defend Roy hopelessly, things haven't been good. But we've had a tough start to the season, he inherited a weak squad, and was given a negative spend to improve it.
Some of Roy's criticisms are merited, others less so - but what is certain is the personal abuse he's receiving FIVE games into the season is uncalled for.
Some of Roy's criticisms are merited, others less so - but what is certain is the personal abuse he's receiving FIVE games into the season is uncalled for.
A fifty fifty first half punctuated with a late soft goal, second half more ofthe same then a wonder goal ... We claw back from 2 nil down against a team who should have been down to ten ... We lose ... Didn't lack fight didn't lack effort. I don't understand slagging the manager for today, it's gratuitous wank to suggest it's his fault. We played a better team away from home and lost grow some balls and get over it.
This sack Roy bullshit agenda is about as knee-jerk and fucking Newcastle as it gets.
Ps I'm a Rafa fan.and you can all get fucked. We are all rucking pissed off but ... Blame Roy ?? For what ?? He should have sent on Messi the dozy cunt..... Fucks sake...
This sack Roy bullshit agenda is about as knee-jerk and fucking Newcastle as it gets.
Ps I'm a Rafa fan.and you can all get fucked. We are all rucking pissed off but ... Blame Roy ?? For what ?? He should have sent on Messi the dozy cunt..... Fucks sake...
It's been a bit disappointing so far, his starting lineups and approaches to games have been largely the same as Rafa's.
The only thing he did differently to Rafa was that when we were two down he took off White Goodman and replaced him with N'Gog and we scored almost immediately.
It's still way too early for all the hysterical bollocks though.
The only thing he did differently to Rafa was that when we were two down he took off White Goodman and replaced him with N'Gog and we scored almost immediately.
It's still way too early for all the hysterical bollocks though.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41948.msg1177574#msg1177574 date=1284908782]
I'm not going to defend Roy hopelessly, things haven't been good. But we've had a tough start to the season, he inherited a weak squad and was given a negative spend to improve it.
Some of Roy's criticisms are merited, others less so - but what is certain is the personal abuse he's receiving FIVE games into the season is uncalled for.
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Agree with this completely.
I'm not going to defend Roy hopelessly, things haven't been good. But we've had a tough start to the season, he inherited a weak squad and was given a negative spend to improve it.
Some of Roy's criticisms are merited, others less so - but what is certain is the personal abuse he's receiving FIVE games into the season is uncalled for.
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Agree with this completely.
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=41948.msg1177579#msg1177579 date=1284908895]
A fifty fifty first half punctuated with a late soft goal, second half more ofthe same then a wonder goal ... We claw back from 2 nil down against a team who should have been down to ten ... We lose ... Didn't lack fight didn't lack effort. I don't understand slagging the manager for today, it's gratuitous wank to suggest it's his fault. We played a better team away from home and lost grow some balls and get over it.
This sack Roy bullshit agenda is about as knee-jerk and fucking Newcastle as it gets.
Ps I'm a Rafa fan.and you can all get fucked. We are all rucking pissed off but ... Blame Roy ?? For what ?? He should have sent on Messi the dozy cunt..... Fucks sake...
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you can't blame the manager for a wonder goal, you can however blame the manager for making defensive subs when the team is in the ascendancy, causing us to defend deeper and deeper, killing any momentum and handing manu an open invitation to attack us (like they need an invitation)
A fifty fifty first half punctuated with a late soft goal, second half more ofthe same then a wonder goal ... We claw back from 2 nil down against a team who should have been down to ten ... We lose ... Didn't lack fight didn't lack effort. I don't understand slagging the manager for today, it's gratuitous wank to suggest it's his fault. We played a better team away from home and lost grow some balls and get over it.
This sack Roy bullshit agenda is about as knee-jerk and fucking Newcastle as it gets.
Ps I'm a Rafa fan.and you can all get fucked. We are all rucking pissed off but ... Blame Roy ?? For what ?? He should have sent on Messi the dozy cunt..... Fucks sake...
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you can't blame the manager for a wonder goal, you can however blame the manager for making defensive subs when the team is in the ascendancy, causing us to defend deeper and deeper, killing any momentum and handing manu an open invitation to attack us (like they need an invitation)
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41948.msg1177520#msg1177520 date=1284907445]
Give him till XMAS....until then, zip up already.
We've had a tough start to the season.
I feel more confident now, than I did under Benitez.
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Ha, what's gonna happen at Christmas? These owners will not be sacking him
Give him till XMAS....until then, zip up already.
We've had a tough start to the season.
I feel more confident now, than I did under Benitez.
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Ha, what's gonna happen at Christmas? These owners will not be sacking him
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41948.msg1177497#msg1177497 date=1284907108]
Is this the worst start to a Liverpool managers career in modern history?
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I don't think Rafa had to play three potential top four sides in his first half dozen league games, but don't let perspective cloud your judgement.
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It's Brendan Mark. He hopes we crash and burn so he can solidify his claim as our smartest, most messiah-like poster.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41948.msg1177497#msg1177497 date=1284907108]
Is this the worst start to a Liverpool managers career in modern history?
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I don't think Rafa had to play three potential top four sides in his first half dozen league games, but don't let perspective cloud your judgement.
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It's Brendan Mark. He hopes we crash and burn so he can solidify his claim as our smartest, most messiah-like poster.
Did I mentioned I'm pissed and u can all rightly get fucked. U all love Rooney.Cunts.
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[quote author=ragehard link=topic=41948.msg1177511#msg1177511 date=1284907320]
perspective? i'm calling him for what he is - a spineless coward
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Unfortunately forum rules prevent me doing the same for you
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boom tish.
How's lilongwe today btw?
[quote author=ragehard link=topic=41948.msg1177511#msg1177511 date=1284907320]
perspective? i'm calling him for what he is - a spineless coward
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Unfortunately forum rules prevent me doing the same for you
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boom tish.
How's lilongwe today btw?
[quote author=peekay link=topic=41948.msg1177628#msg1177628 date=1284910267]
Roys away record in the premiership:
played 76, won 12, drawn 27, lost 37
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All of them whilst managing Real Madrid.
He was robbed every time ... Your mum.
Roys away record in the premiership:
played 76, won 12, drawn 27, lost 37
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All of them whilst managing Real Madrid.
He was robbed every time ... Your mum.
Played 76. Won 12.
End of thread, right there
End of thread, right there
The best possible manager we could get is probably Pellegrini.
Some people may not rate him but he's better then Roy. Should have gone with him in the first place.
The only reason why I think we went for Roy is because he's English(Brittish) and some other crap which is shit grounds for choosing a manager.
Some people may not rate him but he's better then Roy. Should have gone with him in the first place.
The only reason why I think we went for Roy is because he's English(Brittish) and some other crap which is shit grounds for choosing a manager.
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"And some other crap"
Yeah, like the over-performance of a relegation threatened Fulham side to a European final, and the ability to operate on a shoe string budget.
I really doubt his passport came into it.
Yeah, like the over-performance of a relegation threatened Fulham side to a European final, and the ability to operate on a shoe string budget.
I really doubt his passport came into it.
I'm going to re-post this from the match thread because it's relevant (yes, it is Brendan).
How many teams go to OT and get 50% of the possession ? We did today and played the ball around exceptionally well. Nani is one of the best & most talented wingers in the league, of course he's going to cause us problems, he would any FB, and his contribution made Berbatov opportunities he took superbly.
As for no ambition - what the fuck are you waffling on about. We came here with a patently inferior team and you, and some others on here, expect us to go on all out attack. Fuck me that's brainless. You can't say bringing N'Gog on for Maxi and Jova on for Miereles was a lack of ambition, it quite obviously was an attempt to win the game not contain.
We nullified their central midfield and stroked the ball around, of course our defence is going to struggle at times - we were playing one of the best teams in the world -but IMO they made a damn good job of it, we were a little unlucky Berbatov is on a hot streak, the Berbatov of last year wouldn't have had two let alone three.
In the end what cost us was a lack of creativity from Maxi & Cole. Cole was great in possession but invariably over-hit his passes, Maxi was just shite at everything. With the possession from our midfield base we should have done better. I think Roy played it quite well against a superior team, neutralise the centre (Miereles and Poulson both had good games) then attack, we did that and in the end could have won it - unfortunately the team slipped into defensive mode and gave the game away. We have to learn as a team (I don't think they were following instructions after the 2nd goal) not to take a step back when you have a team on the ropes.
Miereles (CM) for Jova (F) - yep, totally defensive.
N'Gog (CF) for Maxi (F) - again yep a definite backward step into defensive mode.
Agger for Konchesky - straight swop for a tiring Konch.
Blatantly going for the draw.
How many teams go to OT and get 50% of the possession ? We did today and played the ball around exceptionally well. Nani is one of the best & most talented wingers in the league, of course he's going to cause us problems, he would any FB, and his contribution made Berbatov opportunities he took superbly.
As for no ambition - what the fuck are you waffling on about. We came here with a patently inferior team and you, and some others on here, expect us to go on all out attack. Fuck me that's brainless. You can't say bringing N'Gog on for Maxi and Jova on for Miereles was a lack of ambition, it quite obviously was an attempt to win the game not contain.
We nullified their central midfield and stroked the ball around, of course our defence is going to struggle at times - we were playing one of the best teams in the world -but IMO they made a damn good job of it, we were a little unlucky Berbatov is on a hot streak, the Berbatov of last year wouldn't have had two let alone three.
In the end what cost us was a lack of creativity from Maxi & Cole. Cole was great in possession but invariably over-hit his passes, Maxi was just shite at everything. With the possession from our midfield base we should have done better. I think Roy played it quite well against a superior team, neutralise the centre (Miereles and Poulson both had good games) then attack, we did that and in the end could have won it - unfortunately the team slipped into defensive mode and gave the game away. We have to learn as a team (I don't think they were following instructions after the 2nd goal) not to take a step back when you have a team on the ropes.
Miereles (CM) for Jova (F) - yep, totally defensive.
N'Gog (CF) for Maxi (F) - again yep a definite backward step into defensive mode.
Agger for Konchesky - straight swop for a tiring Konch.
Blatantly going for the draw.
Uncle Roy is a midteam idiot and should never been anywhere near our club. Fuck off.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41948.msg1177668#msg1177668 date=1284912161]
"And some other crap"
Yeah, like the over-performance of a relegation threatened Fulham side to a European final, and the ability to operate on a shoe string budget.
I really doubt his passport came into it.
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that shows roy has the ability to get a midtable team to excel in european, more relevent are his finishes in the league.
"And some other crap"
Yeah, like the over-performance of a relegation threatened Fulham side to a European final, and the ability to operate on a shoe string budget.
I really doubt his passport came into it.
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that shows roy has the ability to get a midtable team to excel in european, more relevent are his finishes in the league.
There are so many people on here who should just fuck off and support someone else. Seriously!
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=41948.msg1177704#msg1177704 date=1284913930]
There are so many people on here who should just fuck off and support someone else. Seriously!
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Yeah. Because the answer to who should lead our team is given and not debatable. It has to be Roy Hodgson.
There are so many people on here who should just fuck off and support someone else. Seriously!
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Yeah. Because the answer to who should lead our team is given and not debatable. It has to be Roy Hodgson.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41948.msg1177668#msg1177668 date=1284912161]
"And some other crap"
Yeah, like the over-performance of a relegation threatened Fulham side to a European final, and the ability to operate on a shoe string budget.
I really doubt his passport came into it.
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I can't remember but did they have a team that was a dead cert. relegation squad or just a drop kick manager?
"And some other crap"
Yeah, like the over-performance of a relegation threatened Fulham side to a European final, and the ability to operate on a shoe string budget.
I really doubt his passport came into it.
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I can't remember but did they have a team that was a dead cert. relegation squad or just a drop kick manager?
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41948.msg1177668#msg1177668 date=1284912161]
"And some other crap"
Yeah, like the over-performance of a relegation threatened Fulham side to a European final, and the ability to operate on a shoe string budget.
I really doubt his passport came into it.
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I can't remember but did they have a team that was a dead cert. relegation squad or just a drop kick manager?
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They were uninspirational throughout the whole season apart from 4-1 agianst Juve. Relax, we will win 4-1 in one european match ourselves.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41948.msg1177668#msg1177668 date=1284912161]
"And some other crap"
Yeah, like the over-performance of a relegation threatened Fulham side to a European final, and the ability to operate on a shoe string budget.
I really doubt his passport came into it.
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I can't remember but did they have a team that was a dead cert. relegation squad or just a drop kick manager?
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They were uninspirational throughout the whole season apart from 4-1 agianst Juve. Relax, we will win 4-1 in one european match ourselves.
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