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Yep the league table finishing place doesn't indicate how good the manager is. Whether it's in England, Spain or Italy. I agree.
47 years old, been in charge of Dortmund for 7 years, before that was manager of Mainz. Has won the Bundesliga and German Supercup twice each, as well as getting to the European Cup final once.
Has got Dortmund to play in what has been termed as 'gegenpress' - pressing high up the pitch, with full intensity, for the whole game. Lightning counter attacks and swarming on the opposition.
Unfortunately, many will just pick on the flaws/imperfections and look at the superficial details..
Frank de Boer will not be good enough because of his European record. Besides, how can he lose the title to PSV, having winning it 4 times in a row?
Jurgen Klopp has had a poor season. His big money signings were dodgy. He has benefited from Dortmund's DoF and scouting network.
Unai Emery lost his job at Spartak Moscow after just 6 months. He was lucky to be given the Sevilla job and working under a good DoF like Monchi.
etc... ...
By the same theory, Diego Simone should never have gotten the Atlético Madrid job because even though he had succes with Estudiantes de La Plata, he experienced dismal run of results at River Plate and San Lorenzo.
Agree with all of your points. I would be a little bit wary of Emery though. Monchi makes managers look twice as good as they actually are.
Are we saying that Dortmund's bad luck last season was a combination of key injuries and failing to win games they dominated on account of shitty finishing and individual errors in defence?
As said earlier, I don't follow German football that closely but my understanding was that their resurgence in the second of the season coincided with the return of key players such as Reus? Is that right?
If so, should we not be asking why Klopp was unable to adapt in the face of difficult conditions? It's one thing not challenging for the title, it's quite another to find your team at the bottom of the table or near it. If that's solely down to bad luck, it's a fairly exceptional amount of bad luck.
His magic certainly went missing for a couple of seasons. Could have cost him his job more than 5 years ago! 😛
[article]2014-2015 5th 76 pts
2013-2014 5th 63 pts
2012-2013 9th 50 pts
2011-2012 9th 50 pts
2010-2011 5th 58 pts
2009-2010 4th 63 pts
2008-2009 3rd 70 pts[/article]
Thanks, but I knew that.
And one idiot is trying to dissolve the manager of any responsibility over the horrendous league position of his team.
The luck was the expected goals from shots stats - both for and against.
They were extreme. They were posted in the thread I made about Klopp when they were bottom. I think it was studsup that pointed them out
http://www.sixcrazyminutes.com/inde...get-klopp-in-turkey.66889/page-7#post-1288064
Reus was available for 10 of the 17 league matches. During that period, they lost Piszczek, Durm, Bender, Grosskreutz, Kehl and Sahin. I think he has shown enough ability "to adapt in the face of difficult conditions." 😀
I'm trying to dissolve the manager?
...of any responsibility. try finish reading a sentence before commenting on it.
No it's not.
Liverpool FC chairman Tom Werner will arrive on Merseyside in the next 48 hours as part of Brendan Rodgers' end-of-season review, as the fall-out to the club's disappointing campaign continues.
But the ECHO understands principal owner John W Henry will not be accompanying him.
The 6-1 defeat to Stoke on the final day of the season compounded an awful end to 2014-15 which saw Rodgers' side finish in sixth.
The club have insisted Rodgers' position is not under immediate threat despite that lowly finish, but the Reds boss still awaits to discover his fate and Werner's arrival is set to signify the next step of the process.
Rodgers, who is just 12 months into a four-year contract, looks set to be given the opportunity to convince the owners he can turn things around after a disastrous two months that saw Liverpool take just eight points out of the last 27 on offer.
His future will depend on the review, spearheaded by FSG Mike Gordon, with the Northern Irishman facing several uncomfortable questions over his failure to steer the team to Champions League qualification.
But the ECHO understands principal owner John W Henry will not be accompanying him.
The 6-1 defeat to Stoke on the final day of the season compounded an awful end to 2014-15 which saw Rodgers' side finish in sixth.
The club have insisted Rodgers' position is not under immediate threat despite that lowly finish, but the Reds boss still awaits to discover his fate and Werner's arrival is set to signify the next step of the process.
Rodgers, who is just 12 months into a four-year contract, looks set to be given the opportunity to convince the owners he can turn things around after a disastrous two months that saw Liverpool take just eight points out of the last 27 on offer.
His future will depend on the review, spearheaded by FSG Mike Gordon, with the Northern Irishman facing several uncomfortable questions over his failure to steer the team to Champions League qualification.
Absolve
Absolve, not dissolve.
Ah, so it was an exceptional amount of bad luck!
What are these expected goals from shots stats?
They definitely had an awful times with injuries... I was just posing the question.
Involved.
125 million badly spent is the big difference..
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