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You know how some people have very punchable faces? Werner has a very punchable voice.
I am BR fan, however 3 years in and still no sign of a trophy which is awful.
We are at junction rather than a crossroads and the squad needs tweaking, rather than an overhaul of players.
If likes of Klopp are available and he shows a desire to come here, we would be mental in not wanting to speak to him.
That said whatever manager we get in, we always be held back by the work of the committee with signings like balo (wtf) and Ayre et el in bringing a coveted player to anafield. The latter is of big concern as we have identified and failed with a number of high profile transfers including costa/Sanchez.
We are at junction rather than a crossroads and the squad needs tweaking, rather than an overhaul of players.
If likes of Klopp are available and he shows a desire to come here, we would be mental in not wanting to speak to him.
That said whatever manager we get in, we always be held back by the work of the committee with signings like balo (wtf) and Ayre et el in bringing a coveted player to anafield. The latter is of big concern as we have identified and failed with a number of high profile transfers including costa/Sanchez.
Still pretty desperate for him to be sacked. The more I think about some of his decisions the more of a chancer he seems to be - the pursuit of Benteke, which hardly seems to accord with any approach he's attempted so far, is just the latest example.
I think the biggest catalyst for change is the fierce pressure that BR will be under right from the first preseason game. You just know that there will be murmurings if we lose in preseason and a full blown 'I told you so' when we lose a league game, particularly if it was to be our first game. I don't want the next season to be a continual firefight, full of tortuous pressers and speculation about who is to blame.
If he was going he'd be gone by now I reckon
I've been a big fan of Rodgers but really wanted to see how he could get the players to react following the semi-final defeat to Villa. The answer has been pretty painful for us all to see. If nothing else were to change at the club then I would say his time is up and he should go because he isn't going to make it work under our current set-up. However I still believe the structure behind and above him is wrong and it undermines him. So my answer would be to change the structure and see if this guy who not so long ago was regarded as one of the hottest young coaching properties in Europe can really cut it. If he's given that chance on those terms then I still think he can be the manager we all (well, most of us) hoped he would be. If not, it's de Boer for me.
You obviously don't pay attention to Binny's posts.
11 days is the magic number.
Oh, this again.
It's also something of a myth that Rodgers, at 42, is a precocious young manager. Mourinho arrived in the UK as a Champions League winner and won his first premier title at 42. Ginsoak had won several things by 42, including a european trophy. So had Wenger. Kenny had won several titles and cups, and would only be 44 when he won again with Blackburn. Rafa was only a couple of years older when he won us the European Cup. So if he wants to live up to his own ego, he can't hide behind the age thing, either. Garry Monk is doing at least as well as Rodgers did at Swansea, if not better, and he's only 36. If anything Rodgers seems immature for someone at this stage in his career, not the bright young thing that FSG were so keen to sell to the fans.
If you've no idea what you're talking about, that's fine.
And nothing new
Anyone with any sort of ability to read stats knows Dortmund were simply unlucky in the first half of the season.
Given he was bottom at Christmas.. thats not a bad turn around..
His side was ravaged with injuries.. and his top players cherry picked from Bayern...
Much of that 'evidence' you could provide for BR though. Best player sold, top striker crocked etc etc
I assumed you were going down your managers are irrelevant path again.
Which kinda makes me 'disagree' with the thinking that if we can't get Klopp/Ancelotti, then keep him.
I mean is it because he is that great or its really just a blip? Are we saying there's no one else who can do better than him? What has he achieved or won? Are we saying that just because he did better than Hodgson?
It's nothing personal/ belittling from me. Just feel that there are options out there who can be as good a job (not that its what we want/aim for, but for those who fear we will end up with another Hodgson), if not better.
I would have a lot more confidence in Brendan if, after Sturridge's injury and when it became apparent we weren't going to be scoring anywhere near the same amount of goals, he at least adopted the strategy of making us hard to beat.
Part of the problem is that he's made a rod for his own back with some of the stuff he's said. Citing his 300-page dossier on his footballing philosophy as an example. You educate players, rather than training dogs, like he's so different from everyone else. He built himself up to be this visionary and what we've been served up - this season especially - hasn't matched up to it. If he was fairly humble I'd be more likely to cut him some slack, but he's given me the impression that he'd be able to cope far better in adversity than he actually has.
Hmm, I think that's a little unfair Macca to be honest. Mourinho, Ferguson and Kenny are three of the most successful managers in the history of the British game. Not many measure up to them. As for Gary Monk, we can all speculate how he would get on in one of the top jobs. Would he take a team to within a game of the title in his second season in charge? I doubt it...with or without Suarez and all of the usual caveats!
I'm saying if Klopp had a poor season there would be specific things he did or didn't do that were the reasons he had a poor season.
I've yet to see anybody point out one.
One idiot just posted the league table as if the finishing place of the team indicates how good the manager was
I was merely citing the most successful of quite a large group. The point is he's never been this amazing child prodigy that Werner billed him as when he announced he'd got the job. And your point about Garry Monk: you have as much evidence to doubt him as anyone had about Rodgers. But here's a thought: he's shown far more shrewdness and versatility when it comes to getting a balance between defence and attack - something that most Swansea fans won't hesitate to point out and applaud.
This is why I am wary of the way Klopp is regarded on here. I don't watch enough German football to know a thing about him.
The double against Arsenal and Man Utd this season probably meant Monk has taken off more points from the top 4 teams than Rodgers did.
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