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mark1975 said:
There's dicks like that everywhere though, it's just society innit?
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Quite. I'll never really understand the shock some feel when they get abused on twitter. Twitter is like the roughest, most violent, booziest pub in town, just before closing time, and yet people go on there and seem stunned to encounter some absolute twats.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
Oh, I'm sure. But both were in place, or at least were rumoured a long time time before he took over. He hasn't seemed to have had much influence in actually getting anyone in, despite the hundreds of rumours.
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😀

As I delighted in telling my United supporting mates : just because you are United don't think it's going to be easy to attract players to a team in the North of England, who had a traumatic season last year and who are not in the CL. 😀 😀
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
Oh, I'm sure. But both were in place, or at least were rumoured a long time time before he took over. He hasn't seemed to have had much influence in actually getting anyone in, despite the hundreds of rumours.
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I think he approved those transfers, if not actually recommended them.

But I am intrigued by just how many of the pundits think Man U will simply bounce back into the top 4 even leap-frogging Arsenal never mind Liverpool and Spurs, along the way. Even the bookies are hard at it so much so that I am tempted.
 
Frogfish said:
😀

As I delighted in telling my United supporting mates : just because you are United don't think it's going to be easy to attract players to a team in the North of England, who had a traumatic season last year and who are not in the CL. 😀 😀
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Make no mistake, I'm rubbing it in thick too. Hope they overpay for anyone they get.
 
gkmacca said:
Quite. I'll never really understand the shock some feel when they get abused on twitter. Twitter is like the roughest, most violent, booziest pub in town, just before closing time, and yet people go on there and seem stunned to encounter some absolute twats.
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More surprised at the fact it is someone clearly using the account as an LFC fan using it to abuse the club's own players. Wouldn't be shocked to see opposition fans giving him stick and tagging him - great way to get in head of opposition players. To do it to your own though is just thick. Deserves a kicking.
 
They are not a real supporter. They have picked a brand, know nothing about football and are only interested in regurgitating purile arguments to puff up their own ego. Lot of it about.
 
Red Bird said:
But I am intrigued by just how many of the pundits think Man U will simply bounce back into the top 4 even leap-frogging Arsenal never mind Liverpool and Spurs, along the way. Even the bookies are hard at it so much so that I am tempted.
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That's just the United fans piling in because of LvG.
 
Brizzle said:
More surprised at the fact it is someone clearly using the account as an LFC fan using it to abuse the club's own players. Wouldn't be shocked to see opposition fans giving him stick and tagging him - great way to get in head of opposition players. To do it to your own though is just thick. Deserves a kicking.
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Unless he's just masquerading as a Pool fan and is actually Scum.
 
You'd be astonished at the number of supposedly LFC fans who post everyday on the S*n website without any sense of embarrassment. There are some real boneheads out there. Thankfully it's still easy to avoid them, which makes those who practically invite them to interact all the more peculiar.
 
Football Manager computer game to help Premier League clubs buy players

• Scouts to begin using game’s database to identify talent
• Prozone recruiter tool has information on 80,000 players
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Football manager’s biographical, contractual and positional information will be incorporated into the Prozone Recruiter tool. Photograph: Jan Kruger/Getty Images
Premier League clubs are to start using the database belonging to the computer game Football Manager to help identify and recruit new signings.
Sports Interactive, the creator of the best-selling game, will begin feeding its extensive information into Prozone Recruiter, an online analysis platform which many of the top clubs use to scout new talent.
Biographical, contractual and positional information compiled by SI over two decades will be incorporated into the Prozone tool, which provides player data and archived video footage of tens of thousands of players from across the world.
“Prozone Recruiter has been built to supplement the intuition of scouts and coaches by delivering detailed performance information on over 80,000 players worldwide,” says Prozone’s CEO Thomas Schmider. “The Sports Interactive database is a highly accurate and valuable resource that will further enhance the recruitment services that we provide. The integration of Sports Interactive data further establishes Recruiter as the most comprehensive recruitment and asset management platform available.”
Sports Interactive’s studio director Miles Jacobson said: “For years we’ve heard stories of real-life managers and scouts using our data to help with the recruitment process. From now on, it’s official…real managers around the world will be finding and comparing players using data and a search system that will be very familiar to players of Football Manager.
“The information gathered by our network of more than 1,300 scouts around the world, combined with Prozone’s amazing performance data, makes this an invaluable tool for any football club that takes player recruitment seriously.”

http://www.theguardian.com/football...omputer-game-premier-league-clubs-buy-players
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
Has Van Gaal actually signed anyone yet? Shaw and Herrera were signed before he took over, the rest seem like a load of rumours that haven't much legs.

He's obviously going to have them playing a lot better without many signings, but you'd think he'd actually make at least one signing.*

*I'm probably forgetting someone they have signed...
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No just the two signings so far.

LVG said he wanted a few weeks to evaluate the players he had first before deciding who to buy and who to sell.

I'm expecting us to be active in the next week or so and after that I will start to panic a little.

2/3 new players needed and I think we are in a reasonably strong position to challenge for top 4.
 
Frogfish said:
That's just the United fans piling in because of LvG.
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Commentators are more often wrong than right, bookies less so IMO. Not all bookies just balance the books so firms will actually take a position in a market so if they think 5 to 1 us is just stupid they will push those odds out to make more money. However, I think what has factored into the odds is us strengthening significantly. Hasn't happened yet but if it doesn't happen by Sept 1st we will be much much longer odds.

There will be a certain amount of United fans pilling in but I'm sure that fans from other teams would pile in if they thought the odds for their own team were way too high. At 12 to one ye look like really good value. Couldn't bet on ye to win but think that bet will look like good value as the season progresses.

I would say there is close to zero chance of us winning the league this season and even top 4 will be a tall order.
 
ChastenedMUFC said:
Commentators are more often wrong than right, bookies less so IMO. Not all bookies just balance the books so firms will actually take a position in a market so if they think 5 to 1 us is just stupid they will push those odds out to make more money. However, I think what has factored into the odds is us strengthening significantly. Hasn't happened yet but if it doesn't happen by Sept 1st we will be much much longer odds.

There will be a certain amount of United fans pilling in but I'm sure that fans from other teams would pile in if they thought the odds for their own team were way too high. At 12 to one ye look like really good value. Couldn't bet on ye to win but think that bet will look like good value as the season progresses.

I would say there is close to zero chance of us winning the league this season and even top 4 will be a tall order.
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The initial position, yes maybe: remember it is informed by the knowledgeable (as in commentators and observers) quantifying even qualitative data. Man U at shorter odds than Arsenal, never mind Liverpool (who most pundits assume will uniquely be weighed down by European commitments)? It's a reaction to movements in the market-- that is how bookies bookies make money. Not only that but they cover their backsides by taking positions with other bookies.
 
Man City paid £24.4m to Porto for Mangala. Also paid £14.2m to 3rd party owner + £4.3m to Standard Liege. £42.9m total (Source: @JakeFCohen)
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We got Sakho (who is starting ahead of Mangala for France) and Lovren for a combined £38M. Not bad!
 
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