Transfer Rumours 21/22

[MomoWASright]

Or do you want them to come out and say that our strategy is to wait until the end of the window when teams become a bit more desperate, if our targets havent moved yet.

I don’t want them to say anything. I’ve spent too much of my life speaking to accountants to want to hear some more.

I’m at a stage in my life where I don’t really care who stays or goes.

 

[bluebell]

FSG as an entity had been bereft of funds throughout the lockdown. It sold 10% of its stake to RedBird Capital to stay afloat.
The expansion will be financed through a loan, as its cheap, under 2%.
So over 10 years that's £7.2m a season (not sure of the maths).
The additional revenue as a result of the increased capacity should be more than £10m, right, when you consider all the non-football events that will be hosted in the stadium?

 

[binomial]

If the clubs only acquisition is Konate, I hope the owners have the fortitude to face the press, rather than wheeling Klopp out to defend them.

& What owners do you know face the press exactly? Managers are employed tasked with that exactly role.

 

[Hansern]

FSG as an entity had been bereft of funds throughout the lockdown. It sold 10% of its stake to RedBird Capital to stay afloat.
The expansion will be financed through a loan, as its cheap, under 2%.
So over 10 years that's £7.2m a season (not sure of the maths).
The additional revenue as a result of the increased capacity should be more than £10m, right, when you consider all the non-football events that will be hosted in the stadium?

We’re one of the clubs who have repaid the Covid loans. Unlike Spurs and Utd among others.
The Club is in a healthy state financialy considering we’re in the middle of a pandemic.

 

[MomoWASright]

We’re one of the clubs who have repaid the Covid loans. Unlike Spurs and Utd among others.
The Club is in a healthy state financialy considering we’re in the middle of a pandemic.

We also didn’t claim the furlough scheme because of public outcry. Yet businesses with billions in the bank didn’t get the same attention.

 

[YNWA]

Kane off to city than!


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[Markeh]

Surely he won’t want to go there, 2 weeks ago i was reading he’d only leave inter for Barcelona or Madrid

 

[binomial]

There's no way Spurs can afford 60m on player when they've just signed Gil and Romero for 67.5m unless Kane's off.

 

[Red Bird]

Kane off to city than!


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Bloody hell! That’s a handy player and one to fit how Liverpool plays rather (than Spurs.) He can't play as a lone striker. If I were him, I'd insert a reasonable get-out clause.

 

[Red Bird]

Even with its petro-dosh, PSG has to be getting rid of some its [good] players if Messi goes there. Surely.

 

[Donavan Ried]

It's just occurred to me that we haven't considered the impact of the Annie Road expansion on our transfer budget. I had kind of assumed that FSG would lend the club the money like they did with the Main Stand, so it wouldn't affect our normal operations.
But the Annie Road stand (£60m spend, 5,200 low-value general admission seats and 1,800 "sports bar" (also low value, relatively speaking)) isn't going to generate the kind of return the Main Stand did. So it's a harder sell to US investors who like baseball to put the money in because the return is relatively low. And if they're not going to fund it, and we're going to need to find the money ourselves, then either:

1. We need to take on some extra debt; or
2. We need to rein in our transfer spending (probably this year and next, as the stand is supposed to be complete for season 2023-24 (2 year project).

The impact on spending for next year probably won't be as bad as we should get the first year's worth of season ticket cash in (including hospitality) and the spending in year 1 will probably be quite high as it will include the cost of the steel for the structure.
So when we see other teams spending more money than us, it may be because they don't have to find £60m over 2 years to pay for an extra 7,000 seats.
I imagine some fans will be OK with this because they'll stand a better chance of getting in to watch the match in 2 years time, and others (who can already get in or who rarely get the chance to visit Liverpool) will be less impressed.
Don't shoot the messenger.
And we might be going down the debt route in which case you can ignore the above and the additional ticket revenue will more than pay for interest costs and repayments in future years.

Now that FSG plans for joining the Super League has been scuppered,it would be interesting to see If a decent offer came in for LFC if they would now sell the club, been as it seems that when they bought Liverpool FC that they did so with the Super League in mind and the financial implications of that at the forefront of their thinking

 

[binomial]

Liverpool's Net Spend last 6 windows;

So far this summer - £1m (Konate minus Grujic Wilson Awoniyi Grabara and Millar)

Jan 20/21 - £2m (Ben Davies & Kabak Loan fee)

Summer 20/21 - 27.5m (Jota Thiago and Tsimikas minus Brewster Hoever Lovren Ejaria & Wilson loan fee)

Jan 19/20 - 7.65m (Minamino)

Summer 19/20 - Minus 30m (Basically nobody as Adrian and Sepp don't count - Ings Kent Mignolet)

Jan 18/19 - Minus 19m (Solanke)

That's a shambles.

Ok we've hit a pandemic but how is a club that's won the CL, PL, finished 2nd and 3rd and got to another CL final managed a negative net spend??

 

[Hansern]

Kane off to city than!


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Looks like he wont be sold after Lukaku has gone to Chelsea

 

[binomial]

Inter signing Dzeko on 2 year deal....Lukaku's replacement I'm assuming.

 

[Red Bird]

Liverpool's Net Spend last 6 windows;

So far this summer - £1m (Konate minus Grujic Wilson Awoniyi Grabara and Millar)

Jan 20/21 - £2m (Ben Davies & Kabak Loan fee)

Summer 20/21 - 27.5m (Jota Thiago and Tsimikas minus Brewster Hoever Lovren Ejaria & Wilson loan fee)

Jan 19/20 - 7.65m (Minamino)

Summer 19/20 - Minus 30m (Basically nobody as Adrian and Sepp don't count - Ings Kent Mignolet)

Jan 18/19 - Minus 19m (Solanke)

That's a shambles.

Ok we've hit a pandemic but how is a club that's won the CL, PL, finished 2nd and 3rd and got to another CL final managed a negative net spend??

I'm not sure that's such a bad thing looking at what is currently unfolding at Barcelona and Real Madrid and, quite possibly, most of the Italian teams.

 

[binomial]

I'm not sure that's such a bad thing looking at what is currently unfolding at Barcelona and Real Madrid and, quite possibly, most of the Italian teams.

Another thing, aren't Barca Madrid and Juve still part of this ESL? What the fuck's that all about, how is that supposed to work?

In a way it is a bad thing because look at the ages of our players....Virgil Matip Mo Mane Bobby all hitting 30. Milner only 1 or 2 years left, Hendo maybe gone in few years once his contract is up.....the rebuilding job would require hundreds of million in Net Spend because we'll have no assets at the club to sell.....something I don't see happening....Am very concerned would be an understatement.

 

[Hansern]

The Martinez fee was agreed with Spurs before the Lukaku deal.
Looks like Inter wont sell both.

 

[Red Bird]

The Martinez fee was agreed with Spurs before the Lukaku deal.
Looks like Inter wont sell both.

Worth keeping an eye on him, though. Inter will need to sell again if things don't improve over there.

 

[binomial]

Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Lautaro Martinez’ agent Alejandro Camano: “Lautaro is happy at Inter and in Italy. His decision is to stay”, he told to @CLMerlo. Tottenham made a bid for Lautaro days ago, Inter want to keep him. ������ #THFC #Lautaro

 

[Woland]

 

[MomoWASright]

Our curse of last season has moved on to someone else. Excellent news.

 

[dmishra]

If Lautaro is available, it's an absolute joke that we're not in for him.

Complete shambles if everyone of our rivals can afford to make big signings, while the best we can do is offer large contracts to our ageing players. This isn't smart at all from FSG.

 

[binomial]

If Lautaro is available, it's an absolute joke that we're not in for him.

Complete shambles if everyone of our rivals can afford to make big signings, while the best we can do is offer large contracts to our ageing players. This isn't smart at all from FSG.

Fab and Alisson ageing?

 

[Red Bird]

Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Lautaro Martinez’ agent Alejandro Camano: “Lautaro is happy at Inter and in Italy. His decision is to stay”, he told to @CLMerlo. Tottenham made a bid for Lautaro days ago, Inter want to keep him. ������ #THFC #Lautaro

Hmmm ... not sure if that is any more enlightening. Talking a lot but saying nothing.

 

[MomoWASright]

Fab and Alisson ageing?

I’d say they’re in their prime and we are protecting their value.

 

[SummerOnions]

If that's the case then they're just repeating Arsenals mistakes. They let the team rot and have struggled to rebuild ever since.

Perhaps, like Kroenke, they don't particularly care as long as the numbers stack up but it's frustrating to watch.

I hear that but we did win trophies!

 

[Hansern]

 

[ibromurph]

If we spend only 35m "+ sales", I'll be fine with it considering the stadium payments and lack of revenue due to Covid. We're are not operating in the same stratosphere as City, Chelsea and United so there is no point comparing spend with them. Arsenal and Spurs have had barren years themselves with stadiums to pay off. We're no different in that respect.

The key thing here though is the +sales part. Offload:

12m Wilson
13m Origi
15m Phillips
15m Shaqiri
10m Minamino

That's enough money for a CM and CF of the Malens/Bissouma level (doesn't have to be them in particular). But getting those 2 signs could keep us in the mix for a title (with a bit of luck with injuries; and lets face it, we need luck with injuries because we don't have the depths of squads of others)

 

[bluebell]

If we spend only 35m "+ sales", I'll be fine with it considering the stadium payments and lack of revenue due to Covid. We're are not operating in the same stratosphere as City, Chelsea and United so there is no point comparing spend with them. Arsenal and Spurs have had barren years themselves with stadiums to pay off. We're no different in that respect.

The key thing here though is the +sales part. Offload:

12m Wilson
13m Origi
15m Phillips
15m Shaqiri
10m Minamino

That's enough money for a CM and CF of the Malens/Bissouma level (doesn't have to be them in particular). But getting those 2 signs could keep us in the mix for a title (with a bit of luck with injuries; and lets face it, we need luck with injuries because we don't have the depths of squads of others)

Philips is homegrown and we don't have enough of them.
Origi, far as I am I aware the best bid we've had is £10m
Shaq and Minamino, no bids as of yet

 

[binomial]

I know it's a league probably no one here follows or cares about but just thought I'd mention Michael Frey getting 5 goals for Antwerp away at Liege this afternoon.

Can't remember too many getting 5 in 1 league game before....seem to recall Berba and maybe Aguero?