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Transfer Rumours 21/22

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From James Pearce via the Athletic:

Incomings
  • No bids made for Renato Sanches or Saul Niguez
  • Yves Bissouma and Youri Tielemans admired - however both out of our price range
  • Neuhaus interest is real, however the release clause has expired, Gladbach don't want to sell.
  • Kingsley Coman not a target
  • Donyell interest is real, and we did make an official enquiry on his availability. However haven't followed it up.
  • Kabak was indeed offered to us for £8.5m - we still said no
Parallels to last year when we had to sell Hoever and Brewster to help fund later deals for Thiago & Jota

Outgoings
  • Grujic & Wilson most likely to be sold
  • Porto not willing to meet our asking price for Grujic
  • Wilson wanted by Brentford, WBA and Benfica - We want more than £11m
  • Phillips is available if someone offers £15m - Burnley are sniffing
  • Neco Willioams available for £10m - Leeds, Southampton and Burnley interested
  • Karius & Ojo have been told they have no future at us.
  • Origi is available, however the club have denied reports of an £11m bid from Gladbach
  • Shaqiri available for £13m
  • Awonyi available for £8m - Wanted by Fulham, WBA and Stoke - Club rejected £4.5m bid from Anderlecht.
 
bluebell said:
Antoine Griezmann – Saul Niguez swap is advanced (RMC) | Get French Football News (getfootballnewsfrance.com)

Antoine Griezmann – Saul Niguez swap is advanced (RMC)
As reported by Cadena COPE on Wednesday, RMC Sport affirm that negotiations are at an advanced stage between Atletico Madrid and Barcelona over a possible Saul Niguez and Antoine Griezmann swap deal.
Talks have been on since last week over a deal and the French international is now close to a return to Atleti – the deal will not be executed as a straight swap, but rather two separate transfers, which will see Diego Simeone’s side pay slightly more than the Catalan giants.

Real ,Madrid

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LaLiga slash Real Madrid wage cap by £150m


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July 14, 2021
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Ifreke Inyang
LaLiga will slash Real Madrid’s wage cap by almost £150million for the 2021/2022 season, throwing the future of several players into doubt.

Last season, the club’s maximum operating budget was €473million (£403m), but that figure has dropped to €300m (£255m) for the upcoming campaign.
The salary cap is imposed by the league and is based on the club’s projected income.
This will allow them to retain a model of economic sustainability, so that their spending is within their revenue streams.
In the 2019/2020 season before COVID-19 kicked in, Madrid’s salary budget stood at €641million. This means the cap has more than halved in that two-year timeframe.
That drop led to Los Blancos not signing any players last summer, with a number of young players sold. Achraf Hakimi, Sergio Reguilon and Oscar Rodriguez were among the academy graduates to be permanently sold, as James Rodriguez joined Everton.
The loan exits of Gareth Bale, Brahim Diaz, Luka Jovic and Martin Odegaard also temporarily eased the wage bill, but that quartet of players has now returned to the club.
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I've got to admit - if La Liga follow this through, then maximum respect. The wages that both Barcelona and Real were throwing at players were/are unsustainable. How many times have they gone bust? Real especially.
 
Judge Jules said:
Nat available for £15 mill.but we wouldn't pay £8.5 mill.for Kabak?
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Indeed - that piqued my interest as well. We are apparently well stocked. I'm assuming he means including the youngsters both in the youth team and on loan:

Sepp van den Berg
Billy Koumetio
Rhys Williams
Jarell Quansah
Stefan Bajcetic
 
The Nomad said:
From James Pearce via the Athletic:

Incomings
  • No bids made for Renato Sanches or Saul Niguez
  • Yves Bissouma and Youri Tielemans admired - however both out of our price range
  • Neuhaus interest is real, however the release clause has expired, Gladbach don't want to sell.
  • Kingsley Coman not a target
  • Donyell interest is real, and we did make an official enquiry on his availability. However haven't followed it up.
  • Kabak was indeed offered to us for £8.5m - we still said no
Parallels to last year when we had to sell Hoever and Brewster to help fund later deals for Thiago & Jota

Outgoings
  • Grujic & Wilson most likely to be sold
  • Porto not willing to meet our asking price for Grujic
  • Wilson wanted by Brentford, WBA and Benfica - We want more than £11m
  • Phillips is available if someone offers £15m - Burnley are sniffing
  • Neco Willioams available for £10m - Leeds, Southampton and Burnley interested
  • Karius & Ojo have been told they have no future at us.
  • Origi is available, however the club have denied reports of an £11m bid from Gladbach
  • Shaqiri available for £13m
  • Awonyi available for £8m - Wanted by Fulham, WBA and Stoke - Club rejected £4.5m bid from Anderlecht.
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I swear this is like the 5th article Pearce has written over the last 2 months, giving the same updates. No movement whatsoever on moving any of our deadwood.
 
The Nomad said:
From James Pearce via the Athletic:

Incomings
  • No bids made for Renato Sanches or Saul Niguez
  • Yves Bissouma and Youri Tielemans admired - however both out of our price range
  • Neuhaus interest is real, however the release clause has expired, Gladbach don't want to sell.
  • Kingsley Coman not a target
  • Donyell interest is real, and we did make an official enquiry on his availability. However haven't followed it up.
  • Kabak was indeed offered to us for £8.5m - we still said no
Parallels to last year when we had to sell Hoever and Brewster to help fund later deals for Thiago & Jota

Outgoings
  • Grujic & Wilson most likely to be sold
  • Porto not willing to meet our asking price for Grujic
  • Wilson wanted by Brentford, WBA and Benfica - We want more than £11m
  • Phillips is available if someone offers £15m - Burnley are sniffing
  • Neco Willioams available for £10m - Leeds, Southampton and Burnley interested
  • Karius & Ojo have been told they have no future at us.
  • Origi is available, however the club have denied reports of an £11m bid from Gladbach
  • Shaqiri available for £13m
  • Awonyi available for £8m - Wanted by Fulham, WBA and Stoke - Club rejected £4.5m bid from Anderlecht.
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Karius has been told he has no future at the club. Funniest shit I've ever read, his Liverpool career ended over 3 years ago and he's still hanging around.
 
The Nomad said:
From James Pearce via the Athletic:

Incomings
  • No bids made for Renato Sanches or Saul Niguez
  • Yves Bissouma and Youri Tielemans admired - however both out of our price range
  • Neuhaus interest is real, however the release clause has expired, Gladbach don't want to sell.
  • Kingsley Coman not a target
  • Donyell interest is real, and we did make an official enquiry on his availability. However haven't followed it up.
  • Kabak was indeed offered to us for £8.5m - we still said no
Parallels to last year when we had to sell Hoever and Brewster to help fund later deals for Thiago & Jota

Outgoings
  • Grujic & Wilson most likely to be sold
  • Porto not willing to meet our asking price for Grujic
  • Wilson wanted by Brentford, WBA and Benfica - We want more than £11m
  • Phillips is available if someone offers £15m - Burnley are sniffing
  • Neco Willioams available for £10m - Leeds, Southampton and Burnley interested
  • Karius & Ojo have been told they have no future at us.
  • Origi is available, however the club have denied reports of an £11m bid from Gladbach
  • Shaqiri available for £13m
  • Awonyi available for £8m - Wanted by Fulham, WBA and Stoke - Club rejected £4.5m bid from Anderlecht.
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Wow, we're really showing our big ambition in this transfer window
 
Mamma Mia said:
People complain about lack of ambition and us pinching pennies.

It's almost like some would have been more satisfied had we signed Kabak for 8.5m instead of splurging on Konate.
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£8.5m is far far less than what we'd be able to sell him for in a couple of years time. It's completely brainless to not buy him. Our other defenders have horrific injury records or are just coming back from horrific injuries. There's no reason not to have bought him at that price. Well, except if you don't want to have unnecessary monies coming out of the club in the current financial year, because your actual goal is to keep the valuation of the club as high as possible for when you sell it. Kabak's future sale would therefore mean nothing to owners who have no intention of being here in that future, which is the only logical explanation for their moronic decision in the present.
 
dantes said:
£8.5m is far far less than what we'd be able to sell him for in a couple of years time. It's completely brainless to not buy him. Our other defenders have horrific injury records or are just coming back from horrific injuries. There's no reason not to have bought him at that price. Well, except if you don't want to have unnecessary monies coming out of the club in the current financial year, because your actual goal is to keep the valuation of the club as high as possible for when you sell it. Kabak's future sale would therefore mean nothing to owners who have no intention of being here in that future, which is the only logical explanation for their moronic decision in the present.
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Based on the information available to you
 
It’s a good thing Gini’s tenure at LFC was considered pants, otherwise I would be tad concerned we don’t seem rushed to replace a player who played around 50 games for us last season but there is time left.
Hendo’s injury record is getting more questionable, Millie’s a year older, Naby (enough said) and not sure Jones is capable of offerring the same across 50 games without his brain farts.
 
The reason I for one wanted us to sign Kabak, apart from the fact that he's the right standard and going for a relative song, is that too many of our primary options in that position are injury-prone. It may be that both Gomez and Matip will slip down the pecking order now that Konate's arrived, but last season showed pretty graphically how far down the list (and how quickly) we can be forced to go at times.
 
Mamma Mia said:
Based on the information available to you
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Putting aside the the issue of Kabak, based on the information available to us fans last season it was obvious that we needed to spend (more than we did) and we were proven right. Let's just call a spade a spade.

Let's hope that Klopp can squeeze another season or two out of this group but it's a real shame that we're squandering (enforced or not) our best platform for success in ages.
 
Mamma Mia said:
Based on the information available to you
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Oh yes, of course, there must be some hidden information we're not privy to, perhaps kabak is some sort of cunt whose ligaments are hanging on by a thread thanks to years of steroid abuse. Got it.
 
I don't mind us not buying Kabak if Phillips stays but if we sell Nat then all of our available centre backs have questions marks against them fitness wise. I'm assuming we'll send Rhys Williams out on loan so he doesn't count and Ben Davies doesn't count as I'm not sure he really exists.
 
keniget said:
Putting aside the the issue of Kabak, based on the information available to us fans last season it was obvious that we needed to spend (more than we did) and we were proven right. Let's just call a spade a spade.

Let's hope that Klopp can squeeze another season or two out of this group but it's a real shame that we're squandering (enforced or not) our best platform for success in ages.
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My point is that if Konate was never mentioned or signed, and we spent 8.5m on Kabak instead, there would be fewer complaints. Which seems dumb.
 
Sorry but I don't buy that. In that event we'd still be looking at injury-prone players as our most likely choices behind Virgil (whose own return to fitness is still untried).
 
Mamma Mia said:
My point is that if Konate was never mentioned or signed, and we spent 8.5m on Kabak instead, there would be fewer complaints. Which seems dumb.
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I don't think that's true at all.

Konate is hopefully the out and out first teamer that we need for the defence.

There is a general acceptance that we have no money to spend so the prospect of taking a pretty low risk gamble on someone like Kabak who could be used either to make a profit on or very cheaply improve the squad a year or two down the line seems to make sense.

The two are not related at all.
 
Woland said:
We should definitely have bought him for 8.5. That's bugger all in the scheme of things and he's not bad at all.
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Of course he'd have turned into an 8.5m player if we'd signed him. Now he will inevitably turn into a 35m player. Probably score a brace against us next season when we have Henderson and Rhys in defence.
 
I get the feeling we'll be expected to make up losses for this year and last before any significant change to approach. We had a pre-tax loss of £46m last year, and that'll likely be a bit higher this year. I'd actually say that isn't bad, all things considered, so I have to wonder what margins we're operating at if £100-120M loss in a couple of years can derail us so significantly? It seems like since project superbadidea fizzled out FSG are just looking to asset build for the eventual £multi-billion sale.
 
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