Transfer Rumours 21/22
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I have been wanting him for a while, there is bo debate to be had, even before he put on an england shirt i said he was world class, coz he was doing that shit against every team. I think the first time qe came up against them with Grealish in the team was the game we lost 7-2. Check the records. Also, i dont think 60M is actually enough
Yeah, he was. The current Madrid squad is similar to that of Barca's a few seasons ago, in new of renewal. They definitely need to avoid repeating mistakes like the Hazard signing. Interesting to see what he can do at a bigger club.
Conflicting reports elsewhere though
Liverpool Echo suggesting Ridle Baku as an option last month
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...pool-signing-three-transfer-problems-20538188
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...pool-signing-three-transfer-problems-20538188
Yep Grealish is a pipe dream for us as well as Arsenal...and that there is where LFC differs from the other 'rich' clubs....Sure we bought Allison and VVD for crazy money but that was because of the Coutinho deal, we don't buy those two without that money guaranteed. Hopefully, Edwards is doing his thang and can find the perfect creative midfielder.
But how much of this is also down to Klopp? Whilst Man city has around 23,000 creative ball dribbling attacking midfielders we have Keita (DM) as our response. I wonder if Klopp's ideology doesn't support the idea of a De Brunye, Foden, Grealish, Beudenia in the midfield 3 etc. Ever since Coutinho left Klopp has given lip service to the AMs we do have the likes of Ox, Shaq, Minamino have only played either as late subs, less important games or when he has had to due to injuries.
Its frustrating because as much as I love Thiago he isn't the final jigsaw piece in Klopp's tactics, getting a Grealish type would be for me as it would give those parked defences that we struggle against a new attack vector to worry about.
I can actually see him at the likes of Real Madrid. He is the type of player they like. It has to be said, unlike a Coutinho or even Keita, Grealish is a very hard working creative type. That England l, fuck me they were trying to knock him down constantly. If he played for us in against Everton, then given what they did to Thiago, I think with Grealish they would hire a military sniper in the crowd to kill him.
When you hear £50m plus for a player, just forget about it.
We cam 3rd despite missing a defence for most of the season.
I think we need FW like Daka, supposedly available for £17m
If someone buys Div, for £12m we have his 2/3 cost covered.
Mohammed Kudus, I am guessing we can get him for £20m or less. The box-box MF. The sale of Ox should cover that.
Daichi Kamada, £25m will probably get him
The sale of Kieta would cover him.
Michael Olise looks like a real talent supposedly available for £8m. The sale of Shaq should cover his cost
Don't tempt him.
Grealish is the English Coutinho. Not good enough to be a full-time playmaking no. 10 (no. 10s are kinda redundant now anyway) and not hard-working or defensively sound enough to be a full-time number 8. The only option left is to play him as a left-wing forward, but his goal return there is mediocre. For all his hype, he had a paltry 6 goals all season. 32 goals in 213 appearances for Villa. Is that the sort of return for a supposedly world-class attacking talent worth some 60-80 million? I'd understand it if he were an inexperienced 20 year old still developing. He's 26 - in the absolute prime of his career. He needs to be hitting 15-20 goals every year consistently to justify the hype he gets.
He's a good player, in the way Coutinho was a good player. Actually that's unfair on Coutinho because his end product really improved towards the end. Perhaps Grealish's will too once he joins a better team. But I'm struggling to see why he's rated SO highly.
He's a good player, in the way Coutinho was a good player. Actually that's unfair on Coutinho because his end product really improved towards the end. Perhaps Grealish's will too once he joins a better team. But I'm struggling to see why he's rated SO highly.
Simples. Because he’s English.
He gets oddly rated higher for sticking with Villa when they went down. I think he benefits from being the big fish in the small pond - everything at Villa goes through him. I think Villa would actually benefit from cashing in and getting in 2-3 talents in to share the load, and if that is what Buendia is part of then I think they'll be looking at a decent squad with the likes of him, Watkins, Traore etc.
6 goals is what our entire midfield combined (Henderson + Thiago + Curtis + Ox + Gini) scored last season, so I'm not sure how that is bad for a midfield player playing for Aston Villa? That and the fact that he was injured for a good part of the season.
6 goals and 10 assists in 26 appearances. No one from Liverpool had more than 7.
May be slightly overhyped but definitely a very potent attacking player
The most fouled player in the Prem by miles, far in excess of De Bruyne. So either he is Pele and carrying that Villa team on his own, or he’s that ball greedy little nob at 5-a-side on a Wednesday evening who is undeniably good, but is always thinking of himself first, and gets launched by the opposition whenever the opportunity presents itself
He 'wins' a lot of fouls, he has an uncanny knack of feeling the wind from the approaching player and falling forwards onto the ball just at the right moment.
He did it yesterday when he won the penalty. He ran into the opponent's legs. It's become a skill. They need to bring in a rule where if you go looking for the penalty, a la Kane and Grealish, it's not given.
That said, the refs these days can't cope with the basics, so baby steps.
But Grealish is good. There are question marks with his end product. But it might improve around better players.
That said, the refs these days can't cope with the basics, so baby steps.
But Grealish is good. There are question marks with his end product. But it might improve around better players.
His goals per game is about the same as Firmino for the 2 years he's been playing in the PL as a senior pro. That's despite being a midfielder and playing in a significantly worse team. If thats the return of mediocre attacking talent where does that leave Bobby?
Opposition fans would argue that Mane and Salah are in the same bracket. Just playing devils advocate here.
Yeah, Salah definitely. Mane has been hacked all season and gotten fuck all. God knows why like.
Not sure why Firmino is being brought in here?
Firmino is hitting 30 and nobody is disputing that his form has fallen off a cliff over the last 18 months. His goal return in that time has certainly been below average, and if that's the player Grealish is in his prime, well, that's not some world class attacking talent.
Firmino in his prime was hitting 15 goals a season for us and was one of the most relentless pressers in all of Europe, while being the perfect creative foil to two of the most prolific wing-forwards around in Salah and Mane.
Grealish's end product may improve in a better team certainly, but that remains to be seen.
Thought the exact same thing yesterday. He was looking for the foul and got. A modern day penalty as Sky calls it.
Kane, Rashford and Grealish are all experts when it comes to this horror show.
Grealish missed 12 leagues matches between Feb - May, that's about 1/3 of the season. Yet, his involvement in non-penalty goals and assists, chances created, ball progression stats are all very impressive and amongst the best.
I understand the theory of that, but when other teams have been in the PL for decades and spent accordingly, surely they have an almost insurmountable lead on Villa, even with such spending in such a short time frame?
Who exactly should they have done better than, of the teams ahead of them?
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