That's what I said ... Him leaving set the stage for what's happening today ...
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That's what I said ... Him leaving set the stage for what's happening today ...
His confidence is shot which probably doesn't help but at Liverpool we seemed to build our system aroung Torres to bring the most out of his game.
He hasn't had that luxury before or after his time with us I reckon.
Losing a yard of pace hasn't helped either,
Its a crying Shame we went and wasted 35 million of it on a donkey..
That certainly set us back a bit...
Lessons learned n all that...
It is even more kudos to Rodgers just how quick we have moved forward!!
That certainly set us back a bit...
Lessons learned n all that...
It is even more kudos to Rodgers just how quick we have moved forward!!
That. And While Torres had periods of brilliance he also had his lows, while I can't really remember any Suarez lows.
Suarez always gives 120% when he's playing while Torres is more calculated.
Also - Suarez has that pure simple love/passion for the game while Torres seemed to be more arrogant.
Suarez has been a leader for this team. Was Torres ever a leader?
I'll leave the rest to Carra 😉
He was also the main player for Atletico, wasn't he?
I though he played on the right for them with someone else being the main striker.
Their system may have been a bit different as well.
His goal scoring rate for them was nothing like it was for us.
I see what you're saying, but I don't agree. If that had been the case, surely we'd have been positively looking to ship him out some time before it actually happened, because (as far as I remember anyway) there were no particular injury concerns at the time he went.
Career-wise, it's true that Chelsea were doing a lot better than we were, but Torres himself became an overnight shadow of the player he had been. He may have bits of silver on his shelves at home, but he'll still be remembered as having hit the downhill trail the minute he left LFC.
My letter would say:
Dear Respected One,
GREETINGS TORRES,
I am Wumi Abdul; the only Daughter of late Mr and Mrs George Abdul. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan,the economic capital of Ivory Coast before he was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their outing to discus on a business deal. He left me his most dearest wish to give all of his savings, apart from my prophylactics endowment, to you, Torres. I need to then facilitate this wish in the speediest of periods. Please help me by:
1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.
2) To serve as the guardian of this since I am a girl of 26 years.
Moreover Sir, we are willing to offer you 15% of the sum as compensation for effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your designate account overseas. please feel free to contact ,me via this email address
wumi1000abdul@yahoo.com
Anticipating to hear from you soon.
Thanks and God Bless.
Best regards.
Miss Wumi Abdul
Plenty of people think we were.
Personally I've got no opinion on that either way, but I do think it's obvious that he hasn't been (and even at the time wasn't - remember the 2010 World Cup) the same player he was from 2007 to early 2010, and wouldn't have been no matter what happened. IMO that can only be attributed to a physical change - particularly given that the change carried over to his performances for Spain.
Surely any other explanation borders on the superstitious.
Who'd in there wildest imagination have thought we'd have signed someone with that money who went on to be even better/worth even more money?!
We've been so lucky we so of our signings in the best, Torres was a masterstroke, I don't even know how you'd quantify Suarez signing.
You keep peddling this line of argument that Torres only became bad the minute he left, but everyone knows he'd been shite for 18 months at that point, due to his knee.
The other thing I'm still amazed at is that people think we were buying Suarez to play with him. You have to be amazingly naive, particularly in light of our financial situation, to believe the delay in confirming the Suarez deal (which wasnt confirmed until Torres was sold) was really a paperwork delay, and not the much more obvious situation that one was paying for the other.
You might be right there - and I definitely agree that we intended to sell him that window - but personally not sure why FSG should be so against putting in money in January and so willing 6 months down the line. Doesn't make a huge amount of sense.
I remember how sick I felt watching him play that 1st game for Chelsea against us. It felt like an ex girlfriend snogging a fucking dickhead you know right in front of your face. Then of course Agger forearm smashed him and Liverpool won which made it all better again.
Steven Gerrard has always made strikers look good. From Michael Owen until Torres, no one left & hit the same levels as they did with him supplying slide rule through balls every week.
N Gog looks every bit as good at Swansea as he did here
We signed Suarez before Torres left I thought. Comolli has contradicted your theory several times fwiw
Ha. OK, stevies always made very good strikers look world class.
He struggles to make average strikers look anything more than slightly above average.
‘The way we looked at it we were selling two players, Fernando Torres and Ryan Babel, and we were bringing two in, Luis Suarez and Carroll, and we were making a profit and the wage bill was coming down as well. It was a four-player deal.'
We agreed a deal for Suarez before signing Torres, we did not complete the Suarez deal until deadline day when we knew Torres was sold.
We agreed a deal for Suarez before signing Torres, we did not complete the Suarez deal until deadline day when we knew Torres was sold.
[article]Suarez is the first major signing for Liverpool owners New England Sports Ventures (NESV) since it bought the club in October 2010.
But the news comes as Liverpool are on the brink of losing star striker Fernando Torres to Chelsea, who are working to seal a deal for the Spaniard before the January transfer window closes at 2300 GMT on Monday.[/article]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9377256.stm
Looks like Suarez papers were signed before Torres's, not that it matters. I'm sure he was a Torres replacement. Or was that Carroll?
But the news comes as Liverpool are on the brink of losing star striker Fernando Torres to Chelsea, who are working to seal a deal for the Spaniard before the January transfer window closes at 2300 GMT on Monday.[/article]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9377256.stm
Looks like Suarez papers were signed before Torres's, not that it matters. I'm sure he was a Torres replacement. Or was that Carroll?
They were done on the same day,.are you trying to tell me that because one was finalised before the other that must mean the plan was to play them together?
despite us agreeing a fee for Suarez two weeks earlier and citing mysterious paperwork as the cause of the delay. We were also in talks with Chelsea for ten days before we did that deal.
And despite every one saying Commoli was quoted as saying he wanted to pair them together,nobody has ever found that quote
In Macca's post above it is pretty clear that Suarez thought he would be playing with Torres. If you are right and Suarez was a replacement for Torres how come we signed Carroll? Oh ffs it really doesn't matter does it.
Go back and read it again, it's clear the journalist thinks that not Suarez
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