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Torres gone. Scum gone to more scum

Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43861.msg1268562#msg1268562 date=1296321769]
it's not that i *want* sturridge or kalou - i don't - but i still think they're worth £5m and we could just sell them in the summer if necessary. sturridge, for example, is imo a better player than ngog, so you could sell ngog for a few million and sturridge takes his place.

i'd prefer a straight £50m, but if a part-ex is needed to make the deal happen then i've got no problem with that.
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Exactly.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Seems to be rumours doing the rounds about Torres sacking his agent and withdrawing the transfer request. Probably bollocks
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

When Gerrard was tempted by Chelsea did he hand in an official transfer request?
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

According to Dunks article (not that I put any credence in it, but this bit is surely on the right track), he's due back this morning and then due at Melwood tomorrow afternoon, so we're unlikely to hear anything before then.

As upset and annoyed as I am, I'd still rather the outcome be that he stays. I couldn't really give a shit about the money.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43861.msg1268569#msg1268569 date=1296322253]
Seems to be rumours doing the rounds about Torres sacking his agent and withdrawing the transfer request. Probably bollocks
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Where are these from Hansern?
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43861.msg1268572#msg1268572 date=1296322425]
According to Dunks article (not that I put any credence in it, but this bit is surely on the right track), he's due back this morning and then due at Melwood tomorrow afternoon, so we're unlikely to hear anything before then.

As upset and annoyed as I am, I'd still rather the outcome be that he stays. I couldn't really give a shit about the money.
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Me too. According to the Times he's been in Spain for 3 days, and will return to training tomorrow. The entire squad got 3 days off after Fulham.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=ILD link=topic=43861.msg1268573#msg1268573 date=1296322483]
Where are these from Hansern?
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Read them on another site, Jim Boardman just tweeted that there is a text about this doing the rounds. He thinks it bollocks as there hasn't been an anouncement yet with such gigantic news.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Maybe I'm still in denial phase ... but there are a few straws out there to be clutched at ...
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

3 days off ?

So the people saying they spoke to him at Melwood were full of it ?

Nice.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=43861.msg1268583#msg1268583 date=1296323161]
Hmmm, i reckon taht could happen a second time.

Pay rise, bonuses one way or another and Torres may well stay.
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yeah he could still stay. he'll have to work hard to rebuild a relationship with his team mates as well as the fans.

To me, he's outed himself as a mercenary twat who knows how to say the right things.

I'm not in any hurry to forgive him.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Chan link=topic=43861.msg1268594#msg1268594 date=1296323922]
yeah he could still stay. he'll have to work hard to rebuild a relationship with his team mates as well as the fans.

To me, he's outed himself as a mercenary twat who knows how to say the right things.

I'm not in any hurry to forgive him.
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If he scores goals i doubt it'll be too much of a problem.

Either way, FSG will hold out for a better deal for the club if he goes than H & G ever would have.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Torres odds on to stay with Betfair and Stan James. Not much in it though, but even at evens that shows you this is still in the balance.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Fuck it. Either he stays, & we get his services for the rest of the season & 50m at least in the summer, or he goes now & we get 50m now.

It doesn't make too much difference, esp if we can get some players in quick sharp with that 50m
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

It has to be done tonight though if he's going, or else we won't have the time to get anyone in.
Anelka played today, so we're certainly not interested in him.

I'm guessing we've told them to do one in this transfer window, it just 2 days left.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43861.msg1268601#msg1268601 date=1296324348]
It has to be done tonight though if he's going, or else we won't have the time to get anyone in.
Anelka played today, so we're certainly not interested in him.

I'm guessing we've told them to do one in this transfer window, it just 2 days left.
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I think both those assumptions are somewhat flawed.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

Of all the acts or treachery carried out by Liverpool players, and I suppose in truth there have not been that many, this one seems to have plunged the dagger much nearer the heart than all the others.
I think the we hate you so much because we loved you so much banner for Figo sums things up.
He got it, he really did, or seemed to at least. The people, the City , the club, our likes our hates our little idiosyncrasies like worshipping over paid footballers in fact everything that made us tick, and seemed to actually be doing it, playing, for us, the fans - the people who loved him so much.

The traitor acted with stealth, sneaking around like a thief in the night with his accomplice. I knew there was something wrong when he scuttled down the tunnel, without acknowledging anyone, as soon as the whistle blew on Wednesday.

One of the issues that makes this so difficult to swallow is, as everyone has pointed out, is the timing. No one has been pleading for some support for him on the pitch, and as back up for him when he is on the treatment table, more than me , I have been obsessing about it for two years.
Within a few minutes of that being a reality, our dreams of Suarez and Torres wreaking havoc on opposition defences have been smashed into forty million little pieces. We have sympathised with him when having lumps kicked out of him ,with little protection, on his own up front, and we understood his frustrations, with mixed feelings, in the ability of some of his team mates to deliver the success he so obviously craves.

One of the saving graces of our other main traitors is that they have had the decency to fuck off abroad where we can avoid them for long periods of time, and scoff at their failures, from some distance, but to consider joining a club so obviously devoid of class is the final insult to those that did love him so much, and perhaps mistakenly in that love , cut him an awful lot of slack.

It's not like we were not expecting it, we were in the summer, and we probably were again this summer. However he did the right thing, obviously under some pressure, and agreed to give the new regime a chance, from his well used treatment table of course. "Fantastic" we all thought, and that relieved some of the gloom, albeit temporarily, perhaps it would have been better if he went then. Still we thought we would get this season out of him. We thought that was certainly going to be the case , when he blurted out how he was going to honour his contract, and so implying he was indeed the honourable young man we all thought he was.
We all started wetting our pants that the pursuit of Suarez and Adam in the January window ( a notoriously difficult window to deal in), went a long way to show Fernando FSG's ambition to improve our position, ultimately taking over from his as the club record purchase. If they do this now, I thought, what will happen in the summer...Whoo hoo.
If he was pissing of to Italy or Spain for £50 million I would not care that much, as I know with that money we could get someone more robust and reliable, and in all probability almost as good, as of course will be the case with the fraudsters Roubles....eventually .
If he does go to Chelsea to see him hugging Drogba, Terry and Ashley Cole would be nauseous.
It just seems like such a sickening kick in the guts, just when we were starting to get up and dust ourselves down, after being trampled on by everyone in the football world.
I still think there is more to it than him being tapped up, or just finally making the decision, but I am sure that will come out in the wash.

Short of him sacking his agent, blaming him for misguiding him, a grovelling apology for all the emotional upset, and signing a contract extension, or other revelations come to light where Liverpool have acted underhandedly , both as unlikely as each other..........there really is no way back and he will as from Friday evening be persona no grata. Et tu BruteFernando.

regards
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

I don't want to see a half-arsed Torres slopping about for the remainder of the season.

That to me is a whole lot worse than selling him for a pack of crisp.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=43861.msg1268612#msg1268612 date=1296324963]
Good post Vlad.

We hate you so much because we loved you so much. Brilliant.
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Ooohhhh that was the Barca fans that coined that one, but it does fit, people used it yesterday
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=43861.msg1268614#msg1268614 date=1296325008]
Well said vlad.
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You both stayed awake until the end then, I admire your fortitude 😉
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=43861.msg1268618#msg1268618 date=1296325214]
Ooohhhh that was the Barca fans that coined that one, but it does fit, people used it yesterday
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It fits perfectly though.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

hmm interesting..

Torres to sack his agent rumour is getting stronger and stronger. His reasons for transfer request, lack of activity in the transfer market and Liverpool's taking time to purse their targets, felt more broken promises on the horizon.

If thats true you could understand why he did what he did.. Transfer request would of been drawn up days before the announcement of the Suarez deal.
 
Re: Torres - Chelsea 35mil Bid turned down

[quote author=jono@home link=topic=43861.msg1268624#msg1268624 date=1296325502]
hmm interesting..

Torres to sack his agent rumour is getting stronger and stronger. His reasons for transfer request, lack of activity in the transfer market and Liverpool's taking time to purse their targets, felt more broken promises on the horizon.





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Aint true.
 
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