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[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230297#msg1230297 date=1291753018]
Are Tottenham on a quest to sign EVERYBODY?
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Did Harry have Lass at pompey or where they there at different times?
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I don't know if he bought him, but I think he sold him to Real. Harry likes to make a habit of buying players, selling them, moving on to another club, and then buying them again.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42930.msg1230300#msg1230300 date=1291754376]
I think Lass Diarra is a little overrated.
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Really?

I think he's excellent.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230334#msg1230334 date=1291758891]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=42930.msg1230320#msg1230320 date=1291756409]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230297#msg1230297 date=1291753018]
Are Tottenham on a quest to sign EVERYBODY?
[/quote]

Did Harry have Lass at pompey or where they there at different times?
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I don't know if he bought him, but I think he sold him to Real. Harry likes to make a habit of buying players, selling them, moving on to another club, and then buying them again.
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Tell me about it, at one stage I didn't know who Kaboul or O'Hara played for at that given point.
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=42930.msg1230348#msg1230348 date=1291760571]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230334#msg1230334 date=1291758891]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=42930.msg1230320#msg1230320 date=1291756409]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230297#msg1230297 date=1291753018]
Are Tottenham on a quest to sign EVERYBODY?
[/quote]

Did Harry have Lass at pompey or where they there at different times?
[/quote]

I don't know if he bought him, but I think he sold him to Real. Harry likes to make a habit of buying players, selling them, moving on to another club, and then buying them again.
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Tell me about it, at one stage I didn't know who Kaboul or O'Hara played for at that given point.
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I still don't know who O'Hara plays for.
 
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[quote author=ILD link=topic=42930.msg1230348#msg1230348 date=1291760571]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230334#msg1230334 date=1291758891]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=42930.msg1230320#msg1230320 date=1291756409]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230297#msg1230297 date=1291753018]
Are Tottenham on a quest to sign EVERYBODY?
[/quote]

Did Harry have Lass at pompey or where they there at different times?
[/quote]

I don't know if he bought him, but I think he sold him to Real. Harry likes to make a habit of buying players, selling them, moving on to another club, and then buying them again.
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Tell me about it, at one stage I didn't know who Kaboul or O'Hara played for at that given point.
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I still don't know who O'Hara plays for.
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Ha, I think he's back at Spurs now but out injured. Either that or at pompey.
 
Lass Diarra's career has "stalled" in some sense esp for his spell at Chelsea and Arsenal, hasn't it? He played almost half the number of games in 4 years compared to Lucas with us in 3 yrs. Not that it affected his development but if he'd had more games, on a regular basis, surely he'd benefit from it and possibly be even better?
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=42930.msg1230300#msg1230300 date=1291754376]
I think Lass Diarra is a little overrated.
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Me too.

Apart from when at Pompey he hasn't managed to hold down his spot has he?

I know he's otherwise only been at the biggest clubs around but still that doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=42930.msg1226531#msg1226531 date=1291122282]
Have to say to KHLs defence, William Kvist is a very good player. Watched a fair bit of FC Copenhagens CL matches and he has been very good. Stood out against Barcelona.
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Stood out again last night against Panathinaikos mate.

What's really strange about him is that 1½-year-ago he struggled to hold down his spot and was often played at RB. Now 18 months later he's winning back to back MOTM awards and is ready for the 1/8 in the Champions League as FC Copenhagens captain.

He's very clever on the ball and in his movement and he's picking the right pass 9 out of 10 times. If however he'll ever make it at the very top he should start chipping in more but can he keep up his current overall standards he could easily end up in a top club next Summer.

*Would be a far cheaper option than say M'Vila but on the other hand I'm not going to suggest that we should buy any more Danish central midfielders for the time beeing on these boards.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=42930.msg1230506#msg1230506 date=1291809134]
Don't worry, Kris..

You'll spot a top Danish CM someday ;D

Don't let Poulsen weigh you down.
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He is kind of heavy these days though....

🙂
 
0955: Everton, Newcastle and Tottenham head a shortlist of takeover targets for the Qatar royal family, who are looking to follow up on their success in landing the 2022 World Cup.
Full story: Goal.com

0910: Liverpool could pip Spurs to the signing of Ajax striker and captain Luis Suarez in January.
Full story: Metro

TRANSFER GOSSIP
Wolves boss Mick McCarthy wants Tottenham's Robbie Keane to make a sensational return to Molineux and fire the club to Premier League safety.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Blackburn manager Sam Allardyce could leave Ewood Park unless he is allowed to bid for targets such as Keane and former Rovers striker Roque Santa Cruz.


Liverpool are mulling over a move to sign Brazilian playmaker Ronaldinho from AC Milan, with Los Angeles Galaxy also interested in buying him at the end of the season.Full story: IM Scouting [/b]

West Ham are planning to lure Shaun Wright-Phillips from Manchester City in a cut-price deal in January. (Daily Star)

Man City have been encouraged to step up their interest in Benfica defender David Luiz after he indicated he would prefer a move to Eastlands over Chelsea.
Full story: Daily Mail

Juventus are prepared to let Momo Sissoko go to Aston Villa - but the Italian giants will demand £6m.
Full story: Daily Mail

Meanwhile, Villa and Wigan are both interested in out-of-favour Manchester United goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak.
Full story: talkSPORT

Blackpool goalkeeper Matt Gilks admits he may have to quit the club after talks over a new contract broke down.
Full story: Daily Mirror

West Ham and Bolton are both in the frame to land Real Madrid's out-of-favour midfielder Sergio Canales.
Full story: talkSPORT

Real Madrid are looking to sign Liverpool target and France midfielder Yann M'Vila, according to the Spanish press.
Full story: talkSPORT

Arsenal are closing in on a deal for Dinamo Zagreb's teenage full-back Sime Vrsaljko.
Full story: Daily Mail




OTHER GOSSIP
Martin Jol has ruled himself out of the running to become Newcastle manager because of his friendship with Chris Hughton, who was sacked from the job on Monday.
Full story: The Times (subscription required) Jol has been put off the job by the offer of a results-based contract and next to nothing to spend.
Full story: Daily Express

Jol's decision means former West Ham and Charlton boss Alan Pardew is likely to be named Magpies boss by the weekend.
Full story: Daily Mail

Newcastle top scorer Andy Carroll could lead a dressing room revolt over the club's decision to sack Hughton.
Full story: The Independent

Arsenal star Samir Nasri is to be rewarded for his brilliant form with a new five-year contract worth £21 million.
Full story: The S**

Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic could quit the club if he is shunted back out to right-back, the Serbia defender's agent has warned.
Full story: Daily Mail

Meanwhile, Ivanovic's Stamford Bridge team-mate Didier Drogba is expecting an emotional return to former club Marseille on Wednesday.
Full story: The Guardian

Spurs boss Harry Redknapp has once again distanced himself from stories linking him with the England manager's position.
Full story: talkSPORT

Former Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez admits he is in deep water at Inter Milan after crashing to a 3-0 Champions League defeat at Werder Bremen.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Les Murray, a Australian member of Fifa's ethics committee, has described the decision to award to the 2022 World Cup to Qatar as "lunacy".
Full story: The Times (subscription required)


AND FINALLY
Aston Villa fans have expressed their fury at manager Gerard Houllier over his "love-in" with his former club Liverpool at Anfield on Monday night. Supporters sent online messages to Villa director Charles Krulak complaining that the Frenchman ignored travelling fans but applauded the Kop after the match.
Full story: The S**
 
Suarez is a good player but mad as a hatter, wouldn't say no for the right price. I wonder if his cannibal thingy has affected Ajax's valuation of him?
 
Could Suarez be our Tevez? Fiesty, dynamic and an eye for goal. It's hard to judge players playing in the Dutch League but he looked good in the World Cup also. I'm on the fence with this link. Anyone want to put a case forward for him?
 
At first I didn't want him anywhere near Liverpool.

Then I changed my mind as he's a really impressive forward when on form.

But now I'm not so sure anymore. Again. The shoulder-biting, hand-balling twat he can be as well when things are getting tough doesn't bode to well. I know he's still young but he's really spending far to much energy on the less pretty parts of the game as well.
 
If his hand-balling meant we won a match I think I'd be ok with that.

I didn't really get what was the issue with his hand ball anyway.
 
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230553#msg1230553 date=1291815054]
If his hand-balling meant we won a match I think I'd be ok with that.

I didn't really get what was the issue with his hand ball anyway.

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If you were from Ghana you'd have a different look on the matter.

Pretty much the same as if you were Irish and had to watch Henry handball them out of the WC.

It's unsporting behaviour really and not in the right spirit of the game.
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42930.msg1230556#msg1230556 date=1291815250]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230553#msg1230553 date=1291815054]
If his hand-balling meant we won a match I think I'd be ok with that.

I didn't really get what was the issue with his hand ball anyway.

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If you were from Ghana you'd have a different look on the matter.

Pretty much the same as if you were Irish and had to watch Henry handball them out of the WC.

It's unsporting behaviour really and not in the right spirit of the game.
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It's way different from the Henry incident. Suarez got a red and they got a penalty, they had only themselves to blame for missing it.
 
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230557#msg1230557 date=1291815309]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42930.msg1230556#msg1230556 date=1291815250]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230553#msg1230553 date=1291815054]
If his hand-balling meant we won a match I think I'd be ok with that.

I didn't really get what was the issue with his hand ball anyway.

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If you were from Ghana you'd have a different look on the matter.

Pretty much the same as if you were Irish and had to watch Henry handball them out of the WC.

It's unsporting behaviour really and not in the right spirit of the game.
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It's way different from the Henry incident. Suarez got a red and they got a penalty, they had only themselves to blame for missing it.
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I know Suarez as such didn't get away with it like Henry did but it was still a matter of an outfield player acting like a goalie to prevent a goal.

Perhaps I'm a bit naive but I'd like players to at least show some respect towards the game. You can't really argue that Ghana missed out on a World Cup Semi-final because of this act of unfair play by Suarez. At the time I was disgusted by it to be honest.
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42930.msg1230558#msg1230558 date=1291815585]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230557#msg1230557 date=1291815309]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42930.msg1230556#msg1230556 date=1291815250]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230553#msg1230553 date=1291815054]
If his hand-balling meant we won a match I think I'd be ok with that.

I didn't really get what was the issue with his hand ball anyway.

[/quote]
If you were from Ghana you'd have a different look on the matter.

Pretty much the same as if you were Irish and had to watch Henry handball them out of the WC.

It's unsporting behaviour really and not in the right spirit of the game.
[/quote]

It's way different from the Henry incident. Suarez got a red and they got a penalty, they had only themselves to blame for missing it.
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I know Suarez as such didn't get away with it like Henry did but it was still a matter of an outfield player acting like a goalie to prevent a goal.

Perhaps I'm a bit naive but I'd like players to at least show some respect towards the game. You can't really argue that Ghana missed out on a World Cup Semi-final because of this act of unfair play by Suarez. At the time I was disgusted by it to be honest.
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He got punished by the rules, tactical fouls are part of the game like it or not. They missed out because Gyan bottled it.

Everyone was saying Konchesky should have taken red card by pulling Lennon down before he raced on to score the winner against us, wouldn't that have been just as unfair then?

e. and sorry for going way off topic here
 
Suarez stopped the goal. There was no doubt it was going in. Unless they awarded the goal AND sent Suarez off (not in the rules I know) it wasn't fair.

There's always a chance you'll miss a penalty. But the ball was 100% going in when Suarez handballed it.

I'd still take him, though. Oh and shock horror, Tottenham linked to another player with a pulse.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230561#msg1230561 date=1291816640]
Suarez stopped the goal. There was no doubt it was going in. Unless they awarded the goal AND sent Suarez off (not in the rules I know) it wasn't fair.

There's always a chance you'll miss a penalty. But the ball was 100% going in when Suarez handballed it.

I'd still take him, though. Oh and shock horror, Tottenham linked to another player with a pulse.
[/quote]

I just fail to see how it's different from any other foul like it? If a defender stops opponent getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. There is far less chance scoring from a free kick than from a one on one.
 
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230563#msg1230563 date=1291816860]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230561#msg1230561 date=1291816640]
Suarez stopped the goal. There was no doubt it was going in. Unless they awarded the goal AND sent Suarez off (not in the rules I know) it wasn't fair.

There's always a chance you'll miss a penalty. But the ball was 100% going in when Suarez handballed it.

I'd still take him, though. Oh and shock horror, Tottenham linked to another player with a pulse.
[/quote]

I just fail to see how it's different from any other foul like it? If a defender stops opponent getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. There is far less chance scoring from a free kick than from a one on one.
[/quote]

It's different, though, have you not seen it or something? The ball was about to hit the net. The ball was 100% going in, but there's always a chance you'll miss the penalty. It wasn't fair in the slightest.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230564#msg1230564 date=1291817039]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230563#msg1230563 date=1291816860]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230561#msg1230561 date=1291816640]
Suarez stopped the goal. There was no doubt it was going in. Unless they awarded the goal AND sent Suarez off (not in the rules I know) it wasn't fair.

There's always a chance you'll miss a penalty. But the ball was 100% going in when Suarez handballed it.

I'd still take him, though. Oh and shock horror, Tottenham linked to another player with a pulse.
[/quote]

I just fail to see how it's different from any other foul like it? If a defender stops opponent getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. There is far less chance scoring from a free kick than from a one on one.
[/quote]

It's different, though, have you not seen it or something? The ball was about to hit the net. The ball was 100% going in, but there's always a chance you'll miss the penalty. It wasn't fair in the slightest.
[/quote]

Yes I have seen it and I do see your point. But again if a defender stops opponent from getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. The difference between scoring a one on one or a free kick is even bigger than it is between getting a certain goal or a penalty.
 
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[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230564#msg1230564 date=1291817039]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230563#msg1230563 date=1291816860]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230561#msg1230561 date=1291816640]
Suarez stopped the goal. There was no doubt it was going in. Unless they awarded the goal AND sent Suarez off (not in the rules I know) it wasn't fair.

There's always a chance you'll miss a penalty. But the ball was 100% going in when Suarez handballed it.

I'd still take him, though. Oh and shock horror, Tottenham linked to another player with a pulse.
[/quote]

I just fail to see how it's different from any other foul like it? If a defender stops opponent getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. There is far less chance scoring from a free kick than from a one on one.
[/quote]

It's different, though, have you not seen it or something? The ball was about to hit the net. The ball was 100% going in, but there's always a chance you'll miss the penalty. It wasn't fair in the slightest.
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Yes I have seen it and I do see your point. But again if a defender stops opponent from getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. The difference between scoring a one on one or a free kick is even bigger than it is between getting a certain goal or a penalty.
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There's always a chance you'll miss the one on one, though. Quite a good chance. There was no chance this wasn't going in unless he handballed it or a seagull came and swooped the ball away.

A penalty is never a forgone conclusion, plenty of them are missed. Especially in the pressure situation Gyan faced. I don't see it as "their own fault they missed" at all. It was the biggest example of cheating in football I have ever seen. If it was allowable I would have just given the goal and sent Suarez off for gross misconduct or something.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230564#msg1230564 date=1291817039]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230563#msg1230563 date=1291816860]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230561#msg1230561 date=1291816640]
Suarez stopped the goal. There was no doubt it was going in. Unless they awarded the goal AND sent Suarez off (not in the rules I know) it wasn't fair.

There's always a chance you'll miss a penalty. But the ball was 100% going in when Suarez handballed it.

I'd still take him, though. Oh and shock horror, Tottenham linked to another player with a pulse.
[/quote]

I just fail to see how it's different from any other foul like it? If a defender stops opponent getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. There is far less chance scoring from a free kick than from a one on one.
[/quote]

It's different, though, have you not seen it or something? The ball was about to hit the net. The ball was 100% going in, but there's always a chance you'll miss the penalty. It wasn't fair in the slightest.
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i agree, but tbf it's not really suarez's fault - a lot of players would do the same - it's more that the rule is completely inadequate. in situations like that they should be using video technology to either award a goal directly, or at least effectively, perhaps by gving a PK with no goalkeeper involved, just a simple kick into an empty goal.

a red card wouldn't be needed then, it could be yellow instead. i've thought they've needed to change the rule since lucas had his derby-winning goal chalked off in 2007 by a phil neville handball: it was almost exactly the same situation, late in the game, and howard even nearly saved kuyt's penalty.
 
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230567#msg1230567 date=1291817511]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230564#msg1230564 date=1291817039]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230563#msg1230563 date=1291816860]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230561#msg1230561 date=1291816640]
Suarez stopped the goal. There was no doubt it was going in. Unless they awarded the goal AND sent Suarez off (not in the rules I know) it wasn't fair.

There's always a chance you'll miss a penalty. But the ball was 100% going in when Suarez handballed it.

I'd still take him, though. Oh and shock horror, Tottenham linked to another player with a pulse.
[/quote]

I just fail to see how it's different from any other foul like it? If a defender stops opponent getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. There is far less chance scoring from a free kick than from a one on one.
[/quote]

It's different, though, have you not seen it or something? The ball was about to hit the net. The ball was 100% going in, but there's always a chance you'll miss the penalty. It wasn't fair in the slightest.
[/quote]

Yes I have seen it and I do see your point. But again if a defender stops opponent from getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. The difference between scoring a one on one or a free kick is even bigger than it is between getting a certain goal or a penalty.
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I felt equally disgusted when Solskjaer ran over half a pitch only to hack down the Newcastle player clean-through on goal.
 
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=42930.msg1230570#msg1230570 date=1291817820]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230564#msg1230564 date=1291817039]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230563#msg1230563 date=1291816860]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230561#msg1230561 date=1291816640]
Suarez stopped the goal. There was no doubt it was going in. Unless they awarded the goal AND sent Suarez off (not in the rules I know) it wasn't fair.

There's always a chance you'll miss a penalty. But the ball was 100% going in when Suarez handballed it.

I'd still take him, though. Oh and shock horror, Tottenham linked to another player with a pulse.
[/quote]

I just fail to see how it's different from any other foul like it? If a defender stops opponent getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. There is far less chance scoring from a free kick than from a one on one.
[/quote]

It's different, though, have you not seen it or something? The ball was about to hit the net. The ball was 100% going in, but there's always a chance you'll miss the penalty. It wasn't fair in the slightest.
[/quote]


i agree, but tbf it's not really suarez's fault - a lot of players would do the same - it's more that the rule is completely inadequate. in situations like that they should be using video technology to either award a goal directly, or at least effectively, perhaps by gving a PK with no goalkeeper involved, just a simple kick into an empty goal.

a red card wouldn't be needed then, it could be yellow instead. i've thought they've needed to change the rule since lucas had his derby-winning goal chalked off in 2007 by a phil neville handball: it was almost exactly the same situation, late in the game, and howard even nearly saved kuyt's penalty.
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Oh I know, I don't blame Suarez at all. I can see why he did it. I just take exception to the view that "it was Ghana's own fault."
 
Solskjaer had a real nasty streak. I remember an appalling tackle on Sami once which put the big fella out for a few matches. No honour among Scandos, eh? 😉
 
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[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230564#msg1230564 date=1291817039]
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=42930.msg1230563#msg1230563 date=1291816860]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=42930.msg1230561#msg1230561 date=1291816640]
Suarez stopped the goal. There was no doubt it was going in. Unless they awarded the goal AND sent Suarez off (not in the rules I know) it wasn't fair.

There's always a chance you'll miss a penalty. But the ball was 100% going in when Suarez handballed it.

I'd still take him, though. Oh and shock horror, Tottenham linked to another player with a pulse.
[/quote]

I just fail to see how it's different from any other foul like it? If a defender stops opponent getting clean through he gets a red and they get a free kick. There is far less chance scoring from a free kick than from a one on one.
[/quote]

It's different, though, have you not seen it or something? The ball was about to hit the net. The ball was 100% going in, but there's always a chance you'll miss the penalty. It wasn't fair in the slightest.
[/quote]


i agree, but tbf it's not really suarez's fault - a lot of players would do the same - it's more that the rule is completely inadequate. in situations like that they should be using video technology to either award a goal directly, or at least effectively, perhaps by gving a PK with no goalkeeper involved, just a simple kick into an empty goal.

a red card wouldn't be needed then, it could be yellow instead. i've thought they've needed to change the rule since lucas had his derby-winning goal chalked off in 2007 by a phil neville handball: it was almost exactly the same situation, late in the game, and howard even nearly saved kuyt's penalty.
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Oh I know, I don't blame Suarez at all. I can see why he did it. I just take exception to the view that "it was Ghana's own fault."
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so do i mate. it's fucking ridiculously harsh.
 
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