Today's Matches (And Brave John Terry's Shit Hair)
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39082.msg1062129#msg1062129 date=1267410638]
Bar a few little comments here and there from Young and Petrov, there was no real concerted effort by Villa to have Vidic sent off.
You can be fucking certain that if it had been at the other end, that United would have surrounded the referee, Fergsuon would have been hopping up and down on the sideline, and the possibility of a red card would have increased ten-fold. People can say what they like about this tactic, and the way Terry and co entirely intimidate officials into making decisions but it fucking works.
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such tactics shouldn't have been needed for such a blatant sending off. there was no covering defender for fucking miles. dowd definately should to brought to book and villa should definately make a formal compliant. I'm not saying manu couldn't beat villa with 10 men but it would have been VERY difficult for them to do so.
Bar a few little comments here and there from Young and Petrov, there was no real concerted effort by Villa to have Vidic sent off.
You can be fucking certain that if it had been at the other end, that United would have surrounded the referee, Fergsuon would have been hopping up and down on the sideline, and the possibility of a red card would have increased ten-fold. People can say what they like about this tactic, and the way Terry and co entirely intimidate officials into making decisions but it fucking works.
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such tactics shouldn't have been needed for such a blatant sending off. there was no covering defender for fucking miles. dowd definately should to brought to book and villa should definately make a formal compliant. I'm not saying manu couldn't beat villa with 10 men but it would have been VERY difficult for them to do so.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39082.msg1062130#msg1062130 date=1267410737]
And another thing; why is that Wembley pitch so fucking shit?
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I think they stage the occasional Rugby League match there, also the NFL aim to play one game a year at Wembley but I agree it's not over-used.
And another thing; why is that Wembley pitch so fucking shit?
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I think they stage the occasional Rugby League match there, also the NFL aim to play one game a year at Wembley but I agree it's not over-used.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39082.msg1062132#msg1062132 date=1267411227]
Word also has it that Stephen Warnock will be released from hospital in the morning. Surgery to repair his torn arsehole went well apparently.
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Didn't catch all the highlights at all. How did he play? I noticed he was out of position for their first goal. He always had poor positional sense when he played for us.
Word also has it that Stephen Warnock will be released from hospital in the morning. Surgery to repair his torn arsehole went well apparently.
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Didn't catch all the highlights at all. How did he play? I noticed he was out of position for their first goal. He always had poor positional sense when he played for us.
He made one fantastic tackle, and then didn't get near him again. Valencia was outstanding.
poll says he wouldn't have give a red/yellow card to vidic either as the villa player was running away from goal.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39082.msg1062239#msg1062239 date=1267438935]
poll says he wouldn't have give a red/yellow card to vidic either as the villa player was running away from goal.
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Codswallop
poll says he wouldn't have give a red/yellow card to vidic either as the villa player was running away from goal.
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Codswallop
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39082.msg1062240#msg1062240 date=1267438995]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39082.msg1062239#msg1062239 date=1267438935]
poll says he wouldn't have give a red/yellow card to vidic either as the villa player was running away from goal.
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Codswallop
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exactly, but seeing as the guy once gave the same player 3 yellow cards in one game you have to take what he says with a pinch of salt.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39082.msg1062239#msg1062239 date=1267438935]
poll says he wouldn't have give a red/yellow card to vidic either as the villa player was running away from goal.
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Codswallop
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exactly, but seeing as the guy once gave the same player 3 yellow cards in one game you have to take what he says with a pinch of salt.
Poll probably would have booked the Villa player for diving
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39082.msg1062237#msg1062237 date=1267438573]
He made one fantastic tackle, and then didn't get near him again. Valencia was outstanding.
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Valencia is doing very well on the right for them. My united supporting friends are delighted with his contributions.
He made one fantastic tackle, and then didn't get near him again. Valencia was outstanding.
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Valencia is doing very well on the right for them. My united supporting friends are delighted with his contributions.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=39082.msg1062264#msg1062264 date=1267441419]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39082.msg1062237#msg1062237 date=1267438573]
He made one fantastic tackle, and then didn't get near him again. Valencia was outstanding.
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Valencia is doing very well on the right for them. My united supporting friends are delighted with his contributions.
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Yeah, I liked him at Wigan, too. I suppose Baconface knew it was unlikely that he could find an *exact* Ronaldo replacement, and certainly Valencia will never score anywhere near the amount of goals Ronaldo managed, but he's a very quick, skilful winger and Rooney is loving his crosses.
He's been a bright spot for them this season, along with Rooney.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39082.msg1062237#msg1062237 date=1267438573]
He made one fantastic tackle, and then didn't get near him again. Valencia was outstanding.
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Valencia is doing very well on the right for them. My united supporting friends are delighted with his contributions.
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Yeah, I liked him at Wigan, too. I suppose Baconface knew it was unlikely that he could find an *exact* Ronaldo replacement, and certainly Valencia will never score anywhere near the amount of goals Ronaldo managed, but he's a very quick, skilful winger and Rooney is loving his crosses.
He's been a bright spot for them this season, along with Rooney.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39082.msg1062239#msg1062239 date=1267438935]
poll says he wouldn't have give a red/yellow card to vidic either as the villa player was running away from goal.
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And he was another fucktard of a ref. I can't help feel the Villa players were just delighted to be awarded a peno after 5 mins, Dowd has just shit out of making a big decision after just seconds of a showpeice final. O'Neills reaction as it happened showed he thought it was red. I think if he was wearing a tracksuit instead of a suit and buttonhole he would have gone fucking ballistic.
poll says he wouldn't have give a red/yellow card to vidic either as the villa player was running away from goal.
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And he was another fucktard of a ref. I can't help feel the Villa players were just delighted to be awarded a peno after 5 mins, Dowd has just shit out of making a big decision after just seconds of a showpeice final. O'Neills reaction as it happened showed he thought it was red. I think if he was wearing a tracksuit instead of a suit and buttonhole he would have gone fucking ballistic.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39082.msg1062266#msg1062266 date=1267441728]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=39082.msg1062264#msg1062264 date=1267441419]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39082.msg1062237#msg1062237 date=1267438573]
He made one fantastic tackle, and then didn't get near him again. Valencia was outstanding.
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Valencia is doing very well on the right for them. My united supporting friends are delighted with his contributions.
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Yeah, I liked him at Wigan, too. I suppose Baconface knew it was unlikely that he could find an *exact* Ronaldo replacement, and certainly Valencia will never score anywhere near the amount of goals Ronaldo managed, but he's a very quick, skilful winger and Rooney is loving his crosses.
He's been a bright spot for them this season, along with Rooney.
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Yep, I liked his pace and power but wasn't impressed by his goal tally during his time at Wigan. I hoped his signing would be a huge anti climax and they would struggle to fill the void Ronaldo left but Valencia has added his own stamp to the team as a whole.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=39082.msg1062264#msg1062264 date=1267441419]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39082.msg1062237#msg1062237 date=1267438573]
He made one fantastic tackle, and then didn't get near him again. Valencia was outstanding.
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Valencia is doing very well on the right for them. My united supporting friends are delighted with his contributions.
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Yeah, I liked him at Wigan, too. I suppose Baconface knew it was unlikely that he could find an *exact* Ronaldo replacement, and certainly Valencia will never score anywhere near the amount of goals Ronaldo managed, but he's a very quick, skilful winger and Rooney is loving his crosses.
He's been a bright spot for them this season, along with Rooney.
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Yep, I liked his pace and power but wasn't impressed by his goal tally during his time at Wigan. I hoped his signing would be a huge anti climax and they would struggle to fill the void Ronaldo left but Valencia has added his own stamp to the team as a whole.
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=39082.msg1062279#msg1062279 date=1267443568]
The manc game scared me a little. The thought of Valencia getting loads of the ball to run at Insua is a nightmare.
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That is the tactic they employed last time. It was their only tactic to be fair. There was a few hairy moments in that game when Insua was isolated. I'm sure Fabio will have a babysitting duty if fit, if not Riera is a definite starter to assist Insua.
I remember this post from Ryan making me LOLZ.
The manc game scared me a little. The thought of Valencia getting loads of the ball to run at Insua is a nightmare.
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That is the tactic they employed last time. It was their only tactic to be fair. There was a few hairy moments in that game when Insua was isolated. I'm sure Fabio will have a babysitting duty if fit, if not Riera is a definite starter to assist Insua.
I remember this post from Ryan making me LOLZ.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39082.msg1061790#msg1061790 date=1267378117]
3 text messages from Mancs.
NOt as bad as I expected.
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I fear they're holding back till seasons end.
We're currently 6th a point behind Spurs and City (who have a game in hand). We're also 3 points ahead of Villa who have two games in hand.
I've gone from feeling quite confident two weeks ago to feeling very edgy about our final resting place this season.
I still think Villa will stumble again and the loss to the mancs may just knock the stuffing out of them for the run home. City, however, still look a hand ful and the performance against Chelsea may be just the morale boost they need to finish strongly.
I've said all season that Spurs look a different outfit this season and the Everton game was a case in point; if they were going to stumble this would have been the game IMO but they looked very good with Modric scoring a ripper.
Where I thought a fit Gerrard and Torres would ensure 4th for us I'm now beginning to think we need them both in all remaining games to have a chance. We're going to need someone else to stand up IMO during the next 10 games; Yossi, Kuyt...... Maxi? Maybe Aqua. With all these the common denominator is that Rafa needs to change things around. The only way Yossi or Maxi will make a difference is if they are given different positions on the pitch - ie. not the left. As for Aqua, well he will have to be on the pitch. At the moment the only player with a chance is Kuyt.
3 text messages from Mancs.
NOt as bad as I expected.
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I fear they're holding back till seasons end.
We're currently 6th a point behind Spurs and City (who have a game in hand). We're also 3 points ahead of Villa who have two games in hand.
I've gone from feeling quite confident two weeks ago to feeling very edgy about our final resting place this season.
I still think Villa will stumble again and the loss to the mancs may just knock the stuffing out of them for the run home. City, however, still look a hand ful and the performance against Chelsea may be just the morale boost they need to finish strongly.
I've said all season that Spurs look a different outfit this season and the Everton game was a case in point; if they were going to stumble this would have been the game IMO but they looked very good with Modric scoring a ripper.
Where I thought a fit Gerrard and Torres would ensure 4th for us I'm now beginning to think we need them both in all remaining games to have a chance. We're going to need someone else to stand up IMO during the next 10 games; Yossi, Kuyt...... Maxi? Maybe Aqua. With all these the common denominator is that Rafa needs to change things around. The only way Yossi or Maxi will make a difference is if they are given different positions on the pitch - ie. not the left. As for Aqua, well he will have to be on the pitch. At the moment the only player with a chance is Kuyt.
I seriously think the mancs need to worry about Arsenal
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=39082.msg1062430#msg1062430 date=1267459789]
I seriously think the mancs need to worry about Arsenal
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a little superstition the last time arsenal won the league they did the double on us. this season arsenal did the double on us.
I'd rather arsenal won the league than chelsea or manu altough I hate whinger with a passion.
I seriously think the mancs need to worry about Arsenal
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a little superstition the last time arsenal won the league they did the double on us. this season arsenal did the double on us.
I'd rather arsenal won the league than chelsea or manu altough I hate whinger with a passion.
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=39082.msg1062398#msg1062398 date=1267453395]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39082.msg1061790#msg1061790 date=1267378117]
3 text messages from Mancs.
NOt as bad as I expected.
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I fear they're holding back till seasons end.
We're currently 6th a point behind Spurs and City (who have a game in hand). We're also 3 points ahead of Villa who have two games in hand.
I've gone from feeling quite confident two weeks ago to feeling very edgy about our final resting place this season.
I still think Villa will stumble again and the loss to the mancs may just knock the stuffing out of them for the run home. City, however, still look a hand ful and the performance against Chelsea may be just the morale boost they need to finish strongly.
I've said all season that Spurs look a different outfit this season and the Everton game was a case in point; if they were going to stumble this would have been the game IMO but they looked very good with Modric scoring a ripper.
Where I thought a fit Gerrard and Torres would ensure 4th for us I'm now beginning to think we need them both in all remaining games to have a chance. We're going to need someone else to stand up IMO during the next 10 games; Yossi, Kuyt...... Maxi? Maybe Aqua. With all these the common denominator is that Rafa needs to change things around. The only way Yossi or Maxi will make a difference is if they are given different positions on the pitch - ie. not the left. As for Aqua, well he will have to be on the pitch. At the moment the only player with a chance is Kuyt.
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I didn't catch any of the first half Wiz but I watched some of the second and I really thought that Everton were going to get something out of the game. How Donovan missed that tap in from two yards I will never know.
Personally I think that City are the team most likely to beat us to forth. While, like you, I was feeling relatively confident that we would get forth spot, now I fear that the result for City against Chelsea will have a effect on them similar to us after to our win last season at Old trafford
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39082.msg1061790#msg1061790 date=1267378117]
3 text messages from Mancs.
NOt as bad as I expected.
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I fear they're holding back till seasons end.
We're currently 6th a point behind Spurs and City (who have a game in hand). We're also 3 points ahead of Villa who have two games in hand.
I've gone from feeling quite confident two weeks ago to feeling very edgy about our final resting place this season.
I still think Villa will stumble again and the loss to the mancs may just knock the stuffing out of them for the run home. City, however, still look a hand ful and the performance against Chelsea may be just the morale boost they need to finish strongly.
I've said all season that Spurs look a different outfit this season and the Everton game was a case in point; if they were going to stumble this would have been the game IMO but they looked very good with Modric scoring a ripper.
Where I thought a fit Gerrard and Torres would ensure 4th for us I'm now beginning to think we need them both in all remaining games to have a chance. We're going to need someone else to stand up IMO during the next 10 games; Yossi, Kuyt...... Maxi? Maybe Aqua. With all these the common denominator is that Rafa needs to change things around. The only way Yossi or Maxi will make a difference is if they are given different positions on the pitch - ie. not the left. As for Aqua, well he will have to be on the pitch. At the moment the only player with a chance is Kuyt.
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I didn't catch any of the first half Wiz but I watched some of the second and I really thought that Everton were going to get something out of the game. How Donovan missed that tap in from two yards I will never know.
Personally I think that City are the team most likely to beat us to forth. While, like you, I was feeling relatively confident that we would get forth spot, now I fear that the result for City against Chelsea will have a effect on them similar to us after to our win last season at Old trafford
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39082.msg1062428#msg1062428 date=1267458708]
Yeah, its going to be bad in May.
Though in all fairness we've gotten so used to mediocrity that it probably wont sting as much; which is why we have so many on here who believe we should be satisfied with 4th and 5th places.
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I'm not having that last bit Avvy. You're drawing a comparison with people who want Rafa to stay and being satisfied with 4th place. Show me any of the non loons who've said that?
In fact show me any non loon (Rafa lover or not) who believes we should be satisfied with 4th place. Your time starts now!
Yeah, its going to be bad in May.
Though in all fairness we've gotten so used to mediocrity that it probably wont sting as much; which is why we have so many on here who believe we should be satisfied with 4th and 5th places.
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I'm not having that last bit Avvy. You're drawing a comparison with people who want Rafa to stay and being satisfied with 4th place. Show me any of the non loons who've said that?
In fact show me any non loon (Rafa lover or not) who believes we should be satisfied with 4th place. Your time starts now!
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39082.msg1062130#msg1062130 date=1267410737]
And another thing; why is that Wembley pitch so fucking shit?
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And another thing; why is that Wembley pitch so fucking shit?
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[quote author=amber cabs link=topic=39082.msg1061332#msg1061332 date=1267316183]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=39082.msg1061278#msg1061278 date=1267307802]
Entertaining stuff from Barca tonight, although it'd be a little bit better if they actually finished some of these chances. Malaga are extremely lucky to still be on level terms.
It's been a bit of an awkward season for Barca so far. It was always going to be tough to follow up last years achievements, but that aside they've not been performing to their usual standards for long periods and it's been hard going at times.
I think they do miss the movement and pace that Eto'o gave them up front, whilst it hasn't helped that Ibrahimovic hasn't been great in the last couple of months.
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Small world. I was there too. Where were you sitting Cabs? There were some lads sitting behind where I was and one was a Liverpool fan from the sounds of it.
Was at the Barca game tonight and that was by far some of the best football I've ever seen live, I doubt I'll see a better goal than their 2nd tonight. Messi, Xavi and Pedro were all incredible to watch. The one thing I said after the game is that Ibra is the only player that looks out of place in that team...just too slow with his feet and mind. Eto'o was definitely more suited to their style of play imo
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=39082.msg1061278#msg1061278 date=1267307802]
Entertaining stuff from Barca tonight, although it'd be a little bit better if they actually finished some of these chances. Malaga are extremely lucky to still be on level terms.
It's been a bit of an awkward season for Barca so far. It was always going to be tough to follow up last years achievements, but that aside they've not been performing to their usual standards for long periods and it's been hard going at times.
I think they do miss the movement and pace that Eto'o gave them up front, whilst it hasn't helped that Ibrahimovic hasn't been great in the last couple of months.
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Small world. I was there too. Where were you sitting Cabs? There were some lads sitting behind where I was and one was a Liverpool fan from the sounds of it.
Was at the Barca game tonight and that was by far some of the best football I've ever seen live, I doubt I'll see a better goal than their 2nd tonight. Messi, Xavi and Pedro were all incredible to watch. The one thing I said after the game is that Ibra is the only player that looks out of place in that team...just too slow with his feet and mind. Eto'o was definitely more suited to their style of play imo
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[quote author=ILD link=topic=39082.msg1062264#msg1062264 date=1267441419]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39082.msg1062237#msg1062237 date=1267438573]
He made one fantastic tackle, and then didn't get near him again. Valencia was outstanding.
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Valencia is doing very well on the right for them. My united supporting friends are delighted with his contributions.
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Yeah, I liked him at Wigan, too. I suppose Baconface knew it was unlikely that he could find an *exact* Ronaldo replacement, and certainly Valencia will never score anywhere near the amount of goals Ronaldo managed, but he's a very quick, skilful winger and Rooney is loving his crosses.
He's been a bright spot for them this season, along with Rooney.
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I imagine Ferguson would have known that Rooney would contribute more without the team playing through Ronaldo. Still though losing 30 goals a season from the wing is hard for anyone to replace.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=39082.msg1062264#msg1062264 date=1267441419]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39082.msg1062237#msg1062237 date=1267438573]
He made one fantastic tackle, and then didn't get near him again. Valencia was outstanding.
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Valencia is doing very well on the right for them. My united supporting friends are delighted with his contributions.
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Yeah, I liked him at Wigan, too. I suppose Baconface knew it was unlikely that he could find an *exact* Ronaldo replacement, and certainly Valencia will never score anywhere near the amount of goals Ronaldo managed, but he's a very quick, skilful winger and Rooney is loving his crosses.
He's been a bright spot for them this season, along with Rooney.
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I imagine Ferguson would have known that Rooney would contribute more without the team playing through Ronaldo. Still though losing 30 goals a season from the wing is hard for anyone to replace.
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