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He's quite obviously better than Babel.
This years transfer thread.
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I'd prefer Defour.
PLEB.....
seriously though... I dont mind him but i think Maxi has x10 times better vision and game intelligence.
seriously though... I dont mind him but i think Maxi has x10 times better vision and game intelligence.
Yeah I don't get it either. We need LB and back up CF and the if Mascherano leaves a DM/CM so why bother signing a player to play where we have Cole, Kuyt, Maxi, Gerrard, Aquilani, Babel, Pacheco, Jovanovic already to play, not to mention Amoo and Ecclestone.
Don't need. Don't want.
Don't need. Don't want.
I'm sure we'll sign a striker. And a new LB. If we don't, then Hodgson isn't nearly as sensible and straightforward as I thought he was.
We won't sign a striker and the left-back option is some twat like Konchesky
Hodgson is hamstrung by having no cash, unless or until we sell Masher.
[quote author=Wilko link=topic=40305.msg1149846#msg1149846 date=1281128754]
My concern is the transfer funds received from sales before a takeover will be grabbed by the shite who know they're on the way out.
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How many teams actually pay everything upfront though, deals tend to be over 12/24 months nowadays don't they??
My concern is the transfer funds received from sales before a takeover will be grabbed by the shite who know they're on the way out.
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How many teams actually pay everything upfront though, deals tend to be over 12/24 months nowadays don't they??
Polusen agent expects Liverpool deal in days
The agent of Christian Poulsen says the Juventus midfielder is on his way to Liverpool.
Anfield boss Roy Hodgson is a big admirer of Poulsen and confirmed his interest in the defensive midfielder earlier this week.
Poulsen's representative, Jorn Bonnesen, has held talks with Liverpool over a possible deal and he is confident the move could be wrapped up next week.
"It won't take more than a week before this is sorted out." Bonnesen told Ekstra Bladet.
"It might be already in the beginning of next week. Christian Poulsen is Roy's man.
"He will be playing as defensive midfielder at Liverpool. I returned home with a good and positive impression."
The agent of Christian Poulsen says the Juventus midfielder is on his way to Liverpool.
Anfield boss Roy Hodgson is a big admirer of Poulsen and confirmed his interest in the defensive midfielder earlier this week.
Poulsen's representative, Jorn Bonnesen, has held talks with Liverpool over a possible deal and he is confident the move could be wrapped up next week.
"It won't take more than a week before this is sorted out." Bonnesen told Ekstra Bladet.
"It might be already in the beginning of next week. Christian Poulsen is Roy's man.
"He will be playing as defensive midfielder at Liverpool. I returned home with a good and positive impression."
According to reports in France, we've made a bid for Ben Arfa
Liverpool are considering a move for Marseille winger Hatem Ben Arfa as Roy Hodgson looks to secure some last minute additions to his squad before the Premier League season kicks off.
The speedy intelligent attacker has been linked with a loan move to Newcastle United in recent weeks but the Anfield boss is hoping to lure the 23 year old to Merseyside on a permanent deal.
The adaptable French international is rumoured to be surplus to requirements at the Stade Velodrome and Didier Deschamps is openly looking to offload the player either on a loan deal to help cut their wage bill in order to fund new additions or if possible on a permanent deal away from the Ligue 1 champions.
Roy Hodgson is looking for more creative attacking options ahead of the new season and is known to be an admirer of the former Lyon man and may well be lining up a significant bid for the £12m rated Clairefontaine graduate.
The skilful youngster is a great attacking weapon where his speed and trickery help to create a wealth of goals as well as being able to score crucial goals from midfield. Hatem just missed out on the French World Cup squad and is looking for a move that can help force himself into Laurent Blanc's thinking. He did manage to get himself into the upcoming squad but that is more to do with the fact that the World Cup squad have been suspended than any change in thinking in the FFF.
Hodgson may well feel that Ben Arfa would be more interested in moving permanently to the Premier League instead of accepting a loan deal at St James' Park and if the Merseyside club can find the funds for such a bid it may well prove a successful one.
Liverpool are considering a move for Marseille winger Hatem Ben Arfa as Roy Hodgson looks to secure some last minute additions to his squad before the Premier League season kicks off.
The speedy intelligent attacker has been linked with a loan move to Newcastle United in recent weeks but the Anfield boss is hoping to lure the 23 year old to Merseyside on a permanent deal.
The adaptable French international is rumoured to be surplus to requirements at the Stade Velodrome and Didier Deschamps is openly looking to offload the player either on a loan deal to help cut their wage bill in order to fund new additions or if possible on a permanent deal away from the Ligue 1 champions.
Roy Hodgson is looking for more creative attacking options ahead of the new season and is known to be an admirer of the former Lyon man and may well be lining up a significant bid for the £12m rated Clairefontaine graduate.
The skilful youngster is a great attacking weapon where his speed and trickery help to create a wealth of goals as well as being able to score crucial goals from midfield. Hatem just missed out on the French World Cup squad and is looking for a move that can help force himself into Laurent Blanc's thinking. He did manage to get himself into the upcoming squad but that is more to do with the fact that the World Cup squad have been suspended than any change in thinking in the FFF.
Hodgson may well feel that Ben Arfa would be more interested in moving permanently to the Premier League instead of accepting a loan deal at St James' Park and if the Merseyside club can find the funds for such a bid it may well prove a successful one.
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I really do not want Ben Arfa.
Lots of bad stories about him and he hasn't progressed in years.
Bit of a high-risk signing really.
Lots of bad stories about him and he hasn't progressed in years.
Bit of a high-risk signing really.
He's shit. And a nightmare of a person. I really don't believe Roy is interested. Especially as we've still got Babel as our obligatory 'enigma' player.
by Chris Bascombe, News of the World
Liverpool are in talks to re-sign Peter Crouch from Spurs.
The Merseysiders hope they can secure the 29-year-old for less than the £9million Spurs paid for him a year ago.
But negotiations have hit a snag as Harry Redknapp believes the England striker's value has increased over the last 12 months.
Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. If Spurs are prepared to listen to offers, the player is understood to be open to a return to Anfield, where he was a popular figure during his three-year spell.
Kop boss Roy Hodgson is a long-term admirer and tried to sign him for Fulham a year ago.
He's desperate for striking reinforcements, not only to deputise for Fernando Torres but to offer more variety in his squad.
Liverpool have no recognised target man in their ranks. Crouch, who joined Liverpool from Southampton for £7m in 2005, scored 40 goals in 132 appearances.
He never wanted to leave Anfield but was forced out by ex-boss Rafa Benitez.
His return would provide more encouragement on Merseyside following the capture of Joe Cole.
But with Spurs in the Champions League, boss Redknapp won't part with the forward cheaply.
Hodgson wants to build on a great week at Anfield. After guarantees Torres and Steven Gerrard will stay, he is certain of tying down Jamie Carragher to a new deal.
The 32-year-old will sign a minimum one-year contract extension in September, keeping him at Anfield until at least 2012.
Meanwhile....some more reason why the club needs to be sold asap
The delay in selling Liverpool FC is costing the club's American owners a staggering £2.5million a week.
Tom Hicks and George Gillett will see their huge debts increase to £282.4m by August 31 unless they sell the club.
That's a shocking rise of £45.4m since their last refinancing deal in April.
And that's why the duo are set to walk away with nothing when Chinese businessman Kenny Huang ends their reign.
Under the terms of an agreement with the Royal Bank of Scotland and Wells Fargo named 'Project Langworth', the owners' are accumulating escalating multi-million pound PIK fees - payments in kind - charged at a daily rate of 9 per cent per year from April 6, 2010.
The rates for borrowing money this way are far higher and riskier. Interest isn't paid annually. In this case, repayments are being triggered every fortnight and their weekly interest bill is a staggering £2.5m.
PIK fees are at the heart of what made the Glazers' Manchester United takeover so controversial, and explain why Hicks and Gillett are being forced out by the bank. It wasn't publicly known until now that Hicks and Gillett had such an agreement.
The refinancing of £110m of the Americans' debts was agreed following the refusal by Hicks and Gillett to sell a 40 per cent stake to New York-based Rhone Group. If the club doesn't change hands by next Sunday, Hicks and Gillett (below) will pay another £7.5m. Their debt will rise by another £7.5m on August 31.
On April 5, Kop Holdings owed £237m. On July 31, they owed £266.6m. On August 31, the figure will be £282.4m.
Weep
A Liverpool spokesman said: "This simply highlights why a sale is in everyone's interest."
Liverpool fans can only weep at the thought of how that £45.4m since April could have revamped their squad.
The financial implications of Hicks and Gillett refusing to accept their board's decision on who takes over are potentially catastrophic.
Despite this, they are privately resisting the £450m buy-out by Huang's QSL group because they won't make a penny on the deal - getting only enough money to clear their debts.
"There are people at Liverpool ready for the mother of all battles to get rid of them," a source told Sport of the World.
"But this is no false dawn. It's the endgame for Hicks and Gillett now."
A spokesman for Huang said: "All Kenny wants to do is close the deal and that's all he will be focused on for the next few days."
Huang will immediately pay off the debt. He must then commit £135.9m equity to start work on the Stanley Park stadium, and has promised a minimum £50m initial transfer kitty.
Liverpool are in talks to re-sign Peter Crouch from Spurs.
The Merseysiders hope they can secure the 29-year-old for less than the £9million Spurs paid for him a year ago.
But negotiations have hit a snag as Harry Redknapp believes the England striker's value has increased over the last 12 months.
Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. If Spurs are prepared to listen to offers, the player is understood to be open to a return to Anfield, where he was a popular figure during his three-year spell.
Kop boss Roy Hodgson is a long-term admirer and tried to sign him for Fulham a year ago.
He's desperate for striking reinforcements, not only to deputise for Fernando Torres but to offer more variety in his squad.
Liverpool have no recognised target man in their ranks. Crouch, who joined Liverpool from Southampton for £7m in 2005, scored 40 goals in 132 appearances.
He never wanted to leave Anfield but was forced out by ex-boss Rafa Benitez.
His return would provide more encouragement on Merseyside following the capture of Joe Cole.
But with Spurs in the Champions League, boss Redknapp won't part with the forward cheaply.
Hodgson wants to build on a great week at Anfield. After guarantees Torres and Steven Gerrard will stay, he is certain of tying down Jamie Carragher to a new deal.
The 32-year-old will sign a minimum one-year contract extension in September, keeping him at Anfield until at least 2012.
Meanwhile....some more reason why the club needs to be sold asap
The delay in selling Liverpool FC is costing the club's American owners a staggering £2.5million a week.
Tom Hicks and George Gillett will see their huge debts increase to £282.4m by August 31 unless they sell the club.
That's a shocking rise of £45.4m since their last refinancing deal in April.
And that's why the duo are set to walk away with nothing when Chinese businessman Kenny Huang ends their reign.
Under the terms of an agreement with the Royal Bank of Scotland and Wells Fargo named 'Project Langworth', the owners' are accumulating escalating multi-million pound PIK fees - payments in kind - charged at a daily rate of 9 per cent per year from April 6, 2010.
The rates for borrowing money this way are far higher and riskier. Interest isn't paid annually. In this case, repayments are being triggered every fortnight and their weekly interest bill is a staggering £2.5m.
PIK fees are at the heart of what made the Glazers' Manchester United takeover so controversial, and explain why Hicks and Gillett are being forced out by the bank. It wasn't publicly known until now that Hicks and Gillett had such an agreement.
The refinancing of £110m of the Americans' debts was agreed following the refusal by Hicks and Gillett to sell a 40 per cent stake to New York-based Rhone Group. If the club doesn't change hands by next Sunday, Hicks and Gillett (below) will pay another £7.5m. Their debt will rise by another £7.5m on August 31.
On April 5, Kop Holdings owed £237m. On July 31, they owed £266.6m. On August 31, the figure will be £282.4m.
Weep
A Liverpool spokesman said: "This simply highlights why a sale is in everyone's interest."
Liverpool fans can only weep at the thought of how that £45.4m since April could have revamped their squad.
The financial implications of Hicks and Gillett refusing to accept their board's decision on who takes over are potentially catastrophic.
Despite this, they are privately resisting the £450m buy-out by Huang's QSL group because they won't make a penny on the deal - getting only enough money to clear their debts.
"There are people at Liverpool ready for the mother of all battles to get rid of them," a source told Sport of the World.
"But this is no false dawn. It's the endgame for Hicks and Gillett now."
A spokesman for Huang said: "All Kenny wants to do is close the deal and that's all he will be focused on for the next few days."
Huang will immediately pay off the debt. He must then commit £135.9m equity to start work on the Stanley Park stadium, and has promised a minimum £50m initial transfer kitty.
Is it only me, or does that piece read as one 'I have no clue what the fuck' sentence after another?
"Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. " - No, we sold him to Spurs idiot. And Crouch left b/c he wanted 1st team appearances, which he wasn't getting in Rafa's 4-2-3-1 formation.
"Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. " - No, we sold him to Spurs idiot. And Crouch left b/c he wanted 1st team appearances, which he wasn't getting in Rafa's 4-2-3-1 formation.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=40305.msg1150287#msg1150287 date=1281218812]
Is it only me, or does that piece read as one 'I have no clue what the fuck' sentence after another?
"Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. " - No, we sold him to Spurs idiot. And Crouch left b/c he wanted 1st team appearances, which he wasn't getting in Rafa's 4-2-3-1 formation.
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No, we sold him to Pompey dude. Then we went on to Spurs.
Is it only me, or does that piece read as one 'I have no clue what the fuck' sentence after another?
"Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. " - No, we sold him to Spurs idiot. And Crouch left b/c he wanted 1st team appearances, which he wasn't getting in Rafa's 4-2-3-1 formation.
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No, we sold him to Pompey dude. Then we went on to Spurs.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=40305.msg1150293#msg1150293 date=1281219914]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=40305.msg1150287#msg1150287 date=1281218812]
Is it only me, or does that piece read as one 'I have no clue what the fuck' sentence after another?
"Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. " - No, we sold him to Spurs idiot. And Crouch left b/c he wanted 1st team appearances, which he wasn't getting in Rafa's 4-2-3-1 formation.
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No, we sold him to Pompey dude. Then we went on to Spurs.
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Really? FUCK, I am getting old ... Next thing you know I'll forget my wife's name ... 😉
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=40305.msg1150287#msg1150287 date=1281218812]
Is it only me, or does that piece read as one 'I have no clue what the fuck' sentence after another?
"Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. " - No, we sold him to Spurs idiot. And Crouch left b/c he wanted 1st team appearances, which he wasn't getting in Rafa's 4-2-3-1 formation.
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No, we sold him to Pompey dude. Then we went on to Spurs.
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Really? FUCK, I am getting old ... Next thing you know I'll forget my wife's name ... 😉
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40305.msg1150298#msg1150298 date=1281220397]
Nice guy and does have a reasonable scoring record, but unless we're played alongside a strike partner or wide-men with lessened defensive duties, his lack of mobility is a problem.
Is there no-one else?
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I'd say just spend 500k on Mphela - the South African lad.
Nice guy and does have a reasonable scoring record, but unless we're played alongside a strike partner or wide-men with lessened defensive duties, his lack of mobility is a problem.
Is there no-one else?
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I'd say just spend 500k on Mphela - the South African lad.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=40305.msg1150295#msg1150295 date=1281220162]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=40305.msg1150293#msg1150293 date=1281219914]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=40305.msg1150287#msg1150287 date=1281218812]
Is it only me, or does that piece read as one 'I have no clue what the fuck' sentence after another?
"Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. " - No, we sold him to Spurs idiot. And Crouch left b/c he wanted 1st team appearances, which he wasn't getting in Rafa's 4-2-3-1 formation.
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No, we sold him to Pompey dude. Then we went on to Spurs.
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Really? FUCK, I am getting old ... Next thing you know I'll forget my wife's name ... 😉
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Yup, bought for 7 million and sold for 12.
Though we used that to offset the 18 million Glen JOhnson fee.
Which was lucky since we'd probably not have seen a penny of the 12 million.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=40305.msg1150293#msg1150293 date=1281219914]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=40305.msg1150287#msg1150287 date=1281218812]
Is it only me, or does that piece read as one 'I have no clue what the fuck' sentence after another?
"Liverpool sold Crouch to Portsmouth two years ago for £8m and they've been regretting it ever since. " - No, we sold him to Spurs idiot. And Crouch left b/c he wanted 1st team appearances, which he wasn't getting in Rafa's 4-2-3-1 formation.
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No, we sold him to Pompey dude. Then we went on to Spurs.
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Really? FUCK, I am getting old ... Next thing you know I'll forget my wife's name ... 😉
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Yup, bought for 7 million and sold for 12.
Though we used that to offset the 18 million Glen JOhnson fee.
Which was lucky since we'd probably not have seen a penny of the 12 million.
Liverpool Leading Chase To Sign Manchester City Midfelder Shaun Wright-Phillips - Report
Liverpool seem to be beating Arsenal in the race to sign Manchester City winger Shaun Wright-Phillips, according to the Mirror.
Wright-Phillips is believed to have been told he can leave the City of Manchester stadium for a fee of around £7 million.
However Arsenal are thought to be unwilling to pay the £65,000-a-week wages he earns and now this has opened the door for Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson to make his move.
Hodgson is confident of signing Wright- Phillips after already persuading his former Chelsea team mate Joe Cole to join the Merseyside club ahead of the Emirates.
Wright-Phillips has already turned down City’s offer of a £10,000-a-week wage increase he was offered at the end of last season and his place has recently come under threat since the arrival of David Silva from Valencia and the imminent arrival of James Milner from Aston Villa.
Liverpool seem to be beating Arsenal in the race to sign Manchester City winger Shaun Wright-Phillips, according to the Mirror.
Wright-Phillips is believed to have been told he can leave the City of Manchester stadium for a fee of around £7 million.
However Arsenal are thought to be unwilling to pay the £65,000-a-week wages he earns and now this has opened the door for Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson to make his move.
Hodgson is confident of signing Wright- Phillips after already persuading his former Chelsea team mate Joe Cole to join the Merseyside club ahead of the Emirates.
Wright-Phillips has already turned down City’s offer of a £10,000-a-week wage increase he was offered at the end of last season and his place has recently come under threat since the arrival of David Silva from Valencia and the imminent arrival of James Milner from Aston Villa.
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I don't want Crouch back. If he wasn't happy to be Torres understudy 2 years ago, why would he want to do it now?
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It wasn't that so much as the fact that, when Torres was out injured or away with Spain, Crouchy still didn't get picked despite the fact that his goals-to-games ratio for us was about 1 in 2, way better than anybody who got picked ahead of him and by some distance the best in his club career. If he were convinced that he'd get a fair crack of the whip from Roy, I think he'd seriously consider coming back.
I don't want Crouch back. If he wasn't happy to be Torres understudy 2 years ago, why would he want to do it now?
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It wasn't that so much as the fact that, when Torres was out injured or away with Spain, Crouchy still didn't get picked despite the fact that his goals-to-games ratio for us was about 1 in 2, way better than anybody who got picked ahead of him and by some distance the best in his club career. If he were convinced that he'd get a fair crack of the whip from Roy, I think he'd seriously consider coming back.
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40305.msg1150412#msg1150412 date=1281265712]
[quote author=Chan link=topic=40305.msg1150302#msg1150302 date=1281221164]
I don't want Crouch back. If he wasn't happy to be Torres understudy 2 years ago, why would he want to do it now?
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It wasn't that so much as the fact that, when Torres was out injured or away with Spain, Crouchy still didn't get picked despite the fact that his goals-to-games ratio for us was about 1 in 2, way better than anybody who got picked ahead of him and by some distance the best in his club career. If he were convinced that he'd get a fair crack of the whip from Roy, I think he'd seriously consider coming back.
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Spot on
[quote author=Chan link=topic=40305.msg1150302#msg1150302 date=1281221164]
I don't want Crouch back. If he wasn't happy to be Torres understudy 2 years ago, why would he want to do it now?
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It wasn't that so much as the fact that, when Torres was out injured or away with Spain, Crouchy still didn't get picked despite the fact that his goals-to-games ratio for us was about 1 in 2, way better than anybody who got picked ahead of him and by some distance the best in his club career. If he were convinced that he'd get a fair crack of the whip from Roy, I think he'd seriously consider coming back.
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Spot on
Not sure how it finished, but certainly well into his Liverpool career his goals per games ratio was no better than Voronin's.
Plus I hate watching him play.
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Plus I hate watching him play.
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