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it's beautiful isn't it. Every minute of every scene is perfect and every single cast member is at their very best.
Did you know that the director closed the set in as filming went on to increase the sense of claustrophobia so by the end the jury room is about 6th smaller than at the start.
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Fucking hell, I didnt know that.

I love that film too.
 
Liverpool to unveil Hodgson this week

Published 20:00 29/06/10 By David Maddock

Roy Hodgson will be unveiled as the new Liverpool manager before the end of the week - with Kenny Dalglish's blessing.

The Anfield club are finalising arrangements with the Fulham boss, and hope to introduce him as the successor to Rafa Benitez on Thursday, the July 1 date first revealed by the Mirror when we exclusively told you Hodgson would get the job.

Dalglish had been mooted as a possible contender for the role, with suggestions that he would turn his back on the club should he be overlooked.

But the Anfield legend has indicated that he is no longer interested in the job and will back his close friend Hodgson, who he first recommended for the post.

And Dalglish could even expand his role with Liverpool, where he has been working as an ambassador for the past year.

The fans' idol is close to the current board and MD Christian Purslow in particular, and under the previous regime a role was envisaged which saw him act as a conduit between boardroom and manager, before Benitez blocked the idea.

The pair have been close since Hodgson's days as manager at Malmo in the 1980s, when Liverpool, under Dalglish, used to travel to Sweden for pre-season friendlies, and they have maintained a bond ever since.

Hodgson has agreed an initial two year deal worth around £2million a year, and Liverpool will pay his club Fulham a compensation figure in the region of £2m.

He will bring his Fulham coach Mike Kelly with him, but is also keen to utilise the experience of the staff that remain at the club following Benitez's departure, with the likes of assistant boss Sammy Lee, reserve team coach John McMahon and Academy director Frank McParland all set to stay on.

And Hodgson's first job will be to persuade some of the club's biggest name players to remain at Anfield amid continuing speculation that stars such as Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres have been targeted by Real Madrid and Barcelona.

There were rumours of a Madrid bid of £20m for Gerrard, but they are completely unfounded, and Liverpool simply wouldn't even countenance such an offer.

The club insist that none of their players are for sale, and - despite continuing speculation over finances - they are under no pressure to sell players.

Hodgson will be given around £12m in cash to spend, but will also be allowed to spend much of the revenue he generates in selling off some of the Anfield deadwood, just as Benitez did the previous summer.

The Spaniard had a war chest of more than £40m which he used to bring in record signings Glen Johnson and and Alberto Aquilani, and Hodgson could have even more by offloading the likes of Ryan Babel, Albert Riera, Yossi Benayoun, David Ngog and possibly even Aquilani.

He will also be faced with pressure from Javier Mascherano to sanction his sale, with the Argentina midfielder desperate to engineer a move out of Anfield for the past year.

And Hodgson may decide that, with Inter Milan and Barcelona both bidding for his services, he could be wise to cash in at a price of around £35m for a defensive midfielder, and spend some of the money on a talented replacement such as Lyon's Jeremy Toulalan, or either Lassana or Mahamadou Diarra of Real Madrid.

But the experienced coach knows that his first priority must be to keep Gerrard and Torres, and it seems that he may have made some progress in persuading the skipper to stay, with help for former Liverpool midfielder Danny Murphy.

Now captain at Fulham, Murphy has spoken with his close friend Gerrard to outline Hodgson's qualities as a manager, and endorse him for the Anfield role.

Speaking recently, Murphy raved about Hodgson when he said: "The manager doesn't sprinkle magic dust on us.

"The manager and his staff work damn hard to make sure the lads know their jobs. He does his research on players and the mentality of players who come into the club. He is a manager who organises his team well."

Gerrard has offered his backing to Hodgson, and while he still wants certain reassurances over future signings at Liverpool, he now seems more likely to stay given his approval for the new boss.

Torres too, has indicated that he is ready to give it another season at Anfield, to see if Hodgson can turn things around following the disappointment of last season, when Benitez lost the dressing.

Speaking yesterday for the first time about Benitez's departure, Torres insisted that the club did the right thing in looking for a new manager when he said: "At this point I think it was best for everyone that Benitez left the club.

He added: "They will tell us the situation after the World Cup. At the moment we don't have a coach, so we will wait and see what happens."

Torres will be targeted by Barcelona and Chelsea when his World Cup is over, but again Liverpool are not interested in a sale, and Hodgson hopes to demonstrate that his plans will allow for sufficient summer spending to bring in the new faces the team requires next season.
 
From the Fulham Chronicle...

Roy Hodgson close to Fulham exit
Jun 29 2010 By Jacob Murtagh

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ROY Hodgson is set to be named Liverpool manager by the end of the week.

The Fulham boss has been linked with the vacant Anfield hotseat ever since Rafa Benitez left the Reds earlier this summer.

Hodgson is also the hot favourite to succeed Fabio Capello if the FA part company with the Italian following a disastrous World Cup campaign.

Fulham have pulled out all the stops to keep him at Craven Cottage, but the lure of Liverpool seems too big to turn down for the 62-year-old.

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Someone on RAWK replied to the Maddock piece with this...

"Maybe it's time to put Maddock on our list."
 
Roy Hodgson: 'I don't believe in innovation'

Saturday, 2 May 2009

Roy Hodgson cuts an avuncular figure. With his courtesy, his considered, slightly old-fashioned mode of speech, he appears a gentle soul. Do not be fooled. The 61-year-old is as ambitious, as competitive, as any Premier League manager. Don't believe it? Ask him about the titles he won at Malmo.

"I am only credited with two championships when we won five," he said when the subject arose as we chatted in his neat office at Fulham's south-west London training base. The Swedish league had a play-off system, much like our rugby codes and the NFL do now. Malmo won five regular season titles, but lost in the play-offs three times.

"The play-offs always came when we were playing in Europe which meant we played three matches a week and the opposition had two weeks to prepare," said an indignant Hodgson. "It was ridiculous really, and what's more one year we lost on away goals, the following year we would have won on away goals but they had changed the rule and we lost on penalties. That's how ridiculous they were." It could be Mr. Ferguson speaking. And Hodgson was reprising events a quarter-century ago.

Since then Hodgson has rarely been out of work. He has managed in seven countries, won another league title, reached a European final and taken Switzerland to their first World Cup finals in 28 years and first European Championships ever, a feat he nearly matched in Finland. He has twice been considered for the post of England manager. Yet, due to ill-fated spells at Bristol City, in 1982, when they were heading for bankruptcy, and Blackburn, 15 years' later, when he raised expectations before being undone by injuries, his achievements have to an extent been overlooked in his native country. Until that is, he saved Fulham from relegation on the final day of last season, and steered them to the fringe of a place in the Europa League – the revamped Uefa Cup – defeating Arsenal and Manchester United en route. Suddenly Hodgson is regarded as a management guru. Does he finally feel recognised in his own land?

"No. I've never felt I needed to show people in England because I've always felt that most of the people who matter in England, the top football brass and the top managers, have been sufficiently impressed with what I have done abroad."

Hodgson has been in coaching for more than three decades, starting at the age of 28 at Halmstads, a Swedish provincial team he turned from relegation fodder to champions in his first season. During this period he has seen a lot of change but the fundamentals remain: "Can you coach? Can you earn the players' respect?" He adds: "The other things, they are bonuses: the scouting reports, fitness details et cetera. You could do away with a lot of that and be successful as long as you are able to use your time on the pitch wisely, and convince players this is what you have to do."

Fulham's training ground has frequent visitors, Hodgson recently hosted coaches from a Polish second division club even he had never heard of, but they do not come to see innovation. "I don't believe in innovation. There are those people who think that training sessions is having lots of different practices that change every five or 10 minutes. This is the last place to come for that. All of our work is done pretty much 11 v 11. They come because within the game there are people that recognise there is an element of organisation which is not obvious to everybody, and they think, 'hold on I wonder what they are doing to get that?'"

Fulham players testify to the repetitive nature of much of the session work, but have come to appreciate it works, the club punching so far above their weight Hodgson takes them to Chelsea today as the highest-placed English manager in the Premier League.

In some respects, he is "old school". "You have to be a benevolent dictator. You have to differentiate between areas of minor importance, such as when we travel and eat, and those of major importance such as: how we are going to play and practise? Who is taking the free-kicks? If you have democracy you get nowhere.

"There are areas, such as: do we travel in suits or track-suits, where I ask. That's not going to change the result, and I'm only democratic with the senior players. I don't want everyone's opinion. I might have one or two people I've identified as having no opinion worth listening to so I dismiss what they say out of hand.

"In areas where there is a bearing on the result of the game people expect the leader to lead. Initially they will respect the status you have been given but you have to get to a situation where they say, at least in their sane moments, 'well we don't like him, but he does lead us'".

Over the years he has also learnt about himself. At Malmo, he admits, he became carried away by the trappings of success, and credits his wife for restoring his humility and focus. He still radiates a confidence that he is good at what he does, but the ego is in check. Not that he suffers fools gladly, or time-wasting agents.

"That's [chief executive] Alistair Mackintosh's zone," he says happily. "My role is to try and identify the type of players we need and come up with some ideas on names. Alistair deals with the agent. He is much more diplomatic than I would be. We get all these agents saying their man would 'love to play for you, he's always loved Fulham football club'. What they are really saying is his wife wants to do a bit of shopping in Harrods. Once you've seen past that bullshit the next question is what sort of wages do you want. They um and ar, until you press them. Then you just say 'don't bother ringing Alistair, don't waste our time or yours'."

Hodgson worked the transfer market so wisely last summer that a European place is in prospect, but while tempted by the thought, he knows Fulham's squad, which has depended heavily on a core of 13 players this season, will be stretched.

It has also revived the possibility of his becoming England manager. "Being an international manager has a lot of advantages, not least you can live like a normal human being, and it would be nice to be mentioned again in connection with England" he notes. "But," he adds, "I think the real chance was either pre-Keegan or pre-Eriksson, if Fabio [Capello] continues to do as well as he is doing and fulfils his contract it will be three years down the line and the FA may well want a younger man."

You sense, though, that the fire that burns within Hodgson, as fiercely if not as obviously as it does within Ferguson, would relish such a chance to cap a remarkable career.

Jealousies, graveyards and burgers: What Hodgson learnt around the world

SCANDINAVIA

Sweden (Halmstads 1980-82; Orebro 1982-84; Malmo 1984-1990), Denmark (Copenhagen 2000-01), Norway (Viking Stavanger 2004-06), Finland (national team 2006-07).

"There's a good work ethic in the Nordic countries. The teams respond to being organised. Like the Americans, they think, 'This man is now our coach, he is going improve us. I'll listen to what he has to say.' I had no great problems with ego. There is a much greater acceptance of team-play."

SWITZERLAND

Xamax Neuchatel (1990-92), national side (1992-95), Grasshoppers Zurich (1999-2000).

"The major problem was dealing with the internecine jealousies that exist between the French, German and Italian speakers. The German majority considered themselves No 1. The French thought themselves culturally superior. The Italians felt they knew football best. Bringing them together was not easy and being foreign was a clear advantage."

ITALY

Internazionale (1995-97, 1999), Udinese (2001-02).

"Players need more mental strength in Italy than anywhere. Inter was all about success but every defeat was a funeral. I remember losing a pre-season friendly, Ronaldo's debut, to Barcelona. In England people would say, 'We played well and lost to a dodgy goal'. There it was, 'How can we lose? What does this mean for the season?' Inter was a graveyard for players."

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES

National side (2002-2004).

"A lot of what we were trying to do was not just new, it was earth-shattering. We ran it on quasi-military basis. We told them 'to succeed we have to be organised. If we are going to train at 10.30 we want you there at 10.30; if we say dinner at five, we want you down at five.' You might get everyone there, but at three minutes past, two were across the road to McDonald's. You can put a big fence around the hotel but half the poor bastards will starve to death."

My other life

With a lot of activities your thoughts still drift back to football, but literature can occupy your mind. I've read most books by Milan Kundera, John Updike, Philip Roth, some of them many times. I'm now reading Homecoming (right) by Bernard Schlink.

I also like travelling. I'm lucky in that my job has taken me places and I always try to get out of the hotel and see the churches and sights.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/roy-hodgson-i-dont-believe-in-innovation-1677575.html
 
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Someone on RAWK replied to the Maddock piece with this...

"Maybe it's time to put Maddock on our list."

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Really?! Fucking hell!

You get lynched for being positive now it seems. God forbid someone should say that Torres & gerrard aren't going, that kenny backs hodgson & is close to purslow, sorry the snake/rat!
 
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Someone on RAWK replied to the Maddock piece with this...

"Maybe it's time to put Maddock on our list."

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Really?! Fucking hell!

You get lynched for being positive now it seems. God forbid someone should say that Torres & gerrard aren't going, that kenny backs hodgson & is close to purslow, sorry the snake/rat!
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But everyone in the boardroom is out to strip our assets and dont care for the good of the club! How dare anyone say any different! And Kenny and Purslow are friends, I dont believe the King would keep such company, how could he do this to us, fuck it lets put him on our list...............................................................is what i can imagine those twats coming out with!
 
Whether you agree with the appointment or not, Hodgson provides the platform to move forward amicably, and get this club back on track.

Hopefully he'll surprise a few people.
 
ROY HODGSON will be officially named Liverpool’s new manager tomorrow (Wednesday).

The 62-year-old is due on Merseyside to complete the formalities of signing a contract after the Reds agreed a compensation package in the region of £2million with Fulham for his release.

Cordial negotiations have been ongoing in the past 72 hours between Liverpool’s Managing Director Christian Purslow and Fulham Chief Executive Alastair Mackintosh and they have now reached a successful conclusion.

Though Liverpool – who have remained tight-lipped throughout their search to replace Rafa Benitez – were linked with a clutch of names, Hodgson was always the number one candidate.

Other names in the frame included former Real Madrid boss Manuel Pellegrini, Galatasary’s Frank Rijkaard and Didier Deschamps of Marseille, while Kenny Dalglish also made it clear he was desperate to take the job on.

Dalglish had initially been named as part of the recruitment process but he was desperate to have a second crack at the post he occupied between 1985 and 1991 when he felt his claims were as strong as the other candidates.

The board, though, were anxious to pursue Hodgson and Liverpool will be his 16th job in a managerial career that has spanned almost 35 years.

His first post was with Swedish side Halmstads in 1976 and he enjoyed instant success, leading them to two Swedish titles; he would later coach Malmo after a brief stint with Bristol City.

Success in charge of the Swiss national team led to him being appointed Inter Milan manager in 1995 and the highlight of his time at the San Siro was an appearance in the 1997 UEFA Cup final appearance, which they lost on penalties to Schalke 04.

Hodgson’s first crack at the Premier League came later that year, when he took over at Blackburn, but things did not go according to plan at Ewood Park – despite qualifying for Europe, he was sacked in December 1998.


Roy Hodgson named as new Liverpool FC manager

Jun 30 2010 EXCLUSIVE by Dominic King
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Success in charge of the Swiss national team led to him being appointed Inter Milan manager in 1995 and the highlight of his time at the San Siro was an appearance in the 1997 UEFA Cup final appearance, which they lost on penalties to Schalke 04.

Hodgson’s first crack at the Premier League came later that year, when he took over at Blackburn, but things did not go according to plan at Ewood Park – despite qualifying for Europe, he was sacked in December 1998.

Stints with Udinese, the United Arab Emirates, Viking Stavanger and Finland followed before Fulham turned to him in December 2007 and he successfully led their battle to avoid the drop, which they did thanks to a last day with at Portsmouth.

After that, his time at Craven Cottage went from strength to strength and he enhanced his reputation while transforming Fulham’s fortunes, guiding them to their highest Premier League finish and an appearance in the Europa League final.

Now he has a fresh challenge and Hodgson, the LMA’s current Manager of the Year, will meet those Liverpool players who have not been at the World Cup tomorrow when they return for pre-season training.

It had been mooted that Hodgson, who is expected to bring his trusted assistant Mike Kelly with him to Anfield, would be favourite to become England manager if the Football Association decided to sack Fabio Capello.

However, it is understood the delay in Hodgson being appointed to his new role had nothing to do with him waiting to see what happened with England.

One of Hodgson’s first jobs at Anfield will be to ratify Yossi Benayoun’s move to Chelsea after the clubs agreed a fee in the region of £6m for the Israeli midfielder.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/06/30/roy-hodgson-named-as-new-liverpool-fc-manager-100252-26753865/2/
 
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Whether you agree with the appointment or not, Hodgson provides the platform to move forward amicably, and get this club back on track.

Hopefully he'll surprise a few people.
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Whether you agree with the appointment or not, Hodgson provides the platform to move forward amicably, and get this club back on track.

Hopefully he'll surprise a few people.
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Strange player, Zamora.

Unplayable six or seven times a season and then very average the rest of the time.

Not terrible back up for Torres I guess, but only if he's on the cheap.
 
Well, he is much better than anything we have apart from Torres obv.
He scored some cracking goals in that run.
I was being facetious as a lot of our football purists don't rate him surprisingly as his name ends in an A 😉

regards
 
This is going to be an interesting summer. I'm decidedly under whelmed by this appointment and with such a difficult opening spell to the new season, I wonder what kind of grace period he will be given.

Anyways good luck Roy.
 
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Someone on RAWK replied to the Maddock piece with this...

"Maybe it's time to put Maddock on our list."

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I didn't think it was possible (in fact I would have bet vast sums of money on it) but it would seem that my level of detest for that board has hit a new height.

I hope Purslow really is trying to get that cunt of a board shut down, and I hope he succeeds too.
 
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The Road To Hamburg - Fulham FC Europa League 09/10
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Should have been Frankie Valli's version IMO.


I think all things considered, it is the right appointment even if it isn't the best one. I believe under Hodgson we'll get the best football we've seen in some time out of the players, he will tighten our defence up a bit and will set us out to attack. I also think he'll bring a dignity and humility to the role of manager that hasn't been present in a very long time.

I believe he is being brought in with the ultimate intention of saving the owners money, both in wages and in terms of buying & selling, however I do think that it could eventually turn out to be one of the shrewdest signings in recent times.

Welcome to the club Roy. Good luck, and you'll never walk alone.
 
Roy's got class and balls. I'm confident he'll rise above the bitterness and strife and get us playing winning football again.

If he gets us back in the top 4 this season, I think you'd have to count that as a major achievement given the resources and current squads of our rivals and our own reduced circumstances.
 
I'll admit that I'm concerned about the immediate future of the club and wont be able to breath a sigh of relief until the club is sold. However I'm not completely deflated by Hodgson's appointment. I think as most people have said that he will bring a stability to the club and and will hopefully bring in some good english players that REALLY understand what it means to play for Liverpool. I think thats something that has been missing from our squad for awhile. Players with real fucking passion. Some of our current line-up just some so far detached from the club and what it means to the fans. I also feel he will be good for the youngsters, and will give them more of an opportunity to express their talents.
 
I don't think anyone is genuinely inspired by this appointment, so I can understand the negativity.

That said, I feel like being optimistic about something for a change (even if it is hard to justify)... everything about Liverpool has been so miserable lately... could do with a change.
 
ah well..

i guess i finally have to accept that he is the new manager..

I am happy because he will take away all the complex crap and have players motivated and confident. I am happy because he is English.. I am happy because Fulham played some magical football at times last year.

i am gutted because a year ago i would NEVER have even considered him to be LFC material. I dont think he can lure the very best to the club- i think the lack of champions league Football will contribute to that anyway. He is kinda old... which means we are likely to have to rebuild again in the near future...

Welcome to the club Roy.. i hope it works out.. i truely do. If players dont respect him an are being dicks.. i truely hope they get sold asap.
 
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