The Suarez/Evra Racism Row

[Oncy]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Awwww he looked proper cute coming off the bus sipping his drink there.

SIGHHHHH.

 

[gene hughes]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=Lewy link=topic=48021.msg1449512#msg1449512 date=1324495640]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=48021.msg1449508#msg1449508 date=1324495536]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=48021.msg1449496#msg1449496 date=1324495191]
The entire squad are warming up in t-shirts with Suarez name and number on the back.


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Even Suarez?
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he's dressed as evra, and the rest of the squad are chasing him around the pitch. its the kind of satirical dramatic performances that LFC are famed for
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I love this.

 

[doctor_mac]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=48021.msg1449533#msg1449533 date=1324496112]
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=48021.msg1449512#msg1449512 date=1324495640]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=48021.msg1449508#msg1449508 date=1324495536]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=48021.msg1449496#msg1449496 date=1324495191]
The entire squad are warming up in t-shirts with Suarez name and number on the back.


[/quote]

Even Suarez?
[/quote]

he's dressed as evra, and the rest of the squad are chasing him around the pitch. its the kind of satirical dramatic performances that LFC are famed for
[/quote]

I love this.
[/quote]

*puts his arm around Gene's shoulders*

See, told you it was better. Go on. Get in there and enjoy yersel ya scamp.

 

[King Binny]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=Binny link=topic=48021.msg1449515#msg1449515 date=1324495716]

Alejandro Balbi (L), the lawyer of Uruguayan footballer Luis Suarez, gives a press conference in Montevideo on December 21, 2011. England football team Liverpool reacted furiously after Luis Suarez was banned for eight games by the Football Association for racially abusing Manchester United's Patrice Evra and vowed to fight the verdict.

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Video of the press conference (in Spanish) here:
http://www.subrayado.com.uy/Site/News.aspx?NiD=7409

Translated article:

Suarez confirmed Balbi appeal and said that punishment is excessive
The lawyer said that Suarez is pained by the situation and just talk to the media when you file the appeal. Also showed a photo used as evidence


At a press conference, lawyer Alejandro Balbi said that according to British newspapers this is the most severe punishment has been applied to a player in the history of football in that country. And he said seems excessive.

It also showed the following picture of the player with a black child, taken at the World Cup in South Africa last year.

"Who can be branded as racist when you have a photo of this entity and this quality with a person of color? It is also public knowledge that he has been color co-National in the Netherlands and the Uruguayan team, which are personal friends of him, "added the lawyer.

Balbi said Suarez is quiet in the samples which received massive support of the club, coach, their peers, their captain, Steven Gerrard and the hobby in general.

He noted that the player was asked to announce that once the English lawyers submitted an appeal, he will contact the Uruguayan media for people to know their opinion about the case, it is quite affected.

 

[Oncy]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Is there ANY way we could shave Andy Carroll and stick a massive wig on Suarez and get Andy to take the ban?

 

[gene hughes]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

.[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=48021.msg1449546#msg1449546 date=1324496333]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=48021.msg1449533#msg1449533 date=1324496112]
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=48021.msg1449512#msg1449512 date=1324495640]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=48021.msg1449508#msg1449508 date=1324495536]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=48021.msg1449496#msg1449496 date=1324495191]
The entire squad are warming up in t-shirts with Suarez name and number on the back.


[/quote]

Even Suarez?
[/quote]

he's dressed as evra, and the rest of the squad are chasing him around the pitch. its the kind of satirical dramatic performances that LFC are famed for
[/quote]

I love this.
[/quote]

*puts his arm around Gene's shoulders*

See, told you it was better. Go on. Get in there and enjoy yersel ya scamp.
[/quote]

Yes, but I'm taking issue with you giving Fabio the credit, you whore's cunt of a bastard

 

[LadyRed]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Hahahha the guy in the second picture is actually holding up that picture of Suarez and the little black kid!

That's top drawer that

 

[King Binny]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Joint statement by the squad:

'Luis Suarez is our team-mate and our friend and as a group of players we are shocked and angered that he has been found guilty by the FA,' said a joint statement by the squad.

'We are a squad of many different nationalities and backgrounds. All of us support the club's commitment to fighting racism. All of us accept there is no place in the game for any form of discrimination.

'As a group of players we totally support the Kick it Out Campaign.

'We have lived, trained and played with Luis for almost 12 months and we don't recognise the way he has been portrayed.

'We will continue to support Luis through this difficult period, and as a popular and respected friend of all his team-mates, he will not walk alone."

 

[Oncy]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48021.msg1449556#msg1449556 date=1324496525]
Hahahha the guy in the second picture is actually holding up that picture of Suarez and the little black kid!

That's top drawer that
[/quote]Innit. Its the 'Ive got black friends' defence. Funneh as fuck.

 

[doctor_mac]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=48021.msg1449555#msg1449555 date=1324496511]
.[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=48021.msg1449546#msg1449546 date=1324496333]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=48021.msg1449533#msg1449533 date=1324496112]
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=48021.msg1449512#msg1449512 date=1324495640]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=48021.msg1449508#msg1449508 date=1324495536]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=48021.msg1449496#msg1449496 date=1324495191]
The entire squad are warming up in t-shirts with Suarez name and number on the back.


[/quote]

Even Suarez?
[/quote]

he's dressed as evra, and the rest of the squad are chasing him around the pitch. its the kind of satirical dramatic performances that LFC are famed for
[/quote]

I love this.
[/quote]

*puts his arm around Gene's shoulders*

See, told you it was better. Go on. Get in there and enjoy yersel ya scamp.
[/quote]

Yes, but I'm taking issue with you giving Fabio the credit, you whore's cunt of a bastard
[/quote]

He's watching you know. He'll shut this down quicker than a rat up a drainpipe. Now if you like it, I'd suggest you just mosey along.

 

[kingjulian]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Is it just me or has his lawyer spoken many racist words in one press release!!!

Ban him for 8 games as well...

 

[King Binny]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=48021.msg1449568#msg1449568 date=1324496717]
Is it just me or has his lawyer spoken many racist words in one press release!!!

Ban him for 8 games as well...
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Lol. Its translated, so blame the English. (Opps!)

 

[6TimesaRed]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

I would laugh my socks off if Suarez scores the FA premier leagues much coveted 20,000 goal tonight... Watch him donate 20k to some worthwhile charity that totally puts the FA to further shame

Sorry if this offends anyone btw, blame the missus just had a Brandy and Coke from her.. When I say Brandy and Coke I think it was a glass of Brandy with a splash of coke.. You know how it is.. on an empty stomach n all that...

 

[themn]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=48021.msg1449562#msg1449562 date=1324496632]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48021.msg1449556#msg1449556 date=1324496525]
Hahahha the guy in the second picture is actually holding up that picture of Suarez and the little black kid!

That's top drawer that
[/quote]Innit. Its the 'Ive got black friends' defence. Funneh as fuck.


[/quote]

*cracks same joke twice in 24hrs*

That's his grandad. Benjamin Suraez-Button.

 

[Athens]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=themn link=topic=48021.msg1449600#msg1449600 date=1324497544]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=48021.msg1449562#msg1449562 date=1324496632]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48021.msg1449556#msg1449556 date=1324496525]
Hahahha the guy in the second picture is actually holding up that picture of Suarez and the little black kid!

That's top drawer that
[/quote]Innit. Its the 'Ive got black friends' defence. Funneh as fuck.


[/quote]

*cracks same joke twice in 24hrs*

That's his grandad. Benjamin Suraez-Button.
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That made me lol out loud there. I didn't see it the first time.

 

[Dahuge]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Please tell me that lord ousley's comments on both are fake otherwise that is a disgrace.

 

[keniget]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

I don't think the FA have painted English football in a very good light here. Tim Vickery wrote a very good and balanced blog post about it on the BBC site. The ban is ridiculous and this whole affair was just about villifying a good player who does more than his fair share to make "The Best League In The World" worth watching. This coupled with the absurd cheat thing will end up hounding him out of the country. Oh well... another one will bite the dust for us.

 

[Jürgen4PM]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Suarez to Appeal

 

[Shadey]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=48021.msg1449823#msg1449823 date=1324501603]
Suarez to Appeal
[/quote] *like*

 

[Hansern]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Yep, this accordingto Luis agent/lawyer Balbi. Alsosays the only evidence is Evras statement.

 

[Jack D Rips]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=Dahuge link=topic=48021.msg1449677#msg1449677 date=1324499000]
Please tell me that lord ousley's comments on both are fake otherwise that is a disgrace.
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They are not true in relation to Terry

 

[justdoit]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8971768/Liverpool-face-Luis-Suarez-racism-row-dragging-on-until-late-in-the-season.html

The written judgment explaining the findings of the Independent Commission, which issued the severe punishment against the South American for racially abusing Manchester United defender Patrice Evra, is not likely to be published until mid-January.

Only when Liverpool have received the transcript from the chairman of the commission, Paul Goulding QC, can they consider whether to take further action. That is when the 14-day deadline to challenge the conclusions will be triggered.

The public debate on Suárez is so far based only on the verdict, not the evidence, which is why Liverpool believe Goulding needs to publish quickly. The FA did promise on Wednesday to print all details on its website when it eventually receives them from Goulding.

The possible one-month delay means the saga is certain to drag on towards the end of the season. It is inconceivable an appeal will not follow given the strength of feeling on Merseyside. However, Liverpool will then run the risk of seeing the ban extended even longer.

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Please tell me if I read it right? The written judgment will only be published mid-January? really?

2 days hearing you need 5 days to reach a verdict 3 weeks to write a judgment? really?

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Comical.

 

[Y1]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

I think this thread should merge with the locked thread to bring the depth of anger and the broad sweep of opinions, be it comical, personal insults and how some can or cannot handle disagreements.

Meanwhile though we lost 2 points, I am really pleased with the support of players and fans for Suarez, on top of Kenny & club's support. That is the way to go against injustice.

 

[King Binny]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Ian Wright:

WHEN the Luis Suarez race row took two months to reach a conclusion, the last thing I expected as the verdict came was another can of worms to burst open.

But ever since the Liverpool striker was handed an eight-game ban for racially abusing Patrice Evra, that's exactly what has happened.

What a mess it has become. Yet what an avoidable one it could have been had things been handled differently.

If Suarez is bang to rights then, yes, of course he should face a lengthy ban. Yet the way the Independent Disciplinary Commission — and subsequent FA statement — went about things has in many ways muddied the waters even more.

All we know so far is that Evra accused the Liverpool forward of racial abuse and the verdict has been reached on the back of that.

Clearly you would imagine there must be more to it than that — so why now does everyone have to wait until the written judgment is delivered for a full explanation? In my book, any grey areas could have been so easily avoided.

Any Merseyside calls of a witch-hunt would have been nipped in the bud. Instead, given the lack of public evidence regarding the exact details of the case, there is still a huge sense of mystery.

Surely it would have made more sense for the written proof, which everyone is waiting for, to have been published on the day of the verdict.

Whether people agreed with their findings would have been irrelevant.

The fact is that no one could argue over the clarity of the decision because the ins and outs would have been there for all to see.

The FA have admitted the written judgment, when it's delivered to Liverpool, will be made available in the public domain.

At that point, of course, we will discover their reasons for the eight-game ban. But we could have known that NOW if they had gone about things differently.

Now all we've got is another bout of name calling from Liverpool to the FA and it's not doing anybody any favours. As I said, if Suarez is guilty as charged, then some could say he is lucky to have escaped with the suspension he has.

But, at the moment, I have to say I think the punishment — on all public evidence — is ridiculously harsh because it was based only on what Patrice said he was called.

Look, I am all for racial abuse carrying the strongest possible punishment but, come on man, let's see that evidence.

All Tuesday's decision has done is give fuel to the sceptics who reckon the race card has been played here — and it's so stupid, so easily avoided.

Let's get one thing straight immediately. I am not calling Evra a liar, far from it, because something obviously went on.

But as it is, this could be said to have opened the way for any black player who might have an axe to grind to accuse others in a similar way — and that sets a very dangerous precedent indeed.

It has paved the way for any player to accuse another of anything.

I'm not for one second saying Patrice didn't have a legitimate case. I'm just worried about what less trustworthy players might get up to.

And I'm not going to stand here and say — on what we know so far — what should or shouldn't happen.

But if they have proof, then let's see it and let's see it now.

If there was TV evidence then tell us. Let us know how they reached that verdict at the same time they delivered it. We haven't seen any film of the incident. Perhaps that suggests there isn't any.

If Suarez is as guilty as the commission found then fine — he deserves his punishment.

But, for heaven's sake, let's see the proof because until that's out there, the rows will only get worse.

And the sad thing is they could have all been avoided in the first place.

 

[jimmy]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=Binny link=topic=48021.msg1450271#msg1450271 date=1324533115]


I'm not for one second saying Patrice didn't have a legitimate case. I'm just worried about what less trustworthy players might get up to.

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With the reputation Evra has made himself one might struggle to find less trustworthy players...

 

[King Binny]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48021.msg1449556#msg1449556 date=1324496525]
Hahahha the guy in the second picture is actually holding up that picture of Suarez and the little black kid!

That's top drawer that
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That young boy's turned famous overnight. :laugh:

(Guess John Terry's camp will be frantically searching for a similar one now.)

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

[quote author=justdoit link=topic=48021.msg1450226#msg1450226 date=1324512027]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8971768/Liverpool-face-Luis-Suarez-racism-row-dragging-on-until-late-in-the-season.html

The written judgment explaining the findings of the Independent Commission, which issued the severe punishment against the South American for racially abusing Manchester United defender Patrice Evra, is not likely to be published until mid-January.

Only when Liverpool have received the transcript from the chairman of the commission, Paul Goulding QC, can they consider whether to take further action. That is when the 14-day deadline to challenge the conclusions will be triggered.

The public debate on Suárez is so far based only on the verdict, not the evidence, which is why Liverpool believe Goulding needs to publish quickly. The FA did promise on Wednesday to print all details on its website when it eventually receives them from Goulding.

The possible one-month delay means the saga is certain to drag on towards the end of the season. It is inconceivable an appeal will not follow given the strength of feeling on Merseyside. However, Liverpool will then run the risk of seeing the ban extended even longer.

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Please tell me if I read it right? The written judgment will only be published mid-January? really?

2 days hearing you need 5 days to reach a verdict 3 weeks to write a judgment? really?
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They need to get the timing right so that the ban includes the Old Trafford game regardless whether we appeal or not.

 

[Hansern]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

Didnt Peter Schmeichel call Ian Wright a black bastard and get away with it?

 

[Hansern]

Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row (continued)

The Telegraph says it could take a month to get the written judgement, which means we cant appeal until the middle of january. How can they justify that? No evidence to hide behind?