The Suarez/Evra Racism Row
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*Weighs up the combatants before choosing sides for the Drinkies punch up*
This thread has got some serious legs...
How big was the Torres thread again?
How big was the Torres thread again?
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1449162#msg1449162 date=1324483403]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449150#msg1449150 date=1324482843]
Ah yeah, top post my arse
[/quote]Just ignore this silliness Anita.
The club have said that Evra was insulting to Suarez (in the most objectionable way) and we are being asked to believe that when he was being abused in the most objectionable way he just responded with a term of endearment back and wasnt in any way abusive to Evra...
Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!
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Don't be ridiculous. No one said it was a term of endearment it's clear they were winding each up. The question is whether it was a racist remark or not and subsequently whether Suarez is a racist. Evra and the FA have made something massive out of practically nothing here.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449150#msg1449150 date=1324482843]
Ah yeah, top post my arse
[/quote]Just ignore this silliness Anita.
The club have said that Evra was insulting to Suarez (in the most objectionable way) and we are being asked to believe that when he was being abused in the most objectionable way he just responded with a term of endearment back and wasnt in any way abusive to Evra...
Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!
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Don't be ridiculous. No one said it was a term of endearment it's clear they were winding each up. The question is whether it was a racist remark or not and subsequently whether Suarez is a racist. Evra and the FA have made something massive out of practically nothing here.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1449171#msg1449171 date=1324483836]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449149#msg1449149 date=1324482789]
No Sunny, I'm be 'failing to undertand' anything. If you'd bothered to read my posts you'd realise, that I haven't called Suarez a racist, not once.
I've also, on several occasions, acknowledged that the term may have different meanings but have then gone on to say I find it difficult to accept the in the given situation Suarez was intending to be anything but offensive.
In not part of any 'lynch mob', and don't come at me with that pissy arsehole tone
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He does it a lot lately.
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Fuck off Charlie you bellend
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449149#msg1449149 date=1324482789]
No Sunny, I'm be 'failing to undertand' anything. If you'd bothered to read my posts you'd realise, that I haven't called Suarez a racist, not once.
I've also, on several occasions, acknowledged that the term may have different meanings but have then gone on to say I find it difficult to accept the in the given situation Suarez was intending to be anything but offensive.
In not part of any 'lynch mob', and don't come at me with that pissy arsehole tone
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He does it a lot lately.
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Fuck off Charlie you bellend
[quote author=themn link=topic=47188.msg1449176#msg1449176 date=1324483904]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=47188.msg1449166#msg1449166 date=1324483575]
I nominate most of this thread for kneejerk post of the year.
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Shut it, you Oniony bastardo !
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Now THAT is anti vegans - they are being abused! How unbecoming.
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=47188.msg1449166#msg1449166 date=1324483575]
I nominate most of this thread for kneejerk post of the year.
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Shut it, you Oniony bastardo !
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Now THAT is anti vegans - they are being abused! How unbecoming.
Interesting how the wording means you can be banned for any abusive term, not just one with a racist connotation.
So are we gonna start seeing bans for calling players "cunt", telling the ref to "fuck off" etc?
So are we gonna start seeing bans for calling players "cunt", telling the ref to "fuck off" etc?
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=47188.msg1449179#msg1449179 date=1324483974]
*Weighs up the combatants before choosing sides for the Drinkies punch up*
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Choose my side mate, I'm bringing my tavor.
*Weighs up the combatants before choosing sides for the Drinkies punch up*
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Choose my side mate, I'm bringing my tavor.
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=47188.msg1449185#msg1449185 date=1324484079]
[quote author=themn link=topic=47188.msg1449176#msg1449176 date=1324483904]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=47188.msg1449166#msg1449166 date=1324483575]
I nominate most of this thread for kneejerk post of the year.
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Shut it, you Oniony bastardo !
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Now THAT is anti vegans - they are being abused! How unbecoming.
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But SO is discriminating against winter, spring and autumn onions. The bastard.
[quote author=themn link=topic=47188.msg1449176#msg1449176 date=1324483904]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=47188.msg1449166#msg1449166 date=1324483575]
I nominate most of this thread for kneejerk post of the year.
[/quote]
Shut it, you Oniony bastardo !
[/quote]
Now THAT is anti vegans - they are being abused! How unbecoming.
[/quote]
But SO is discriminating against winter, spring and autumn onions. The bastard.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1449170#msg1449170 date=1324483776]
I'm not going to react to your post the way I want to Andy. So I'll say that I find the fact you've mocked countless of people on this thread, and then get angry (with me, others) when it lights a fuse or people respond in kind, pathetic.
[/quote]React however you want Wiz. I dont care.
Im not angry with you at all. I think youre just one of the posters whos made a bit of a twat of themselves in this thread.
But i would never suggest you cant say to me whatever you think.
I'm not going to react to your post the way I want to Andy. So I'll say that I find the fact you've mocked countless of people on this thread, and then get angry (with me, others) when it lights a fuse or people respond in kind, pathetic.
[/quote]React however you want Wiz. I dont care.
Im not angry with you at all. I think youre just one of the posters whos made a bit of a twat of themselves in this thread.
But i would never suggest you cant say to me whatever you think.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1449162#msg1449162 date=1324483403]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449150#msg1449150 date=1324482843]
Ah yeah, top post my arse
[/quote]Just ignore this silliness Anita.
The club have said that Evra was insulting to Suarez (in the most objectionable way) and we are being asked to believe that when he was being abused in the most objectionable way he just responded with a term of endearment back and wasnt in any way abusive to Evra...
Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!
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This is surely also silly and based on assumption. Suarez strenuously denies using any racial term other than on one occasion which he admitted (and he didn't have to do that). I'm sure he wasn't passing the time of day with Evra, but he denies, and no-one else corroborates the idea, that he used racial language. He doesn't have to be telling Evra that he loves him Oncy.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449150#msg1449150 date=1324482843]
Ah yeah, top post my arse
[/quote]Just ignore this silliness Anita.
The club have said that Evra was insulting to Suarez (in the most objectionable way) and we are being asked to believe that when he was being abused in the most objectionable way he just responded with a term of endearment back and wasnt in any way abusive to Evra...
Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!
[/quote]
This is surely also silly and based on assumption. Suarez strenuously denies using any racial term other than on one occasion which he admitted (and he didn't have to do that). I'm sure he wasn't passing the time of day with Evra, but he denies, and no-one else corroborates the idea, that he used racial language. He doesn't have to be telling Evra that he loves him Oncy.
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Squiggles
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1449184#msg1449184 date=1324484070]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1449171#msg1449171 date=1324483836]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449149#msg1449149 date=1324482789]
No Sunny, I'm be 'failing to undertand' anything. If you'd bothered to read my posts you'd realise, that I haven't called Suarez a racist, not once.
I've also, on several occasions, acknowledged that the term may have different meanings but have then gone on to say I find it difficult to accept the in the given situation Suarez was intending to be anything but offensive.
In not part of any 'lynch mob', and don't come at me with that pissy arsehole tone
[/quote]
He does it a lot lately.
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Fuck off Charlie you bellend
[/quote]
So easy.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1449171#msg1449171 date=1324483836]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449149#msg1449149 date=1324482789]
No Sunny, I'm be 'failing to undertand' anything. If you'd bothered to read my posts you'd realise, that I haven't called Suarez a racist, not once.
I've also, on several occasions, acknowledged that the term may have different meanings but have then gone on to say I find it difficult to accept the in the given situation Suarez was intending to be anything but offensive.
In not part of any 'lynch mob', and don't come at me with that pissy arsehole tone
[/quote]
He does it a lot lately.
[/quote]
Fuck off Charlie you bellend
[/quote]
So easy.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449157#msg1449157 date=1324483209]
Stitched up?[/quote]
I just mean your comments were misrepresented. Also I added a hint of irony because Suarez has been to some extent stiched up here.
(And just for the record I do think that those conspiracies that it would happen to us etc and probably wouldn't have been Utd are fair enough - not that Fergie rules the world - but that a lot of people have it in for us and do lick Utd's arses)
Stitched up?[/quote]
I just mean your comments were misrepresented. Also I added a hint of irony because Suarez has been to some extent stiched up here.
(And just for the record I do think that those conspiracies that it would happen to us etc and probably wouldn't have been Utd are fair enough - not that Fergie rules the world - but that a lot of people have it in for us and do lick Utd's arses)
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=47188.msg1449178#msg1449178 date=1324483929]
8 match ban is ridiculous.
Cant wait to see what Terry's going to get.
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I suppose that if the magistrate's court should acquit Terry, the F.A. would find it difficult to lay charges against him themselves.
And I suppose the F.A. would be greatly relieved about this.
8 match ban is ridiculous.
Cant wait to see what Terry's going to get.
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I suppose that if the magistrate's court should acquit Terry, the F.A. would find it difficult to lay charges against him themselves.
And I suppose the F.A. would be greatly relieved about this.
and what came of Evra (allegedly) accusing the ref of booking him "because he's black"?
I realise that wasn't what he hearing was about, but it can't be ignored given the context surely?
I realise that wasn't what he hearing was about, but it can't be ignored given the context surely?
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=47188.msg1449185#msg1449185 date=1324484079]
[quote author=themn link=topic=47188.msg1449176#msg1449176 date=1324483904]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=47188.msg1449166#msg1449166 date=1324483575]
I nominate most of this thread for kneejerk post of the year.
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Shut it, you Oniony bastardo !
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Now THAT is anti vegans - they are being abused! How unbecoming.
[/quote]
But SO is discriminating against winter, spring and autumn onions. The bastard.
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throw the book at themn and tar and quarter him!
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=47188.msg1449185#msg1449185 date=1324484079]
[quote author=themn link=topic=47188.msg1449176#msg1449176 date=1324483904]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=47188.msg1449166#msg1449166 date=1324483575]
I nominate most of this thread for kneejerk post of the year.
[/quote]
Shut it, you Oniony bastardo !
[/quote]
Now THAT is anti vegans - they are being abused! How unbecoming.
[/quote]
But SO is discriminating against winter, spring and autumn onions. The bastard.
[/quote]
throw the book at themn and tar and quarter him!
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1449162#msg1449162 date=1324483403]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449150#msg1449150 date=1324482843]
Ah yeah, top post my arse
[/quote]Just ignore this silliness Anita.
The club have said that Evra was insulting to Suarez (in the most objectionable way) and we are being asked to believe that when he was being abused in the most objectionable way he just responded with a term of endearment back and wasnt in any way abusive to Evra...
Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!
[/quote]
He might well have been abusive to Evra but did he say anything that referred to Evra's race? Suarez denied saying "negro" in this exchange, and nobody else apart from Evra heard him say it.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449150#msg1449150 date=1324482843]
Ah yeah, top post my arse
[/quote]Just ignore this silliness Anita.
The club have said that Evra was insulting to Suarez (in the most objectionable way) and we are being asked to believe that when he was being abused in the most objectionable way he just responded with a term of endearment back and wasnt in any way abusive to Evra...
Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!
[/quote]
He might well have been abusive to Evra but did he say anything that referred to Evra's race? Suarez denied saying "negro" in this exchange, and nobody else apart from Evra heard him say it.
I'm still confused as to why Suarez only admitted saying a term once, where Evra heard it 10 times.
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1449170#msg1449170 date=1324483776]
I'm not going to react to your post the way I want to Andy. So I'll say that I find the fact you've mocked countless of people on this thread, and then get angry (with me, others) when it lights a fuse or people respond in kind, pathetic.
[/quote]React however you want Wiz. I dont care.
Im not angry with you at all. I think youre just one of the posters whos made a bit of a twat of themselves in this thread.
But i would never suggest you cant say to me whatever you think.
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I've got angry at people, and said some unnecessary things - but I apologized sincerely, unlike you and others on the 'other side.'
I don't think I've made myself look like a twat, but if I have - I'm happy to move on b/c frankly, I can't believe the attitude of many on this thread towards a person who's been accused of being racist (as I said from early on, I don't give two shits about the ban - this isn't about football for me).
Yours,
Twat
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1449170#msg1449170 date=1324483776]
I'm not going to react to your post the way I want to Andy. So I'll say that I find the fact you've mocked countless of people on this thread, and then get angry (with me, others) when it lights a fuse or people respond in kind, pathetic.
[/quote]React however you want Wiz. I dont care.
Im not angry with you at all. I think youre just one of the posters whos made a bit of a twat of themselves in this thread.
But i would never suggest you cant say to me whatever you think.
[/quote]
I've got angry at people, and said some unnecessary things - but I apologized sincerely, unlike you and others on the 'other side.'
I don't think I've made myself look like a twat, but if I have - I'm happy to move on b/c frankly, I can't believe the attitude of many on this thread towards a person who's been accused of being racist (as I said from early on, I don't give two shits about the ban - this isn't about football for me).
Yours,
Twat
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47188.msg1449204#msg1449204 date=1324484329]
I'm still confused as to why Suarez only admitted saying a term once, where Evra heard it 10 times.
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There's nothing inside his head, so it was really just an echo.
I'm still confused as to why Suarez only admitted saying a term once, where Evra heard it 10 times.
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There's nothing inside his head, so it was really just an echo.
So in other words the Kanagroo court can give him an 8 match ba and damage his reputation for the rest of his life witha rascist tag hanging over his head, and he's appeal Options are limited according to Friel. Is it not 2012, or is it still the 17th century in England? 3 man panel, watertight case regarding appeals, no options and can increase the ban if we do appeal. Slim possibility to take through the courts. Jeezeesss H Christ.
Im surprised that they're not taking him to Nottingham and dip him in water as part of the punishment to see if he's a witch aswell.
Im surprised that they're not taking him to Nottingham and dip him in water as part of the punishment to see if he's a witch aswell.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1449196#msg1449196 date=1324484214]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1449184#msg1449184 date=1324484070]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1449171#msg1449171 date=1324483836]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449149#msg1449149 date=1324482789]
No Sunny, I'm be 'failing to undertand' anything. If you'd bothered to read my posts you'd realise, that I haven't called Suarez a racist, not once.
I've also, on several occasions, acknowledged that the term may have different meanings but have then gone on to say I find it difficult to accept the in the given situation Suarez was intending to be anything but offensive.
In not part of any 'lynch mob', and don't come at me with that pissy arsehole tone
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He does it a lot lately.
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Fuck off Charlie you bellend
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So easy.
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Like breaking your smug arse jaw will be. Tara
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1449184#msg1449184 date=1324484070]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1449171#msg1449171 date=1324483836]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449149#msg1449149 date=1324482789]
No Sunny, I'm be 'failing to undertand' anything. If you'd bothered to read my posts you'd realise, that I haven't called Suarez a racist, not once.
I've also, on several occasions, acknowledged that the term may have different meanings but have then gone on to say I find it difficult to accept the in the given situation Suarez was intending to be anything but offensive.
In not part of any 'lynch mob', and don't come at me with that pissy arsehole tone
[/quote]
He does it a lot lately.
[/quote]
Fuck off Charlie you bellend
[/quote]
So easy.
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Like breaking your smug arse jaw will be. Tara
[quote author=themn link=topic=47188.msg1449176#msg1449176 date=1324483904]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=47188.msg1449166#msg1449166 date=1324483575]
I nominate most of this thread for kneejerk post of the year.
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Shut it, you Oniony bastardo !
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Onionist!
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=47188.msg1449166#msg1449166 date=1324483575]
I nominate most of this thread for kneejerk post of the year.
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Shut it, you Oniony bastardo !
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Onionist!
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1449177#msg1449177 date=1324483912]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1449169#msg1449169 date=1324483761]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1449162#msg1449162 date=1324483403]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449150#msg1449150 date=1324482843]
Ah yeah, top post my arse
[/quote]Just ignore this silliness Anita.
The club have said that Evra was insulting to Suarez (in the most objectionable way) and we are being asked to believe that when he was being abused in the most objectionable way he just responded with a term of endearment back and wasnt in any way abusive to Evra...
Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!
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Objection you honour.
I put it to you that the club said Suarez didnt hear the Evra comment.
Sustained
[/quote]I think maybe you need to read the club statement again.
Or dont. I couldnt care less to be honest.
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"We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult."
Is this the bit you mean?
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1449162#msg1449162 date=1324483403]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1449150#msg1449150 date=1324482843]
Ah yeah, top post my arse
[/quote]Just ignore this silliness Anita.
The club have said that Evra was insulting to Suarez (in the most objectionable way) and we are being asked to believe that when he was being abused in the most objectionable way he just responded with a term of endearment back and wasnt in any way abusive to Evra...
Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!
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Objection you honour.
I put it to you that the club said Suarez didnt hear the Evra comment.
Sustained
[/quote]I think maybe you need to read the club statement again.
Or dont. I couldnt care less to be honest.
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"We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult."
Is this the bit you mean?
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