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I've read about four different articles now, they all have something similar:
The club are considering an appeal, with the punishment suspended and Suárez free to play until the process is completed, and the wording of their statement makes it clear they will not contemplate taking their own disciplinary action against a player who is understood to have admitted calling his opponent a "negro".
"We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no one else on the field – including Evra's own team-mates and all the match officials – heard the alleged conversation between two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner-kick was about to be taken," the statement said.
This twoparagraphs are not compatible, either Suarez didn't make an admission or it's the two incidents being conflated and Suarez has denied one, admitted to using Negro in the other but claiming the cultural sensitivities defence.
I'm going to say this for about the 1000th time in this thread, to say there's a lack of evidence when Suarez has apparently made an admission is just not possible.
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This is the bit I take issue with. Calling him, in Spanish, "negro" is not the same as calling someone "a negro" in English. It is simply a slang word (masculine singular) derived from an adjective, the female would be "negra". Similarly my son often gets called "rubio" (blondie) and I get called "gordo" (fattie) so Suarez has effectively called him "Blackie" which is acceptable in his own mother tongue, and had been proven.
The FA are a bunch of arseholes .....
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No, the cultural sensitivities argument is bollox unless you're arguing Suarez should have had some. Think of the analogies that are possible and the ridiculous results that can be achieved by following it.
I gave the German example way back in the thread, what if a family from Pakistan living in the UK kill their daughter for shaming their family . How far do you think they'd get with the defence that honour killings are okay where they come from ?
Seriously, it's a piss weak argument.
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That's an altogether false analogy. Killing someone is worlds apart from aiming words at them. There's no misunderstanding a knife in the back.
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No country as far as I know accepts honour killing, at least not legally, even in Pakistan or anywhere in the middle east. It is more likely that the community will hush up the incidents rather than report them to the police.
