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The Suarez/Evra Racism Row

Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months, not 8 matches, and fined 50,000 quid. Perspective?

Different context of course, but to those who honestly think this is all Fergies work, I think you're ever so slightly mental.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1448436#msg1448436 date=1324424627]
Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months, not 8 matches, and fined 50,000 quid. Perspective?

Different context of course, but to those who honestly think this is all Fergies work, I think you're ever so slightly mental.
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Certainly not all ferguson's work, but if you think his hand wasnt in it somewhere then you are slightly mental.
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1448436#msg1448436 date=1324424627]
Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months, not 8 matches, and fined 50,000 quid. Perspective?

Different context of course, but to those who honestly think this is all Fergies work, I think you're ever so slightly mental.
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He's watching me. HE'S WATCHING ME! ARGH!
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1448436#msg1448436 date=1324424627]
Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months, not 8 matches, and fined 50,000 quid. Perspective?

Different context of course, but to those who honestly think this is all Fergies work, I think you're ever so slightly mental.
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Eh? He would have been banned for exactly the same amount of time I believe if he failed the drugs test, so the FA were hardly setting a precedent. Hacks me off what I hear Journo's bemoaning the fact - if the punishment had been different, nobody would give a urine sample if they were sampling.

This is a precedent. As were the Ziege and Mascherano cases.
 
Thank God Kenny is in charge. Really. Just imagine the horror of the Hodge.

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All I can say is that I am werry, werry, sorry for any hurt, or distress, or, er, vexation, that may have been caused to anyone close to Sir Alex and his werry grand and noble , er, band of brothers. I have made it werry clear to Luis that he is, as we say in this country,'Beyond the pale'. In Norway, where I have also managed, he would be termed, if I may language drop, "beyond the butter'. But let me put it another, dare I say, "literary" way. Saul Bellow, in Mr Sammler's Planet, observed: "Conquered people tend to be witty". And I must admit, at this moment, cradling this bottle of lovely red wine intended for Sir Alex, "I feel witty, so so witty, oh so witty and bright". But I cannot hide, or, er, dodge, or evade, the obligation I have to kneel before the world and beg forgiveness for this horrible South American's temper tantrum. Having travelled widely, I can assure you it's their problem, not ours, but they are here with us, these days, so we're stuck with them, but thank God we can trial them, fine them and ostracise them like the dogs they are. Which, incidentally, they eat. Dogs, that is. But I must apologise...[cont. page 12]
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1448436#msg1448436 date=1324424627]
Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months, not 8 matches, and fined 50,000 quid. Perspective?

Different context of course, but to those who honestly think this is all Fergies work, I think you're ever so slightly mental.
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Eh? He would have been banned for exactly the same amount of time I believe if he failed the drugs test, so the FA were hardly setting a precedent. Hacks me off what I hear Journo's bemoaning the fact - if the punishment had been different, nobody would give a urine sample if they were sampling.

This is a precedent. As were the Ziege and Mascherano cases.




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That's not my point, at all.
 
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[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1448440#msg1448440 date=1324424921]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=47188.msg1448436#msg1448436 date=1324424627]
Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months, not 8 matches, and fined 50,000 quid. Perspective?

Different context of course, but to those who honestly think this is all Fergies work, I think you're ever so slightly mental.
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He's watching me. HE'S WATCHING ME! ARGH!
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[/quote]I agree. Its fucking barking. And a bit fucking pathetic.
 
Gutted. So those who like Suarez convicted happy now? I find it utterly incomprehensible. Another football related depressive bout is going to start again! Justice, where is the justice?
 
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Gutted. So those who like Suarez convicted happy now? I find it utterly incomprehensible. Another football related depressive bout is going to start again! Justice, where is the justice?
[/quote]If you mean opposition defenders, I would guess they are very happy yes.
If you mean anyone on here. You are a penis.
 
Can't post the link from my phone but I see the Mirror are going to town on Saurez with the back page with Racist and a picture of Saurez way OTT considering the right of appeal and the actual charge by the FA
 
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=47188.msg1448450#msg1448450 date=1324425365]
Gutted. So those who like Suarez convicted happy now? I find it utterly incomprehensible. Another football related depressive bout is going to start again! Justice, where is the justice?
[/quote]If you mean opposition defenders, I would guess they are very happy yes.
If you mean anyone on here. You are a penis.
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I categorically deny I accuse anyone here but those who are guilty knows who they are! 😉
 
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=47188.msg1448450#msg1448450 date=1324425365]
Gutted. So those who like Suarez convicted happy now? I find it utterly incomprehensible. Another football related depressive bout is going to start again! Justice, where is the justice?
[/quote]If you mean opposition defenders, I would guess they are very happy yes.
If you mean anyone on here. You are a penis.
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Hahahha !
 
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=47188.msg1448450#msg1448450 date=1324425365]
Gutted. So those who like Suarez convicted happy now? I find it utterly incomprehensible. Another football related depressive bout is going to start again! Justice, where is the justice?
[/quote]If you mean opposition defenders, I would guess they are very happy yes.
If you mean anyone on here. You are a penis.
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Hahahha !
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Penis better than a c**t? 😵? 😉
 
I want written assurances that Macca ain't sharing that funny shit with other LFC forums.

Re Suarez: Fuck it, the club are standing behind him 100% We need to do the same.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47188.msg1448464#msg1448464 date=1324425907]
FA: Suarez is not a racist.

Tabloids: RACIST

Hmmmmm. Fucking typical.
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Reading the article below the headline, it's all about Liverpool accusing the FA. The headline doesn't represent the story, and is sensationalism at it's best. Suarez's lawyers could have a field day with that.

The Martin Lipton piece is typical of him:

Martin Lipton on Suarez's eight-game racism ban: The FA have acted with honour

The line in the sand was drawn. Clearly and irrevocably.

Racism is unacceptable in English football, no matter what the mitigation put forward.

For Luis Suarez and Liverpool - who have their own decisions to make - an eight-game ban was a decision at the worst end of their scale of possible outcomes and an appeal is almost certain.

Yet this was a landmark day for English football. A huge test of the FA machine.

And one, taking all club allegiances out of the equation, that they did not flunk.

Let there be no denying, either, that the Suarez case was a hugely tough one for the FA and the three-man commission asked to rule on nuance and culture as much as the facts.

That was why they deliberated over five days before reaching their decision on Tuesday, although it does appear that the biggest issue was over the sentence rather than the verdict.

There was, despite Evra’s allegations to Canal Plus after the October 15 match at Anfield, no video evidence to back up his claims that Suarez had abused him “at least 10 times”.

Nor did referee Andre Marriner take any action on the pitch, although it was clear he was warning the pair after a skirmish while they were awaiting a Liverpool corner in front of the Kop.

But Evra’s agitation was evident and Suarez’s apparent line of defence, that he was using a phrase which has different, more jocular connotations in South America - “like calling Dirk Kuyt 'Blondie'” - seemed risible.

Evra took the term used as outright racism and if it is perceived as such and deliberately repeated, it is hard to argue that Suarez was unaware of what he was saying or the way it was being taken.

It has to be remembered, too, that the Liverpool striker is not some ingenue, transported straight from his home in Montevideo into the mysterious and alien environment of Merseyside.

The striker spent four years at Ajax, in Amsterdam, in Holland, a country where the politicisation of race and racial issues has been a subject of deep and ongoing public debate. He cannot claim naivete.

In truth, too, the FA had to act, if only because they have been so swift to condemn racism directed at England players in overseas games, especially in Spain and Eastern European nations like Slovakia, Macedonia and Croatia.

The slovenly, cowardly and downright disgraceful attitude to those crimes of the larger governing bodies, UEFA and FIFA, also played a part.

Sepp Blatter’s outrageous suggestion that players on the receiving end of on-field racism should settle the matter with a handshake was met with disgusted disdain from all corners of the British game.

That was utterly unacceptable - for all the subsequent backsliding by the FIFA President - and the FA’s belligerent, determined and forthright response was both right and necessary.

But you cannot take such a public stance on these issues and seek to sweep the matter under the carpet when it takes place on your own doorstep.

And before Liverpool fans point a finger at John Terry and moan about “double standards”, how the Chelsea defender has received special treatment purely because he is England captain, they must recognise what has happened in these two cases.

FA disciplinary bosses planned to make a decision on whether to charge Terry over the allegations he racially abused Anton Ferdinand by November 3 only for that course of action to be taken out of their hands by the Metropolitan Police investigation.

Wembley chiefs now cannot do anything until the outcome of that potential legal case is known, which could take six months if a charge is levied - that decision is expected within the next 24 hours.

There was no such complaint over Suarez’ altercation with Evra, leaving the whole matter in the hands of the FA disciplinary beaks - who, you may surmise, might have been happier had this fallen into the province of the lawyers.

Instead, it fell to the FA, more specifically to Paul Goulding QC, former Stoke and West Brom boss Dennis Smith and Brian Jones of the Sheffield and Hallamshire FA, whose deliberations were long and detailed, aware that this was the case that would set the precedent for all future incidents to be judged against.

That benchmark has now been set.

Nobody, whether they come from Uruguay, Uzbekistan or Uttoxeter, can have any doubt over what the position is.

Quite how Liverpool now act with regard to Suarez is a different issue.

To this point, from Kenny Dalglish down, they have felt honour-bound to defend their man.

Inside Anfield, that stance may no longer be quite so easy to maintain.

For the FA, though, this was a major moment.

The men at the top may feel better about themselves.
 
If player a says he fucked player b's dead mum the night before the match and player B takes great umbrage to the insult and reports to the ref etc will player A receive similar ban to that which Suarez received ?

The FA seemed to have distanced the decision from race comments somewhat..
 
Its got nothing to do with Ferguson. Okay so his hatred of Liverpool is legendary and he's a spiteful cunt but he's not an idiot.

We are not a huge threat to him. Man City are. Now we won't have arguably our best player for the month when we play them 3 times. That is hardly going to suit Ferguson is it?
 
I feel so indignant. Now can every dark skinned person act agitated through out the game and start to accuse their opponents who take the mickey (football or words wise) out of them of racially abusing them afterwards?
 
On the one hand I'm angry and pissed off about this, on the other I'm glad that someone has finally put the nail in the coffin of my most incongruous pastime.
 
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