The Suarez/Evra Racism Row
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448330#msg1448330 date=1324419160]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=47188.msg1448320#msg1448320 date=1324418681]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448316#msg1448316 date=1324418613]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=47188.msg1448306#msg1448306 date=1324418193]
The problem now is that every cunt is going to abuse this ruling, you'll get players pulling the racist card left right and centre [/quote]
Except ours, of course.
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Point? I don't know where you're coming from with your posts in this thread Gene.
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Are you also worried that our players will start falsely accusing other people of racism, or is it just people from other clubs? If it's the former that makes sense, if it's the latter, then it doesn't and I shall pursue you on the issue.
Now pick up that sword!
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So it's ok for me to assume that EVERYONE will do it, but not ok to just assume that players of other clubs will do it? If the constant cheating and abuse of the rules from United is anything to go by, then I've got every reason to suspect the latter. Soz, if that's just me being paranoid though and creating conspiracy theories.
I'd like to think we've got a bit more about us in that respect. Who'd do it? Johnson? Suarez? Charlie Adam?! At the high end of the game there's a few cunts I could see doing it, one of them has seemingly just done it, again. If it's such a high profile offence, like anything in the game with a severe punishment, another player is bound to jump on it at some point.
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So you've gone from "every cunt" and "left, right and centre" to "another player is bound to jump on it at some point".
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448330#msg1448330 date=1324419160]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=47188.msg1448320#msg1448320 date=1324418681]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448316#msg1448316 date=1324418613]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=47188.msg1448306#msg1448306 date=1324418193]
The problem now is that every cunt is going to abuse this ruling, you'll get players pulling the racist card left right and centre [/quote]
Except ours, of course.
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Point? I don't know where you're coming from with your posts in this thread Gene.
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Are you also worried that our players will start falsely accusing other people of racism, or is it just people from other clubs? If it's the former that makes sense, if it's the latter, then it doesn't and I shall pursue you on the issue.
Now pick up that sword!
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So it's ok for me to assume that EVERYONE will do it, but not ok to just assume that players of other clubs will do it? If the constant cheating and abuse of the rules from United is anything to go by, then I've got every reason to suspect the latter. Soz, if that's just me being paranoid though and creating conspiracy theories.
I'd like to think we've got a bit more about us in that respect. Who'd do it? Johnson? Suarez? Charlie Adam?! At the high end of the game there's a few cunts I could see doing it, one of them has seemingly just done it, again. If it's such a high profile offence, like anything in the game with a severe punishment, another player is bound to jump on it at some point.
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So you've gone from "every cunt" and "left, right and centre" to "another player is bound to jump on it at some point".
Hey Dave - I thought you stayed out of the Football forum man? How can we keep you in here?
This thread has made me want to turn off football.
This thread has made me want to turn off football.
[quote author='Dave' link=topic=47188.msg1448358#msg1448358 date=1324420642]
Anita did you suffer a bang to the head over the summer?!
I swear your posts used to make sense... 🙂
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As long as Asim and Oncy get where I'm coming from, I'm reassured I'm on the right track
Anita did you suffer a bang to the head over the summer?!
I swear your posts used to make sense... 🙂
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As long as Asim and Oncy get where I'm coming from, I'm reassured I'm on the right track
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1448362#msg1448362 date=1324420877]
[quote author='Dave' link=topic=47188.msg1448358#msg1448358 date=1324420642]
Anita did you suffer a bang to the head over the summer?!
I swear your posts used to make sense... 🙂
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As long as Asim and Oncy get where I'm coming from, I'm reassured I'm on the right track
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the right track to where?
[quote author='Dave' link=topic=47188.msg1448358#msg1448358 date=1324420642]
Anita did you suffer a bang to the head over the summer?!
I swear your posts used to make sense... 🙂
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As long as Asim and Oncy get where I'm coming from, I'm reassured I'm on the right track
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the right track to where?
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[quote author=RedZeppelin link=topic=47188.msg1#msg1 date=1324416357]
See this is the confusing part ...are they saying they believe he didn't say anything at all which could be considered a racist insult or that potential he said something like 'negrito' but didn't mean it in a racist way . We really need more info to come out .
See this goes back to what i said earlier , surely he wasn't being charged with being a full blown racist , rather if in one situation he used a racist insult . But i guess it's about building character reference .
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It seems to me he probably said something (Negrito or what have you) that the club is convinced was used in a 'non-racial' context.
The FA statement says he made a remark about Evra's color, which racist intent or otherwise, Negrito does. It's a fine line, but they've chosen to make it about 'color' rather than race. They are different if you want to be picky.
See this is the confusing part ...are they saying they believe he didn't say anything at all which could be considered a racist insult or that potential he said something like 'negrito' but didn't mean it in a racist way . We really need more info to come out .
See this goes back to what i said earlier , surely he wasn't being charged with being a full blown racist , rather if in one situation he used a racist insult . But i guess it's about building character reference .
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It seems to me he probably said something (Negrito or what have you) that the club is convinced was used in a 'non-racial' context.
The FA statement says he made a remark about Evra's color, which racist intent or otherwise, Negrito does. It's a fine line, but they've chosen to make it about 'color' rather than race. They are different if you want to be picky.
"It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'.
"The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.
"We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms.
"Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult."
The FA say he is not Racist, Evra says he is not racist, why are some of you saying he IS racist?
Actually the only person that admitted making an abusive remark was Evra, but the FA have let it slip under the net ......
"The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.
"We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms.
"Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult."
The FA say he is not Racist, Evra says he is not racist, why are some of you saying he IS racist?
Actually the only person that admitted making an abusive remark was Evra, but the FA have let it slip under the net ......
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448361#msg1448361 date=1324420834]
Hey Dave - I thought you stayed out of the Football forum man? How can we keep you in here?
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The General section has gone shit
Also, the tension in this thread is like this forum has never seen. normally its like mass mob v mong (fox etc..) but this is a much more even and there for intresting. Its really great.
Hey Dave - I thought you stayed out of the Football forum man? How can we keep you in here?
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The General section has gone shit
Also, the tension in this thread is like this forum has never seen. normally its like mass mob v mong (fox etc..) but this is a much more even and there for intresting. Its really great.
where is fox anyway?
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1448302#msg1448302 date=1324418072]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=47188.msg1448294#msg1448294 date=1324417918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1448283#msg1448283 date=1324417604]
Ultimately it boils down to this.
They had an argument.
Evra said he was racially abused.
Suarez admitted using a term he shouldnt have but thought it was ok.
It wasnt ok because the FA doesn't care about the use of language in other cultures.
He got banned.
Thats about it.
I think ebjt is fucked to be honest. I mean proper fucked.
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I agree with you but made a small amendment.
They've left themselves no choice with EBJT.
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JTs fate is probably in the hands of the police.
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Ah bollocks, he'll be fine. There has to be circumstantial evidence in a real court.
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=47188.msg1448294#msg1448294 date=1324417918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1448283#msg1448283 date=1324417604]
Ultimately it boils down to this.
They had an argument.
Evra said he was racially abused.
Suarez admitted using a term he shouldnt have but thought it was ok.
It wasnt ok because the FA doesn't care about the use of language in other cultures.
He got banned.
Thats about it.
I think ebjt is fucked to be honest. I mean proper fucked.
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I agree with you but made a small amendment.
They've left themselves no choice with EBJT.
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JTs fate is probably in the hands of the police.
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Ah bollocks, he'll be fine. There has to be circumstantial evidence in a real court.
[quote author='Dave' link=topic=47188.msg1448368#msg1448368 date=1324421239]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448361#msg1448361 date=1324420834]
Hey Dave - I thought you stayed out of the Football forum man? How can we keep you in here?
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The General section has gone shit
Also, the tension in this thread is like this forum has never seen. normally its like mass mob v mong (fox etc..) but this is a much more even and there for intresting. Its really great.
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It's terrible man ... You have all the intelligent folk on one side, and the commoners on the other ... with the onlookers in the middle ... We need some more balance.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448361#msg1448361 date=1324420834]
Hey Dave - I thought you stayed out of the Football forum man? How can we keep you in here?
[/quote]
The General section has gone shit
Also, the tension in this thread is like this forum has never seen. normally its like mass mob v mong (fox etc..) but this is a much more even and there for intresting. Its really great.
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It's terrible man ... You have all the intelligent folk on one side, and the commoners on the other ... with the onlookers in the middle ... We need some more balance.
[quote author=IanTheRed link=topic=47188.msg1448372#msg1448372 date=1324421356]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1448302#msg1448302 date=1324418072]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=47188.msg1448294#msg1448294 date=1324417918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1448283#msg1448283 date=1324417604]
Ultimately it boils down to this.
They had an argument.
Evra said he was racially abused.
Suarez admitted using a term he shouldnt have but thought it was ok.
It wasnt ok because the FA doesn't care about the use of language in other cultures.
He got banned.
Thats about it.
I think ebjt is fucked to be honest. I mean proper fucked.
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I agree with you but made a small amendment.
They've left themselves no choice with EBJT.
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JTs fate is probably in the hands of the police.
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Ah bollocks, he'll be fine. There has to be circumstantial evidence in a real court.
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He is not charged by FA?
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1448302#msg1448302 date=1324418072]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=47188.msg1448294#msg1448294 date=1324417918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1448283#msg1448283 date=1324417604]
Ultimately it boils down to this.
They had an argument.
Evra said he was racially abused.
Suarez admitted using a term he shouldnt have but thought it was ok.
It wasnt ok because the FA doesn't care about the use of language in other cultures.
He got banned.
Thats about it.
I think ebjt is fucked to be honest. I mean proper fucked.
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I agree with you but made a small amendment.
They've left themselves no choice with EBJT.
[/quote]
JTs fate is probably in the hands of the police.
[/quote]
Ah bollocks, he'll be fine. There has to be circumstantial evidence in a real court.
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He is not charged by FA?
[quote author=iseered link=topic=47188.msg1448369#msg1448369 date=1324421326]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1448367#msg1448367 date=1324421109]
Actually the only person that admitted making an abusive remark was Evra, but the FA have let it slip under the net ......
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That is probably not true.
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Its in his written statement, that quote is from Liverpool after they saw the evidence
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1448367#msg1448367 date=1324421109]
Actually the only person that admitted making an abusive remark was Evra, but the FA have let it slip under the net ......
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That is probably not true.
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Its in his written statement, that quote is from Liverpool after they saw the evidence
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=47188.msg1448371#msg1448371 date=1324421338]
where is fox anyway?
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After his surprising poll victory over brendan, he retired from the site ... he's returned under a different user name.
where is fox anyway?
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After his surprising poll victory over brendan, he retired from the site ... he's returned under a different user name.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448376#msg1448376 date=1324421454]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=47188.msg1448371#msg1448371 date=1324421338]
where is fox anyway?
[/quote]
After his surprising poll victory over brendan, he retired from the site ... he's returned under a different user name.
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He has?
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=47188.msg1448371#msg1448371 date=1324421338]
where is fox anyway?
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After his surprising poll victory over brendan, he retired from the site ... he's returned under a different user name.
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He has?
Mario Balotelli's tweet .... "The FA are willing to ban someone based on one persons claim, with no video evidence? In that case, the whole ManU squad racially abused me"
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=47188.msg1448374#msg1448374 date=1324421407]
[quote author=IanTheRed link=topic=47188.msg1448372#msg1448372 date=1324421356]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1448302#msg1448302 date=1324418072]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=47188.msg1448294#msg1448294 date=1324417918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1448283#msg1448283 date=1324417604]
Ultimately it boils down to this.
They had an argument.
Evra said he was racially abused.
Suarez admitted using a term he shouldnt have but thought it was ok.
It wasnt ok because the FA doesn't care about the use of language in other cultures.
He got banned.
Thats about it.
I think ebjt is fucked to be honest. I mean proper fucked.
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I agree with you but made a small amendment.
They've left themselves no choice with EBJT.
[/quote]
JTs fate is probably in the hands of the police.
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Ah bollocks, he'll be fine. There has to be circumstantial evidence in a real court.
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He is not charged by FA?
[/quote]I dont think any complaint has been made to the FA. A member of the public complained to the rozzers.
[quote author=IanTheRed link=topic=47188.msg1448372#msg1448372 date=1324421356]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1448302#msg1448302 date=1324418072]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=47188.msg1448294#msg1448294 date=1324417918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1448283#msg1448283 date=1324417604]
Ultimately it boils down to this.
They had an argument.
Evra said he was racially abused.
Suarez admitted using a term he shouldnt have but thought it was ok.
It wasnt ok because the FA doesn't care about the use of language in other cultures.
He got banned.
Thats about it.
I think ebjt is fucked to be honest. I mean proper fucked.
[/quote]
I agree with you but made a small amendment.
They've left themselves no choice with EBJT.
[/quote]
JTs fate is probably in the hands of the police.
[/quote]
Ah bollocks, he'll be fine. There has to be circumstantial evidence in a real court.
[/quote]
He is not charged by FA?
[/quote]I dont think any complaint has been made to the FA. A member of the public complained to the rozzers.
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47188.msg1448377#msg1448377 date=1324421479]
So when does the ban start?
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Tomorrow.
So when does the ban start?
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Tomorrow.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448380#msg1448380 date=1324421611]
Mario Balotelli's tweet .... "The FA are willing to ban someone based on one persons claim, with no video evidence? In that case, the whole ManU squad racially abused me"
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LOL, that can't be real!!
Mario Balotelli's tweet .... "The FA are willing to ban someone based on one persons claim, with no video evidence? In that case, the whole ManU squad racially abused me"
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LOL, that can't be real!!
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1448384#msg1448384 date=1324421685]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448382#msg1448382 date=1324421642]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47188.msg1448377#msg1448377 date=1324421479]
So when does the ban start?
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Tomorrow.
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It starts in 14 days unless LFC appeal .....
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I know I know ... I was just making another bad post ...
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448382#msg1448382 date=1324421642]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47188.msg1448377#msg1448377 date=1324421479]
So when does the ban start?
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Tomorrow.
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It starts in 14 days unless LFC appeal .....
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I know I know ... I was just making another bad post ...
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1448375#msg1448375 date=1324421409]
[quote author=iseered link=topic=47188.msg1448369#msg1448369 date=1324421326]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1448367#msg1448367 date=1324421109]
Actually the only person that admitted making an abusive remark was Evra, but the FA have let it slip under the net ......
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That is probably not true.
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Its in his written statement, that quote is from Liverpool after they saw the evidence
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Not that part. It seems as if Suarez admitted to using a word, and claimed he thought it wasnt a bad word. FA thinks it was a bad word. So saying that "the only person that admitted making an abusive remark was Evra" is at best inaccurate. Probably.
[quote author=iseered link=topic=47188.msg1448369#msg1448369 date=1324421326]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1448367#msg1448367 date=1324421109]
Actually the only person that admitted making an abusive remark was Evra, but the FA have let it slip under the net ......
[/quote]
That is probably not true.
[/quote]
Its in his written statement, that quote is from Liverpool after they saw the evidence
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Not that part. It seems as if Suarez admitted to using a word, and claimed he thought it wasnt a bad word. FA thinks it was a bad word. So saying that "the only person that admitted making an abusive remark was Evra" is at best inaccurate. Probably.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448380#msg1448380 date=1324421611]
Mario Balotelli's tweet .... "The FA are willing to ban someone based on one persons claim, with no video evidence? In that case, the whole ManU squad racially abused me"
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hahaha.
Mario Balotelli's tweet .... "The FA are willing to ban someone based on one persons claim, with no video evidence? In that case, the whole ManU squad racially abused me"
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hahaha.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448385#msg1448385 date=1324421700]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448380#msg1448380 date=1324421611]
Mario Balotelli's tweet .... "The FA are willing to ban someone based on one persons claim, with no video evidence? In that case, the whole ManU squad racially abused me"
[/quote]
LOL, that can't be real!!
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Some group in FB posted it - I don't know if it's real as I'm not on twitter.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448380#msg1448380 date=1324421611]
Mario Balotelli's tweet .... "The FA are willing to ban someone based on one persons claim, with no video evidence? In that case, the whole ManU squad racially abused me"
[/quote]
LOL, that can't be real!!
[/quote]
Some group in FB posted it - I don't know if it's real as I'm not on twitter.
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