The Suarez/Evra Racism Row
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448230#msg1448230 date=1324416180]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448215#msg1448215 date=1324415737]
I reckon Suarez will move now in the summer.
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You and Ross can form a tag team and see how many people you can piss off in one night. Tonight's a good night to hit 100 I say.
[/quote]Thats a bit of a shit post.
What has Gene said there to deserve that?
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448215#msg1448215 date=1324415737]
I reckon Suarez will move now in the summer.
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You and Ross can form a tag team and see how many people you can piss off in one night. Tonight's a good night to hit 100 I say.
[/quote]Thats a bit of a shit post.
What has Gene said there to deserve that?
There's nothing I hate more than the threat over players leaving hanging over us. Any prat who wants to hold us ransom like that can get lost.
This is why I started hating Torres and what put me off Reina, frankly anyone who doesn't want to play for LFC and doesn't get what it means, can leave. I don't really care.
This is why I started hating Torres and what put me off Reina, frankly anyone who doesn't want to play for LFC and doesn't get what it means, can leave. I don't really care.
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See this is the confusing part ...are they saying they believe he didn't say anything at all which could be considered a racist insult or that potential he said something like 'negrito' but didn't mean it in a racist way . We really need more info to come out .
See this goes back to what i said earlier , surely he wasn't being charged with being a full blown racist , rather if in one situation he used a racist insult . But i guess it's about building character reference .
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=47188.msg1448234#msg1448234 date=1324416261]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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Logic tells me the verdict won't stand up.
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I agree, however I don't think logic applies to the FA, otherwise we wouldn't have had this verdict in the first place.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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Logic tells me the verdict won't stand up.
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I agree, however I don't think logic applies to the FA, otherwise we wouldn't have had this verdict in the first place.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1448232#msg1448232 date=1324416229]
What a mess.
The man does talk too much when he's on the pitch, maybe he'll learn a lesson too think before he speaks.
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I hope Bellers stops talking so much, and Carra, and all our noisy players. Sheesh, Ferguson has succeeded in turning most English fans against this man (bar Neil fucking Warnock!), and far too many of our own fans too it seems.
What a mess.
The man does talk too much when he's on the pitch, maybe he'll learn a lesson too think before he speaks.
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I hope Bellers stops talking so much, and Carra, and all our noisy players. Sheesh, Ferguson has succeeded in turning most English fans against this man (bar Neil fucking Warnock!), and far too many of our own fans too it seems.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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I understand the reasoning but I think the man will want to tough it out, and I think Kenny will too. If I'm right about that, your forecast would mean FSG forcing a sale against the player's and the manager's wishes. I don't think they'd take that step.
I also think Suarez WILL be vindicated if we go to law over this in the event of an appeal failing, which I think is vital.
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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I understand the reasoning but I think the man will want to tough it out, and I think Kenny will too. If I'm right about that, your forecast would mean FSG forcing a sale against the player's and the manager's wishes. I don't think they'd take that step.
I also think Suarez WILL be vindicated if we go to law over this in the event of an appeal failing, which I think is vital.
Gerrard wanted to leave lfc as well.
Also I don't think it's be a case of Suarez wanting to leave lfc, more he may want to go to a more familiar culture or surroundings etc
Also I don't think it's be a case of Suarez wanting to leave lfc, more he may want to go to a more familiar culture or surroundings etc
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1448239#msg1448239 date=1324416321]
There's nothing I hate more than the threat over players leaving hanging over us. Any prat who wants to hold us ransom like that can get lost.
This is why I started hating Torres and what put me off Reina, frankly anyone who doesn't want to play for LFC and doesn't get what it means, can leave. I don't really care.
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When has Suarez made such a threat? Did Evra say so??
There's nothing I hate more than the threat over players leaving hanging over us. Any prat who wants to hold us ransom like that can get lost.
This is why I started hating Torres and what put me off Reina, frankly anyone who doesn't want to play for LFC and doesn't get what it means, can leave. I don't really care.
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When has Suarez made such a threat? Did Evra say so??
Ok Andy. Cheers.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448241#msg1448241 date=1324416367]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=47188.msg1448234#msg1448234 date=1324416261]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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Logic tells me the verdict won't stand up.
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I agree, however I don't think logic applies to the FA, otherwise we wouldn't have had this verdict in the first place.
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But thankfully Gene the FA is not the final arbiter.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=47188.msg1448234#msg1448234 date=1324416261]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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Logic tells me the verdict won't stand up.
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I agree, however I don't think logic applies to the FA, otherwise we wouldn't have had this verdict in the first place.
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But thankfully Gene the FA is not the final arbiter.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1448252#msg1448252 date=1324416550]
People need to calm down and stop talking every post literally.
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What other way is there to take a post?
People need to calm down and stop talking every post literally.
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What other way is there to take a post?
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RedZeppelin
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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Nah don't see it panning out that way even if this is upheld . It will be forgotten before the summer by most , especially if he bangs the goals in (The football world view scoring goals after an offence as showing how you've turned the corner and changed your ways ) .
And i don't think the club will worry about marketing , they've already shown they believe him not to be guilty so will continue to push that , they've gone past the point of worrying he might be guilty and any effects that might have , i doubt they'll do a full swing now .
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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Nah don't see it panning out that way even if this is upheld . It will be forgotten before the summer by most , especially if he bangs the goals in (The football world view scoring goals after an offence as showing how you've turned the corner and changed your ways ) .
And i don't think the club will worry about marketing , they've already shown they believe him not to be guilty so will continue to push that , they've gone past the point of worrying he might be guilty and any effects that might have , i doubt they'll do a full swing now .
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1448255#msg1448255 date=1324416719]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448251#msg1448251 date=1324416524]
Ok Andy. Cheers.
[/quote]Why are you acting the cunt?
It doesnt suit you.
Youve now had a dig at Rosco, Piedro, Anita and Gene for simply voicing concerns.
Wind your neck in ffs.
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Fine, sorry.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448251#msg1448251 date=1324416524]
Ok Andy. Cheers.
[/quote]Why are you acting the cunt?
It doesnt suit you.
Youve now had a dig at Rosco, Piedro, Anita and Gene for simply voicing concerns.
Wind your neck in ffs.
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Fine, sorry.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448261#msg1448261 date=1324416854]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1448255#msg1448255 date=1324416719]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448251#msg1448251 date=1324416524]
Ok Andy. Cheers.
[/quote]Why are you acting the cunt?
It doesnt suit you.
Youve now had a dig at Rosco, Piedro, Anita and Gene for simply voicing concerns.
Wind your neck in ffs.
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Fine, sorry.
[/quote]No worries handsome.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1448255#msg1448255 date=1324416719]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1448251#msg1448251 date=1324416524]
Ok Andy. Cheers.
[/quote]Why are you acting the cunt?
It doesnt suit you.
Youve now had a dig at Rosco, Piedro, Anita and Gene for simply voicing concerns.
Wind your neck in ffs.
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Fine, sorry.
[/quote]No worries handsome.
Are people feeling okay on here tonight, seriously?
If you don't believe there's a conspiracy against LFC and you don't believe Suarez is an innocent victim who's never put a foot wrong, who's been framed by evil Ferguson and Evra, you're somehow a lesser fan?
Okaay than
If you don't believe there's a conspiracy against LFC and you don't believe Suarez is an innocent victim who's never put a foot wrong, who's been framed by evil Ferguson and Evra, you're somehow a lesser fan?
Okaay than
Not surprised he got found guilty really but the length of the ban is a bit excessive.
If it was just Suarez vs Evra then it surely would have been thrown out, but he admitted he said something didn't he? He didn't say what he said in that interview but I assume he must have told the FA.
If it was just Suarez vs Evra then it surely would have been thrown out, but he admitted he said something didn't he? He didn't say what he said in that interview but I assume he must have told the FA.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1448264#msg1448264 date=1324416950]
Are people feeling okay on here tonight, seriously?
If you don't believe there's a conspiracy against LFC and you don't believe Suarez is an innocent victim who's never put a foot wrong, who's been framed by evil Ferguson and Evra, you're somehow a lesser fan?
Okaay than
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See, that's exactly the kind of snidey, exaggerated needling which provoked Wizzy in the first place.
Are people feeling okay on here tonight, seriously?
If you don't believe there's a conspiracy against LFC and you don't believe Suarez is an innocent victim who's never put a foot wrong, who's been framed by evil Ferguson and Evra, you're somehow a lesser fan?
Okaay than
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See, that's exactly the kind of snidey, exaggerated needling which provoked Wizzy in the first place.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=47188.msg1448247#msg1448247 date=1324416445]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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I understand the reasoning but I think the man will want to tough it out, and I think Kenny will too. If I'm right about that, your forecast would mean FSG forcing a sale against the player's and the manager's wishes. I don't think they'd take that step.
I also think Suarez WILL be vindicated if we go to law over this in the event of an appeal failing, which I think is vital.
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I agree, I don't think the club would sell him against his wishes, I just think neither the club nor player will think it's a bad idea and when that happens and a bid comes in, it's usually bye bye.
On the legal issue, I thought football associations, UEFA, FIFA etc. took a poor view of clubs and players going to civil courts to contest decisions on disciplinary matters. Isn't that what's happening with the Swiss kerfuffle right now?
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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I understand the reasoning but I think the man will want to tough it out, and I think Kenny will too. If I'm right about that, your forecast would mean FSG forcing a sale against the player's and the manager's wishes. I don't think they'd take that step.
I also think Suarez WILL be vindicated if we go to law over this in the event of an appeal failing, which I think is vital.
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I agree, I don't think the club would sell him against his wishes, I just think neither the club nor player will think it's a bad idea and when that happens and a bid comes in, it's usually bye bye.
On the legal issue, I thought football associations, UEFA, FIFA etc. took a poor view of clubs and players going to civil courts to contest decisions on disciplinary matters. Isn't that what's happening with the Swiss kerfuffle right now?
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448241#msg1448241 date=1324416367]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=47188.msg1448234#msg1448234 date=1324416261]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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Logic tells me the verdict won't stand up.
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I agree, however I don't think logic applies to the FA, otherwise we wouldn't have had this verdict in the first place.
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But thankfully Gene the FA is not the final arbiter.
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Sorry, I admit don't know enough about our right to pursue this (see my previous post).
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448241#msg1448241 date=1324416367]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=47188.msg1448234#msg1448234 date=1324416261]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1448226#msg1448226 date=1324416051]
Sorry Jules, I think he'll have a sour taste in his mouth now and his career in England can never be the same. My Spanish friends think this whole thing is bizarre, I reckon a few Spanish clubs will be reaching out to Suarez now on that same basis. Sadly, the club for all its defense of Suarez will also be thinking of the reputation and marketing impact of this whole thing unless he's cleared and vindicated.
Logic tells me he's going to be playing for someone else next year.
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Logic tells me the verdict won't stand up.
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I agree, however I don't think logic applies to the FA, otherwise we wouldn't have had this verdict in the first place.
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But thankfully Gene the FA is not the final arbiter.
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Sorry, I admit don't know enough about our right to pursue this (see my previous post).
Calm down, Asim.
You forgot the comma, Livvy.
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