The Suarez/Evra Racism Row

Well we shoudl throw the appeal in on the 14th day to get as many games out of him.

Question, should all appeals fail should the club sell him?
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=47188.msg1448066#msg1448066 date=1324412011]
Should we appeal?

If it kicks in 14 days form now, the fixtures Suarez will missed will be:

6 Jan 2012 FA Cup Oldham H 20:00
11 Jan 2012 Carling Cup Manchester City A 19:45
14 Jan 2012 Barclays Premier League Stoke City H 15:00
21 Jan 2012 Barclays Premier League Bolton A 17:30
25 Jan 2012 Carling Cup Manchester City H 19:45
31 Jan 2012 Barclays Premier League Wolves A 20:00
6 Feb 2012 Barclays Premier League Tottenham H 20:00
11 Feb 2012 Barclays Premier League Man United A 12:45 <---- Conspiracy theory?
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No "theory" about it. This has Ferguson's hoofprints all over it.
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=47188.msg1448066#msg1448066 date=1324412011]
Should we appeal?

If it kicks in 14 days from now, the fixtures Suarez will missed will be:

6 Jan 2012 FA Cup Oldham H 20:00
11 Jan 2012 Carling Cup Manchester City A 19:45
14 Jan 2012 Barclays Premier League Stoke City H 15:00
21 Jan 2012 Barclays Premier League Bolton A 17:30
25 Jan 2012 Carling Cup Manchester City H 19:45
31 Jan 2012 Barclays Premier League Wolves A 20:00
6 Feb 2012 Barclays Premier League Tottenham H 20:00
11 Feb 2012 Barclays Premier League Man United A 12:45 <---- Conspiracy theory?
[/quote]We should have another FA cup match before then Binny
 
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=47188.msg1448070#msg1448070 date=1324412081]
Well we shoudl throw the appeal in on the 14th day to get as many games out of him.

Question, should all appeals fail should the club sell him?
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WTF??

Sell him?!

Why in all that is Shankly would we sell him?!
 
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=47188.msg1448070#msg1448070 date=1324412081]
Well we shoudl throw the appeal in on the 14th day to get as many games out of him.

Question, should all appeals fail should the club sell him?
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[size=36pt]NO[/size]
 
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=47188.msg1448070#msg1448070 date=1324412081]
Well we shoudl throw the appeal in on the 14th day to get as many games out of him.

Question, should all appeals fail should the club sell him?
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fuck selling him he is class.
 
[quote author=the count link=topic=47188.msg1448069#msg1448069 date=1324412076]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1448065#msg1448065 date=1324412000]
Well we lodge the appeal which delays the start of the ban, which takes us to January transfer window where we simply *have* to buy another striker
[/quote]My instinct would say that we wont on the basis that three of the matches at least would be in the Carling and FA Cups.
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We would be foolish if that were the case
 
[quote author=the count link=topic=47188.msg1448074#msg1448074 date=1324412151]
[quote author=Binny link=topic=47188.msg1448066#msg1448066 date=1324412011]
Should we appeal?

If it kicks in 14 days from now, the fixtures Suarez will missed will be:

6 Jan 2012 FA Cup Oldham H 20:00
11 Jan 2012 Carling Cup Manchester City A 19:45
14 Jan 2012 Barclays Premier League Stoke City H 15:00
21 Jan 2012 Barclays Premier League Bolton A 17:30
25 Jan 2012 Carling Cup Manchester City H 19:45
31 Jan 2012 Barclays Premier League Wolves A 20:00
6 Feb 2012 Barclays Premier League Tottenham H 20:00
11 Feb 2012 Barclays Premier League Man United A 12:45 <---- Conspiracy theory?
[/quote]We should have another FA cup match before then Binny
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Oh, you're right mate. Phew.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47188.msg1448075#msg1448075 date=1324412164]
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=47188.msg1448070#msg1448070 date=1324412081]
Well we shoudl throw the appeal in on the 14th day to get as many games out of him.

Question, should all appeals fail should the club sell him?
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WTF??

Sell him?!

Why in all that is Shankly would we sell him?!
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Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sell him. But how would it do the clubs global image if they supported an alleged Racist. Thats the headlines that will go round the world regadrless of what we think on an internet forum.
 
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=47188.msg1448085#msg1448085 date=1324412312]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47188.msg1448075#msg1448075 date=1324412164]
[quote author=El Pistolero link=topic=47188.msg1448070#msg1448070 date=1324412081]
Well we shoudl throw the appeal in on the 14th day to get as many games out of him.

Question, should all appeals fail should the club sell him?
[/quote]

WTF??

Sell him?!

Why in all that is Shankly would we sell him?!
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Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sell him. But how would it do the clubs global image if they supported an alleged Racist. Thats the headlines that will go round the world regadrless of what we think on an internet forum.
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Drag the feckers through every court in the land. I have difficulty believing this nonsense would stand up if examined properly without the likes of Denis Smith on the panel.
 
Not upset, it's what I was expecting. No one can say its a shite decision until all the facts and paperwork are released.
 
With regarding the start of the ban, if he decides not to appeal does it start earlier than the fourteen day period given over for the appeal submission?
 
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=47188.msg1448095#msg1448095 date=1324412571]
Not upset, it's what I was expecting. No one can say its a shite decision until all the facts and paperwork are released.
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Not true. We can certainly say the process is a shite one (check back over what's been said about the actual rules under which the charges were brought) and has been applied selectively. Those things cast doubt on the decision even before the reasons are known, and give us an excellent chance of overturning the decision once we get it into court.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47188.msg1448097#msg1448097 date=1324412642]
He hasn't been proven guilty of being a racist though.

The fuckers worded the charge to make sure of it.
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Well at least we know he won't do it again
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47188.msg1448097#msg1448097 date=1324412642]
He hasn't been proven guilty of being a racist though.

The fuckers worded the charge to make sure of it.
[/quote]But that is not what the media will say.
 
Tell you what, we've got some fucking enemies this season.

Referees, the FA, opposition goalkeepers, woodwork, long grass.

Any more?
 
Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him.

We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.

We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.

The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.

LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.

It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.

Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.

He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.

It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.

It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.

We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1448110#msg1448110 date=1324413052]
I can't believe people still have their heads in the fucking sand.
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Uh huh
 
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=47188.msg1448108#msg1448108 date=1324413027]
Tell you what, we've got some fucking enemies this season.

Referees, the FA, opposition goalkeepers, woodwork, long grass.

Any more?
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ACL ligaments (Lucas)
 
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