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The Suarez/Evra Racism Row

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[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47188.msg1446809#msg1446809 date=1324298871]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446806#msg1446806 date=1324298718]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1446803#msg1446803 date=1324298609]
Literally its "Because black" I think
[/quote]

or ?
[/quote]

Why, black man?
[/quote]

or "Why, mate?"

All those translations are correct btw... although I think Rosco meant "por que" rather than "porque".
 
There's 4 camps in this thread

1) the he's a cunty racist group, who hope he isn't but aren't surprised he is and expect him to go down (lol)
2) the he's not racist in his language group, who think he said something to wind someone up which isn't racist where he's from
3) the he's our racist group, who know he's racist and don't give a fuck
4) the fuck this for a game of soldiers group, which is me

No one is going to change their opinion and people are just going to get wound up

In my mind there is no right answer in this so I'm leaving with this...

Gareth...fucking....barry
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446810#msg1446810 date=1324298914]
If he did say Negro, I think he's fucked and rightly so.
[/quote]

If you call a black man "Negro" is it racist or just offensive. Or is it just fact. Personally I wouldnt do it but Im not south American.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1446821#msg1446821 date=1324299158]
There's 4 camps in this thread

1) the he's a cunty racist group, who hope he isn't but aren't surprised he is and expect him to go down (lol)
2) the he's not racist in his language group, who think he said something to wind someone up which isn't racist where he's from
3) the he's our racist group, who know he's racist and don't give a fuck
4) the fuck this for a game of soldiers group, which is me

No one is going to change their opinion and people are just going to get wound up

In my mind there is no right answer in this so I'm leaving with this...

Gareth...fucking....barry
[/quote]Quit fucking moaning and post in a different thread then.
Sheeesh.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1446821#msg1446821 date=1324299158]
There's 4 camps in this thread

1) the he's a cunty racist group, who hope he isn't but aren't surprised he is and expect him to go down (lol)
2) the he's not racist in his language group, who think he said something to wind someone up which isn't racist where he's from
3) the he's our racist group, who know he's racist and don't give a fuck
4) the fuck this for a game of soldiers group, which is me

No one is going to change their opinion and people are just going to get wound up

In my mind there is no right answer in this so I'm leaving with this...

Gareth...fucking....barry

[/quote]

Don't forget 5) Doc Mac's Merry Band of Racists that are much cleverer than everyone else
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1446821#msg1446821 date=1324299158]
There's 4 camps in this thread

1) the he's a cunty racist group, who hope he isn't but aren't surprised he is and expect him to go down (lol)
2) the he's not racist in his language group, who think he said something to wind someone up which isn't racist where he's from
3) the he's our racist group, who know he's racist and don't give a fuck
4) the fuck this for a game of soldiers group, which is me

No one is going to change their opinion and people are just going to get wound up

In my mind there is no right answer in this so I'm leaving with this...

Gareth...fucking....barry
[/quote]

But there was a right answer with Gareth Barry
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446810#msg1446810 date=1324298914]
If he did say Negro, I think he's fucked and rightly so.
[/quote]

If Suarez was speaking English, yep.
 
Modern day football is brilliant.
We learnt about metatarsals and then went on to the net and gross that was fun.
We involved ourselves in understanding complex legal issues and now talk about the nuances of the Spanish language.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446825#msg1446825 date=1324299296]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1446821#msg1446821 date=1324299158]
There's 4 camps in this thread

1) the he's a cunty racist group, who hope he isn't but aren't surprised he is and expect him to go down (lol)
2) the he's not racist in his language group, who think he said something to wind someone up which isn't racist where he's from
3) the he's our racist group, who know he's racist and don't give a fuck
4) the fuck this for a game of soldiers group, which is me

No one is going to change their opinion and people are just going to get wound up

In my mind there is no right answer in this so I'm leaving with this...

Gareth...fucking....barry

[/quote]

Don't forget 5) Doc Mac's Merry Band of Racists that are much cleverer than everyone else
[/quote]

Thats a disgraceful post Rosco. And you should withdraw it.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446825#msg1446825 date=1324299296]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47188.msg1446821#msg1446821 date=1324299158]
There's 4 camps in this thread

1) the he's a cunty racist group, who hope he isn't but aren't surprised he is and expect him to go down (lol)
2) the he's not racist in his language group, who think he said something to wind someone up which isn't racist where he's from
3) the he's our racist group, who know he's racist and don't give a fuck
4) the fuck this for a game of soldiers group, which is me

No one is going to change their opinion and people are just going to get wound up

In my mind there is no right answer in this so I'm leaving with this...

Gareth...fucking....barry

[/quote]

Don't forget 5) Doc Mac's Merry Band of Racists that are much cleverer than everyone else
[/quote]

I'd like you to produce any post I've ever posted that suggests I'm a racist. Take your time. Interesting that my 'merry band of racists' includes people of mixed race, and varied ethnic origins. And we don't claim to be cleverer than everyone else Rosco.

Just you, you thick cunt.
 
[quote author=Atlas link=topic=47188.msg1446849#msg1446849 date=1324300341]
Oh and also learnt how to photoshop
[/quote]

Avvy missed the lesson.
 
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=47188.msg1446817#msg1446817 date=1324299099]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47188.msg1446809#msg1446809 date=1324298871]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446806#msg1446806 date=1324298718]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1446803#msg1446803 date=1324298609]
Literally its "Because black" I think
[/quote]

or ?
[/quote]

Why, black man?
[/quote]

or "Why, mate?"

All those translations are correct btw... although I think Rosco meant "por que" rather than "porque".
[/quote]

Isn't "por que" roughly translated "for what?" - so "for what, darling?".

A quick point: there seems an assumption by some that whatever Suarez said was out of anger/part of a heated exchange. My memory of the game leads me to think Evra was really wound up and Suarez seemed bemused at worst. No?
 
I'm throwing out the, 'I'm attempting communication with an utter moron' defence. Perhaps I should draw pictures.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446865#msg1446865 date=1324301060]
So "negro" translates to darling as well ?
[/quote]

No one can be told what "negro" translates to, you have to hear it for yourself.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47188.msg1446867#msg1446867 date=1324301089]
I'm throwing out the, 'I'm attempting communication with an utter moron' defence. Perhaps I should draw pictures.
[/quote]

Surely you see I'm on a wind up ?
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47188.msg1446869#msg1446869 date=1324301158]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446865#msg1446865 date=1324301060]
So "negro" translates to darling as well ?
[/quote]

No one can be told what "negro" translates to, you have to hear it for yourself.
[/quote]HAHAHAHAHAHA.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446870#msg1446870 date=1324301196]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=47188.msg1446867#msg1446867 date=1324301089]
I'm throwing out the, 'I'm attempting communication with an utter moron' defence. Perhaps I should draw pictures.
[/quote]

Surely you see I'm on a wind up ?
[/quote]Jack D Rips certianly doesnt.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=47188.msg1446864#msg1446864 date=1324300985]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=47188.msg1446817#msg1446817 date=1324299099]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47188.msg1446809#msg1446809 date=1324298871]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446806#msg1446806 date=1324298718]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1446803#msg1446803 date=1324298609]
Literally its "Because black" I think
[/quote]

or ?
[/quote]



Why, black man?
[/quote]

or "Why, mate?"

All those translations are correct btw... although I think Rosco meant "por que" rather than "porque".
[/quote]

Isn't "por que" roughly translated "for what?" - so "for what, darling?".

A quick point: there seems an assumption by some that whatever Suarez said was out of anger/part of a heated exchange. My memory of the game leads me to think Evra was really wound up and Suarez seemed bemused at worst. No?
[/quote]

Yes it roughly translates into English as "for what". But in Spanish it means "why".

Thats why it is dangerous to "roughly translate" into English whatever Suarez was saying in Spanish. If he spoke in Spanish he was saying it with a Spanish meaning, not a roughly translated English meaning.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=47188.msg1446864#msg1446864 date=1324300985]
[quote author=Tinto link=topic=47188.msg1446817#msg1446817 date=1324299099]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47188.msg1446809#msg1446809 date=1324298871]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446806#msg1446806 date=1324298718]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=47188.msg1446803#msg1446803 date=1324298609]
Literally its "Because black" I think
[/quote]

or ?
[/quote]

Why, black man?
[/quote]

or "Why, mate?"

All those translations are correct btw... although I think Rosco meant "por que" rather than "porque".
[/quote]

Isn't "por que" roughly translated "for what?" - so "for what, darling?".

A quick point: there seems an assumption by some that whatever Suarez said was out of anger/part of a heated exchange. My memory of the game leads me to think Evra was really wound up and Suarez seemed bemused at worst. No?
[/quote]

It was said as part of a heated exchange.
 
I can't actually remember what the exchange was like any more, it's been so long. Can you give me a link to the video Rosco? Thanks.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1446730#msg1446730 date=1324294049]
A couple of points.

1. It hasn't been confirmed what term Suarez actually used.

2. What is and isn't offensive in Spain is irrelevant. The incident took place in the UK.

3. People need to look at what Suarez has been charged with. The FA aren't deciding if he is a racist or not.
[/quote]

That's the conditions for a witch hunt Ross... which this might be or at least let's punish him with something.
 
Sky TV trawled through the match for the 10 instances where he was supposed to have said it, and found Fuck all, thats why nothings on YouTube.

They also did the same for the Referee ignoring all this abus as Evra said he did and again found nothing of the sort.

If the FA find Suarez guilty, then the Ref will be punished to for ignoring it all while Evra looked at him in astonishment for letting it all happen ....
 
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