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The Suarez/Evra Racism Row
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[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=47188.msg1454987#msg1454987 date=1325616429]
I find it odd that people here are convinced the club's statement is a PR stunt and that we don't actually feel wronged in this.
Maybe I have too much faith in Liverpool Football Club. Then again, if I didn't, I would have no reason to support us.
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TBF I'm not sure anyone actually thinks that. I think we all realise how the club feels. It's just that some on here think they know better than the club.
I find it odd that people here are convinced the club's statement is a PR stunt and that we don't actually feel wronged in this.
Maybe I have too much faith in Liverpool Football Club. Then again, if I didn't, I would have no reason to support us.
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TBF I'm not sure anyone actually thinks that. I think we all realise how the club feels. It's just that some on here think they know better than the club.
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=47188.msg1454977#msg1454977 date=1325616050]
Lock the fucking thread now, I'm sick of seeing this at the top of the page every day.
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Indeed.
A sad business all round.
Im still a Lil Luis fan....
Lock the fucking thread now, I'm sick of seeing this at the top of the page every day.
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Indeed.
A sad business all round.
Im still a Lil Luis fan....
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=47188.msg1454994#msg1454994 date=1325616628]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=47188.msg1454977#msg1454977 date=1325616050]
Lock the fucking thread now, I'm sick of seeing this at the top of the page every day.
[/quote]
Indeed.
A sad business all round.
Im still a Lil Luis fan....
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Quite. No one is going to change their minds on either side.
It's been tedious for days. Let's end it.
Now let's fucking twat Man City.
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=47188.msg1454977#msg1454977 date=1325616050]
Lock the fucking thread now, I'm sick of seeing this at the top of the page every day.
[/quote]
Indeed.
A sad business all round.
Im still a Lil Luis fan....
[/quote]
Quite. No one is going to change their minds on either side.
It's been tedious for days. Let's end it.
Now let's fucking twat Man City.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=47188.msg1454992#msg1454992 date=1325616569]
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=47188.msg1454987#msg1454987 date=1325616429]
I find it odd that people here are convinced the club's statement is a PR stunt and that we don't actually feel wronged in this.
Maybe I have too much faith in Liverpool Football Club. Then again, if I didn't, I would have no reason to support us.
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TBF I'm not sure anyone actually thinks that. I think we all realise how the club feels. It's just that some on here think they know better than the club.
[/quote]Pa-hahahahahahahahaha!!
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=47188.msg1454987#msg1454987 date=1325616429]
I find it odd that people here are convinced the club's statement is a PR stunt and that we don't actually feel wronged in this.
Maybe I have too much faith in Liverpool Football Club. Then again, if I didn't, I would have no reason to support us.
[/quote]
TBF I'm not sure anyone actually thinks that. I think we all realise how the club feels. It's just that some on here think they know better than the club.
[/quote]Pa-hahahahahahahahaha!!
If we beat Oldham he's back for the Spurs game.
With Gerrard back, it makes sense we didn't drag this out any longer. The FA were determined to make a statement, and Suarez was the necessary scapegoat.
I don't think he's racist, but the racist language he did use (whether out of ignorance/cultural differences) deserved a 2 match ban minimum. As did Evra, calling Suarez's sister a whore.
Let's just draw a line under this and move on. The club backed Suarez as far we could. Kenny has created a siege mentality and we're into January now, so the club can bring someone in if necessary. About the best we could have hoped for.
I don't think he's racist, but the racist language he did use (whether out of ignorance/cultural differences) deserved a 2 match ban minimum. As did Evra, calling Suarez's sister a whore.
Let's just draw a line under this and move on. The club backed Suarez as far we could. Kenny has created a siege mentality and we're into January now, so the club can bring someone in if necessary. About the best we could have hoped for.
The club definitely believe an injustice has been done, but have rightly backed down. I don't agree an injustice has been done now, based on what evidence we have at the minute. But hopefully we can put this behind us either way.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1454993#msg1454993 date=1325616570]
Sunny that you believe what the club is saying now, when we've quite clearly lied and bullshitted to the media all along says a lot.
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What the fuck are you quacking on about? The first few paragraphs align exactly with my thoughts. The club does not accept the verdict but feels it has to accept the ban. Luis is innocent.
Sunny that you believe what the club is saying now, when we've quite clearly lied and bullshitted to the media all along says a lot.
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What the fuck are you quacking on about? The first few paragraphs align exactly with my thoughts. The club does not accept the verdict but feels it has to accept the ban. Luis is innocent.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=47188.msg1454995#msg1454995 date=1325616689]
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=47188.msg1454994#msg1454994 date=1325616628]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=47188.msg1454977#msg1454977 date=1325616050]
Lock the fucking thread now, I'm sick of seeing this at the top of the page every day.
[/quote]
Indeed.
A sad business all round.
Im still a Lil Luis fan....
[/quote]
Quite. No one is going to change their minds on either side.
It's been tedious for days. Let's end it.
Now let's fucking twat Man City.
[/quote]
Absolutely
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=47188.msg1454994#msg1454994 date=1325616628]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=47188.msg1454977#msg1454977 date=1325616050]
Lock the fucking thread now, I'm sick of seeing this at the top of the page every day.
[/quote]
Indeed.
A sad business all round.
Im still a Lil Luis fan....
[/quote]
Quite. No one is going to change their minds on either side.
It's been tedious for days. Let's end it.
Now let's fucking twat Man City.
[/quote]
Absolutely
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1454982#msg1454982 date=1325616169]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1454976#msg1454976 date=1325615968]
We've only decided against the appeal because we've got a fantastic new striker ready to sign up.
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No, it's because the club realise the judgement is a solid one. As was mentioned by the few of us with a hint of common sense in the past few days.
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Let it go Rosco, it's over now.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47188.msg1454976#msg1454976 date=1325615968]
We've only decided against the appeal because we've got a fantastic new striker ready to sign up.
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No, it's because the club realise the judgement is a solid one. As was mentioned by the few of us with a hint of common sense in the past few days.
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Let it go Rosco, it's over now.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1455001#msg1455001 date=1325616890]
[quote author=momoWASboss link=topic=47188.msg1454998#msg1454998 date=1325616751]
If we beat Oldham he's back for the Spurs game.
[/quote]We need to draw with Oldham to add a replay game for him to miss. Then we can all cheer the racist back early.....
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Pathetic
[quote author=momoWASboss link=topic=47188.msg1454998#msg1454998 date=1325616751]
If we beat Oldham he's back for the Spurs game.
[/quote]We need to draw with Oldham to add a replay game for him to miss. Then we can all cheer the racist back early.....
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Pathetic
Andy - you've twice in the past few pages insinuated that everyone who didn't follow your point of view is a racist. Please stop - it's not funny.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1455001#msg1455001 date=1325616890]
[quote author=momoWASboss link=topic=47188.msg1454998#msg1454998 date=1325616751]
If we beat Oldham he's back for the Spurs game.
[/quote]We need to draw with Oldham to add a replay game for him to miss. Then we can all cheer the racist back early.....
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4th round game is scheduled for 28th January, so he'd be back for wolves if we are taken to a replay.
[quote author=momoWASboss link=topic=47188.msg1454998#msg1454998 date=1325616751]
If we beat Oldham he's back for the Spurs game.
[/quote]We need to draw with Oldham to add a replay game for him to miss. Then we can all cheer the racist back early.....
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4th round game is scheduled for 28th January, so he'd be back for wolves if we are taken to a replay.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
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Indeed. But pick your battles I guess. If we appealed and the FA increased his ban it would have been a complete waste.
Lets hope Luis can find his true form after 8 games of rest.
Andy and Ross, please move on eh?!
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
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Indeed. But pick your battles I guess. If we appealed and the FA increased his ban it would have been a complete waste.
Lets hope Luis can find his true form after 8 games of rest.
Andy and Ross, please move on eh?!
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
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we wouldn't have won, I read that report (half hour of my life I wont get back) and it was pretty conclusive despite dantes arguments to the contray.
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
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we wouldn't have won, I read that report (half hour of my life I wont get back) and it was pretty conclusive despite dantes arguments to the contray.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=47188.msg1455018#msg1455018 date=1325617486]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
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we wouldn't have won, I read that report (half hour of my life I wont get back) and it was pretty conclusive despite dantes arguments to the contray.
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Not conclusive, subjective.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
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we wouldn't have won, I read that report (half hour of my life I wont get back) and it was pretty conclusive despite dantes arguments to the contray.
[/quote]
Not conclusive, subjective.
so are we going to play for a draw v oldham?
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1455011#msg1455011 date=1325617279]
A statement from Suarez has been posted on his FB page, I can't copy and paste it from my phone
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MomoWASboss posted it, or what looks like it, a couple of pages back. Quiffer. 😉
A statement from Suarez has been posted on his FB page, I can't copy and paste it from my phone
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MomoWASboss posted it, or what looks like it, a couple of pages back. Quiffer. 😉
*Dons Pointy hat*
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455002#msg1455002 date=1325616891]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1454993#msg1454993 date=1325616570]
Sunny that you believe what the club is saying now, when we've quite clearly lied and bullshitted to the media all along says a lot.
[/quote]
What the fuck are you quacking on about? The first few paragraphs align exactly with my thoughts. The club does not accept the verdict but feels it has to accept the ban. Luis is innocent.
[/quote]
Well said Sunny. Ross, you're coming across like a right cock in this thread.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1455012#msg1455012 date=1325617299]
Andy - you've twice in the past few pages insinuated that everyone who didn't follow your point of view is a racist. Please stop - it's not funny.
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Correct as well Whizzy. Oncy, you're turning into a cock as well.
*Removes hat*
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455002#msg1455002 date=1325616891]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1454993#msg1454993 date=1325616570]
Sunny that you believe what the club is saying now, when we've quite clearly lied and bullshitted to the media all along says a lot.
[/quote]
What the fuck are you quacking on about? The first few paragraphs align exactly with my thoughts. The club does not accept the verdict but feels it has to accept the ban. Luis is innocent.
[/quote]
Well said Sunny. Ross, you're coming across like a right cock in this thread.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1455012#msg1455012 date=1325617299]
Andy - you've twice in the past few pages insinuated that everyone who didn't follow your point of view is a racist. Please stop - it's not funny.
[/quote]
Correct as well Whizzy. Oncy, you're turning into a cock as well.
*Removes hat*
That's a great statement.
I hope the people who've taken the stance of 'guilty' from the off, or those who've adopted a smug air of glee from watching this unfold (as most predicted it UNFAIRLY would) will take a step back and have a look at how much of a shambles the handling of this case has been, how unjust it has been and how it's typified the FA's tendency to be lenient on, and in some cases be biased in support of Manchester United.
It's not a conspiracy theory, there are enough incidents over the last few years which leave a lot to contemplate and be angry about in that regard. And it's funny how some of the posters who are siding with the 'beyond reasonable doubt' line of thinking, then have the gall to accuse others being over sensitive about the varying treatment of different clubs in the game.
Let's hope we win tonight, but in truth, some posters have really left me shaking my head in disbelief throughout this thread. What a fucking car crash.
The judgement isn't a solid one, it's a well rehearsed, well researched and blatant threat at any sort of appeal. When there was little evidence to go on in the first place and the FA have been happy to convict based on assumptions, it's pointless fighting an enquiry that was already predicted to be corrupt from the off, as was mentioned by the few of us with a hint of common sense.
I hope the people who've taken the stance of 'guilty' from the off, or those who've adopted a smug air of glee from watching this unfold (as most predicted it UNFAIRLY would) will take a step back and have a look at how much of a shambles the handling of this case has been, how unjust it has been and how it's typified the FA's tendency to be lenient on, and in some cases be biased in support of Manchester United.
It's not a conspiracy theory, there are enough incidents over the last few years which leave a lot to contemplate and be angry about in that regard. And it's funny how some of the posters who are siding with the 'beyond reasonable doubt' line of thinking, then have the gall to accuse others being over sensitive about the varying treatment of different clubs in the game.
Let's hope we win tonight, but in truth, some posters have really left me shaking my head in disbelief throughout this thread. What a fucking car crash.
The judgement isn't a solid one, it's a well rehearsed, well researched and blatant threat at any sort of appeal. When there was little evidence to go on in the first place and the FA have been happy to convict based on assumptions, it's pointless fighting an enquiry that was already predicted to be corrupt from the off, as was mentioned by the few of us with a hint of common sense.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455020#msg1455020 date=1325617538]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=47188.msg1455018#msg1455018 date=1325617486]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
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we wouldn't have won, I read that report (half hour of my life I wont get back) and it was pretty conclusive despite dantes arguments to the contray.
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Not conclusive, subjective.
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obviously it pretty much comes down to evra's word. I thought what would turn things in our favour would be spanish experts at an appeal but spanish speakers were brought into the original hearing so that put a pin in that idea.
LFC are right to move the fuck on and that's how I (along with the majority of liverpool fans) voted on the echo site poll (should LFC appeal or move the fuck on).
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=47188.msg1455018#msg1455018 date=1325617486]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
[/quote]
we wouldn't have won, I read that report (half hour of my life I wont get back) and it was pretty conclusive despite dantes arguments to the contray.
[/quote]
Not conclusive, subjective.
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obviously it pretty much comes down to evra's word. I thought what would turn things in our favour would be spanish experts at an appeal but spanish speakers were brought into the original hearing so that put a pin in that idea.
LFC are right to move the fuck on and that's how I (along with the majority of liverpool fans) voted on the echo site poll (should LFC appeal or move the fuck on).
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=47188.msg1455018#msg1455018 date=1325617486]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
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we wouldn't have won, I read that report (half hour of my life I wont get back) and it was pretty conclusive despite dantes arguments to the contray.
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LOL Neil. If you read that report in a half hour you didnt read that report.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
[/quote]
we wouldn't have won, I read that report (half hour of my life I wont get back) and it was pretty conclusive despite dantes arguments to the contray.
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LOL Neil. If you read that report in a half hour you didnt read that report.
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