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The Suarez/Evra Racism Row

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Well those of us who support and believe Suarez are apparently thick racists. Remember that when you cheer on your club next as the whole club, bar some fans, still supports and believe Suarez which is clear as day from the statement released. According to logic, you support a racist club
 
good people quit. dantes sees it through no matter the cost. why? cos i watched optimus prime die as a kid. luis suarez watched bambi die. im done here.
 
Good post mark. The only point of lodging an appeal would have been to get the matter into court subsequently. If the club has decided that that would have taken too long, with the outcome too uncertain, they'll have done so on the basis of advice, which is fair enough and which it's right we should stand by, however reluctantly.
 
[quote author=vantage link=topic=47188.msg1455030#msg1455030 date=1325617771]
Common sense doesn't make you a lawyer Mark, and frankly I can see why the legal profession is so fucked now.
[/quote]

Arf!
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455036#msg1455036 date=1325617848]
Well those of us who support and believe Suarez are apparently thick racists. Remember that when you cheer on your club next as the whole club, bar some fans, still supports and believe Suarez which is clear as day from the statement released. According to logic, you support a racist club
[/quote]

Oh you've got us there
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
[/quote]

And I would support you by sitting here and being cabbage to those who talked shit about your fight!!! 😉
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455036#msg1455036 date=1325617848]
Well those of us who support and believe Suarez are apparently thick racists. Remember that when you cheer on your club next as the whole club, bar some fans, still supports and believe Suarez which is clear as day from the statement released. According to logic, you support a racist club
[/quote]

The point you're missing is Luis was guilty of that charge even if his evidence was accepted.

if you think he is innocent of the charge then yes you are supporting racism.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1455049#msg1455049 date=1325618041]

if you think he is innocent of the charge then yes you are supporting racism.
[/quote]

can you explain that please, ross?
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1455049#msg1455049 date=1325618041]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455036#msg1455036 date=1325617848]
Well those of us who support and believe Suarez are apparently thick racists. Remember that when you cheer on your club next as the whole club, bar some fans, still supports and believe Suarez which is clear as day from the statement released. According to logic, you support a racist club
[/quote]

The point you're missing is Luis was guilty of that charge even if his evidence was accepted.

if you think he is innocent of the charge then yes you are supporting racism.
[/quote]

I'm not missing any point Ross nor do I support racism. I do not agree with you in the slightest. And are you thus saying I'm a racist ?
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1455012#msg1455012 date=1325617299]
Andy - you've twice in the past few pages insinuated that everyone who didn't follow your point of view is a racist. Please stop - it's not funny.
[/quote]Wizzy for the past three months I have been called a sheep, a shit fan, someone who should 'support the club' someone who doesnt understand what 'you'll never walk alone means' etc etc etc by a bunch of whiney pussyoles who think we should fight all the way to the fucking high court in Zurich or the US senate or some bizarre shit to defend a now CONVICTED racist. When ALL I have done is said IF he was found guilty I would think less of him. But of course the long fingers of Fergie and his friends and the FA and all the Press and the Government and the masons are all against us and poor little hard done Luis and im a shit fan yadda yadda.
But hes been charged and found guilty and suspended and we have accepted that. Despite of course it being a 'kangaroo court' and there being 'a million holes in it' and it being 'EASY to pick to pieces'. We have accepted it. The club now accept the charge. They can say what the fuck they like in their statements (like they did in some of the false ones they made earlier) but ultimately they have run off tail between their legs and said ok hes guilty.
So with all that in mind
Suck my dick.
IMHO of course.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=47188.msg1455051#msg1455051 date=1325618104]
I don't believe suarez is racist just a bit thick for trying to wind up evra and having it blow up in his face.
[/quote]

Ehh... It was Evra who adressed Suarez, trying to wind him up and treathing to kick him and punch him if we are to believe the honourable Shithouse himself.
 
Well, aslong as people are happy to say that the FA don't overly support United over other clubs and are right in their treatment of Suarez, that's fine. We're all just pussyhole, paranoid, conspiracy theorists.

People have missed the point over all of this by a fucking mile.
 
[quote author=vantage link=topic=47188.msg1455024#msg1455024 date=1325617577]
*Dons Pointy hat*

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455002#msg1455002 date=1325616891]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1454993#msg1454993 date=1325616570]
Sunny that you believe what the club is saying now, when we've quite clearly lied and bullshitted to the media all along says a lot.
[/quote]


What the fuck are you quacking on about? The first few paragraphs align exactly with my thoughts. The club does not accept the verdict but feels it has to accept the ban. Luis is innocent.
[/quote]

Well said Sunny. Ross, you're coming across like a right cock in this thread.


[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1455012#msg1455012 date=1325617299]
Andy - you've twice in the past few pages insinuated that everyone who didn't follow your point of view is a racist. Please stop - it's not funny.
[/quote]

Correct as well Whizzy. Oncy, you're turning into a cock as well.

*Removes hat*
[/quote]*shrugs* Give a fuck.
Ive taken as much as ive given in this thread and im not fucking crying about it like a baby.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1455057#msg1455057 date=1325618204]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1455012#msg1455012 date=1325617299]
Andy - you've twice in the past few pages insinuated that everyone who didn't follow your point of view is a racist. Please stop - it's not funny.
[/quote]Wizzy for the past three months I have been called a sheep, a shit fan, someone who should 'support the club' someone who doesnt understand what 'you'll never walk alone means' etc etc etc by a bunch of whiney pussyoles who think we should fight all the way to the fucking high court in Zurich or the US senate or some bizarre shit to defend a now CONVICTED racist. When ALL I have done is said IF he was found guilty I would think less of him. But of course the long fingers of Fergie and his friends and the FA and all the Press and the Government and the masons are all against us and poor little hard done Luis and im a shit fan yadda yadda.
But hes been charged and found guilty and suspended and we have accepted that. Despite of course it being a 'kangaroo court' and there being 'a million holes in it' and it being 'EASY to pick to pieces'. We have accepted it. The club now accept the charge. They can say what the fuck they like in their statements (like they did in some of the false ones they made earlier) but ultimately they have run off tail between their legs and said ok hes guilty.
So with all that in mind
Suck my dick.
IMHO of course.
[/quote]

I'm really really disappointed in you as a person - in fact, I personally find your response pathetic b/c I was asking you as a friend. Cheers.
 
suarez can claim ignorance this time but if he uses negreto(sp) or negro or any other racial slur he should be bombed the fuck out of the club and I don't care if he is our best player but this time I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=47188.msg1455069#msg1455069 date=1325618595]
He's said he won't use those words again, according to one newspaper report I saw.
[/quote]Thats good.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1455067#msg1455067 date=1325618426]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1455057#msg1455057 date=1325618204]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1455012#msg1455012 date=1325617299]
Andy - you've twice in the past few pages insinuated that everyone who didn't follow your point of view is a racist. Please stop - it's not funny.
[/quote]Wizzy for the past three months I have been called a sheep, a shit fan, someone who should 'support the club' someone who doesnt understand what 'you'll never walk alone means' etc etc etc by a bunch of whiney pussyoles who think we should fight all the way to the fucking high court in Zurich or the US senate or some bizarre shit to defend a now CONVICTED racist. When ALL I have done is said IF he was found guilty I would think less of him. But of course the long fingers of Fergie and his friends and the FA and all the Press and the Government and the masons are all against us and poor little hard done Luis and im a shit fan yadda yadda.
But hes been charged and found guilty and suspended and we have accepted that. Despite of course it being a 'kangaroo court' and there being 'a million holes in it' and it being 'EASY to pick to pieces'. We have accepted it. The club now accept the charge. They can say what the fuck they like in their statements (like they did in some of the false ones they made earlier) but ultimately they have run off tail between their legs and said ok hes guilty.
So with all that in mind
Suck my dick.
IMHO of course.
[/quote]

I'm really really disappointed in you as a person - in fact, I personally find your response pathetic b/c I was asking you as a friend. Cheers.
[/quote]You probably should have PM'd me in that case.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=47188.msg1455044#msg1455044 date=1325617981]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455036#msg1455036 date=1325617848]
Well those of us who support and believe Suarez are apparently thick racists. Remember that when you cheer on your club next as the whole club, bar some fans, still supports and believe Suarez which is clear as day from the statement released. According to logic, you support a racist club
[/quote]

Oh you've got us there
[/quote]I know, it's a ridiculous statement as is some of the logic here. Suarez found 'probably guilty' in a farcical one-sided and steered process and, although both accuser and condemning party state he is NOT a racist, he's now labelled a racist by some.
 
Re: Re: The Suarez/Evra Racism Row

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=47188.msg1#msg1 date=1325617486]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455006#msg1455006 date=1325617018]
Personally I'd have fought the FA all the way.
[/quote]

we wouldn't have won, I read that report (half hour of my life I wont get back) and it was pretty conclusive despite dantes arguments to the contray.
[/quote]

Half an hour me hole!
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455056#msg1455056 date=1325618202]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1455049#msg1455049 date=1325618041]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1455036#msg1455036 date=1325617848]
Well those of us who support and believe Suarez are apparently thick racists. Remember that when you cheer on your club next as the whole club, bar some fans, still supports and believe Suarez which is clear as day from the statement released. According to logic, you support a racist club
[/quote]

The point you're missing is Luis was guilty of that charge even if his evidence was accepted.

if you think he is innocent of the charge then yes you are supporting racism.
[/quote]

I'm not missing any point Ross nor do I support racism. I do not agree with you in the slightest. And are you thus saying I'm a racist ?
[/quote]

So you accept his admission and his version of events still make him guilty of the charge. But you think he's innocent.

I'm not sure how I can argue with that.

If you are arguing that Luis and anyone else should be allowed to call black footballers negro then yes you are supporting the use of racist abuse. That doesn't make you a racist in my eyes but it might in some peoples.
 
Wizzy I am sorry. I shouldnt outta have said that to you. You are a good man and didnt deserve to have that directed at you.
I stand by the post but not the insulty bit.

Sorry
:'(
 
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47188.msg1455082#msg1455082 date=1325619028]
In fairness, he probably skipped all sentences with capital letters or punctuation.
[/quote]

Ha ha !
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1455074#msg1455074 date=1325618725]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1455067#msg1455067 date=1325618426]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1455057#msg1455057 date=1325618204]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=47188.msg1455012#msg1455012 date=1325617299]
Andy - you've twice in the past few pages insinuated that everyone who didn't follow your point of view is a racist. Please stop - it's not funny.
[/quote]Wizzy for the past three months I have been called a sheep, a shit fan, someone who should 'support the club' someone who doesnt understand what 'you'll never walk alone means' etc etc etc by a bunch of whiney pussyoles who think we should fight all the way to the fucking high court in Zurich or the US senate or some bizarre shit to defend a now CONVICTED racist. When ALL I have done is said IF he was found guilty I would think less of him. But of course the long fingers of Fergie and his friends and the FA and all the Press and the Government and the masons are all against us and poor little hard done Luis and im a shit fan yadda yadda.
But hes been charged and found guilty and suspended and we have accepted that. Despite of course it being a 'kangaroo court' and there being 'a million holes in it' and it being 'EASY to pick to pieces'. We have accepted it. The club now accept the charge. They can say what the fuck they like in their statements (like they did in some of the false ones they made earlier) but ultimately they have run off tail between their legs and said ok hes guilty.
So with all that in mind
Suck my dick.
IMHO of course.
[/quote]

I'm really really disappointed in you as a person - in fact, I personally find your response pathetic b/c I was asking you as a friend. Cheers.
[/quote]You probably should have PM'd me in that case.
[/quote]

People can take the piss about 'you're being a shit fan' or whatever, fight them back the same way ('cabbage' for example). But calling 'us' (whoever falls under your definition) racists? Is that really the same thing? You really think it's funny calling someone like me part of the 'Aryan brotherhood'? or Sunny? etc ... Sorry, I don't see how those are equal.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47188.msg1455090#msg1455090 date=1325619256]
Not appealing the ban doesnt mean he cant do them for defamation does it?
[/quote]

I guess anyone can accuse Evra for insulting language anyway. He has clearly admitted it himself 🙂
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47188.msg1455090#msg1455090 date=1325619256]
Not appealing the ban doesnt mean he cant do them for defamation does it?
[/quote]

He has absolutely no case against the FA for defamation.

He has the possibility of action against the Mirror, but they'd also have a easily made out defence. It'd be a toss up at best.
 
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