The Suarez/Evra Racism Row
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[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=47188.msg1454872#msg1454872 date=1325609512]
Why did we not have a cabbage poster of the year award at the annual thread we had?
[/quote]Because all the nominees have been in here chatting shit and trying to earn their Junior Jurors hardest triers award.
Why did we not have a cabbage poster of the year award at the annual thread we had?
[/quote]Because all the nominees have been in here chatting shit and trying to earn their Junior Jurors hardest triers award.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47188.msg1454597#msg1454597 date=1325589415]
The evidence against Suarez is his own admission, his account of events that lacks credibility, Evra's statement, Comolli's statement, Kuyt's statement (and other statements which aren't detailed in the report so probably not worth much). The evidence supporting his version of events - there is none. That's his big problem.
You don't need to show one person is lying and the other is not. You look at the totality of the evidence and decide which version of the story is more likely to have happened.
Is it Suarez's uncorroborated, unreliable evidence or is it Evra's evidence (which does have a couple of minor issues), coupled with statements from Kuyt, Comolli and the TV evidence.
There is only one conclusion that can be reached.
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Just wanted to pick up on this one Ross. You say there is no evidence supporting Suarez's version of events then you have to apply the same to Evra's version to which there is no evidence and all of his team mates gave a different version of what was said by Evra? How is this corroborated or reliable ? What about the 'missing' interview with Evra on October 20th for which there was no transcript (our solicitor fucked up on this one). How do we know Evra has not changed his story over the 3 separate interviews and also given him chance to align his story with the video (which still doesnt align no matter how many times you watch it)
Show me where do you see him saying "Dale, negrito, negrito, negrito?"
What Suarez really said to Evra
There's inconsistency and discrepancies all over the place on both sides yet the one side is believed on some half baked concept of "probability".
The following words appear 50 times in the FA report:
Probable
Probably
Probability
Possible
Assume
Whereas the word 'Proven' does not appear at all...
The evidence against Suarez is his own admission, his account of events that lacks credibility, Evra's statement, Comolli's statement, Kuyt's statement (and other statements which aren't detailed in the report so probably not worth much). The evidence supporting his version of events - there is none. That's his big problem.
You don't need to show one person is lying and the other is not. You look at the totality of the evidence and decide which version of the story is more likely to have happened.
Is it Suarez's uncorroborated, unreliable evidence or is it Evra's evidence (which does have a couple of minor issues), coupled with statements from Kuyt, Comolli and the TV evidence.
There is only one conclusion that can be reached.
[/quote]
Just wanted to pick up on this one Ross. You say there is no evidence supporting Suarez's version of events then you have to apply the same to Evra's version to which there is no evidence and all of his team mates gave a different version of what was said by Evra? How is this corroborated or reliable ? What about the 'missing' interview with Evra on October 20th for which there was no transcript (our solicitor fucked up on this one). How do we know Evra has not changed his story over the 3 separate interviews and also given him chance to align his story with the video (which still doesnt align no matter how many times you watch it)
Show me where do you see him saying "Dale, negrito, negrito, negrito?"
What Suarez really said to Evra
There's inconsistency and discrepancies all over the place on both sides yet the one side is believed on some half baked concept of "probability".
The following words appear 50 times in the FA report:
Probable
Probably
Probability
Possible
Assume
Whereas the word 'Proven' does not appear at all...
Do all the people who think Suarez is guilty think the case was even handed?
Is giving 4 statements while watching match footage v giving ONE statement with no match footage even?
Does being convicted because One staement fits in with the match footage, (which he gave while watching it) and the others doesn't and appeared to change a little seem fair?
Does saying he called me N*gger No Black, No Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie ( which is what Evra claimed ) in a crowded goalmouth while NO ONE ELSE heared a fucking thing seem plausible?
Lastly How can what he said in the goalmouth. Then telling Fergie what he said, and Fergie repeating it to the panel be 'corroborating evidence' Its Evra's word twice, look up the meaning of Corroboration for fuck sake.
Can any of you say yes to any of the above?
Can any of you say yes to all of the above?
Its a stich up, it was an ufair one sided trail with the FA determined to stick a Guilty Verdict on him, probably political to get one on Blatter, and maybe get one on LFC too
Is giving 4 statements while watching match footage v giving ONE statement with no match footage even?
Does being convicted because One staement fits in with the match footage, (which he gave while watching it) and the others doesn't and appeared to change a little seem fair?
Does saying he called me N*gger No Black, No Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie ( which is what Evra claimed ) in a crowded goalmouth while NO ONE ELSE heared a fucking thing seem plausible?
Lastly How can what he said in the goalmouth. Then telling Fergie what he said, and Fergie repeating it to the panel be 'corroborating evidence' Its Evra's word twice, look up the meaning of Corroboration for fuck sake.
Can any of you say yes to any of the above?
Can any of you say yes to all of the above?
Its a stich up, it was an ufair one sided trail with the FA determined to stick a Guilty Verdict on him, probably political to get one on Blatter, and maybe get one on LFC too
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1454880#msg1454880 date=1325609985]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=47188.msg1454872#msg1454872 date=1325609512]
Why did we not have a cabbage poster of the year award at the annual thread we had?
[/quote]Because all the nominees have been in here chatting shit and trying to earn their Junior Jurors hardest triers award.
[/quote]
I think you've done enough to earn that award by now mate. Here, have a badge.
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=47188.msg1454872#msg1454872 date=1325609512]
Why did we not have a cabbage poster of the year award at the annual thread we had?
[/quote]Because all the nominees have been in here chatting shit and trying to earn their Junior Jurors hardest triers award.
[/quote]
I think you've done enough to earn that award by now mate. Here, have a badge.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1454883#msg1454883 date=1325610074]
Do all the people who think Suarez is guilty think the case was even handed?
Is giving 4 statements while watching match footage v giving ONE statement with no match footage even?
Does being convicted because One staement fits in with the match footage, (which he gave while watching it) and the others doesn't and appeared to change a little seem fair?
Does saying he called me N*gger No Black, No Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie ( which is what Evra claimed ) in a crowded goalmouth while NO ONE ELSE heared a fucking thing seem plausible?
Lastly How can what he said in the goalmouth. Then telling Fergie what he said, and Fergie repeating it to the panel be
'corroborating evidence' Its Evra's word twice, look up the meaning of Corroboration for fuck sake.
Can any of you say yes to any of the above?
Can any of you say yes to all of the above?
Its a stich up, it was an ufair one sided trail with the FA determined to stick a Guilty Verdict on him, probably political to get one on Blatter, and maybe get one on LFC too
[/quote]
Not forgetting that the language experts said what Evra claims Suarez said would be unusual and not how he would have said it in Spanish, while Suarez versio is correct.
Do all the people who think Suarez is guilty think the case was even handed?
Is giving 4 statements while watching match footage v giving ONE statement with no match footage even?
Does being convicted because One staement fits in with the match footage, (which he gave while watching it) and the others doesn't and appeared to change a little seem fair?
Does saying he called me N*gger No Black, No Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie Blackie ( which is what Evra claimed ) in a crowded goalmouth while NO ONE ELSE heared a fucking thing seem plausible?
Lastly How can what he said in the goalmouth. Then telling Fergie what he said, and Fergie repeating it to the panel be
'corroborating evidence' Its Evra's word twice, look up the meaning of Corroboration for fuck sake.
Can any of you say yes to any of the above?
Can any of you say yes to all of the above?
Its a stich up, it was an ufair one sided trail with the FA determined to stick a Guilty Verdict on him, probably political to get one on Blatter, and maybe get one on LFC too
[/quote]
Not forgetting that the language experts said what Evra claims Suarez said would be unusual and not how he would have said it in Spanish, while Suarez versio is correct.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47188.msg1454884#msg1454884 date=1325610248]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1454880#msg1454880 date=1325609985]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=47188.msg1454872#msg1454872 date=1325609512]
Why did we not have a cabbage poster of the year award at the annual thread we had?
[/quote]Because all the nominees have been in here chatting shit and trying to earn their Junior Jurors hardest triers award.
[/quote]
I think you've done enough to earn that award by now mate. Here, have a badge.
[/quote]I think youll find I havnt posted ANYTHING indicating that i am aware of the criminal law, due process, appeals process, mitigation, probability or any of that other bollocks. Simply because I (like everyone else except Irushie) know fuck all about it. I however UNLIKE everybody else dont think im fucking Quincy.
*throws badge back at Sunny*
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1454880#msg1454880 date=1325609985]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=47188.msg1454872#msg1454872 date=1325609512]
Why did we not have a cabbage poster of the year award at the annual thread we had?
[/quote]Because all the nominees have been in here chatting shit and trying to earn their Junior Jurors hardest triers award.
[/quote]
I think you've done enough to earn that award by now mate. Here, have a badge.
[/quote]I think youll find I havnt posted ANYTHING indicating that i am aware of the criminal law, due process, appeals process, mitigation, probability or any of that other bollocks. Simply because I (like everyone else except Irushie) know fuck all about it. I however UNLIKE everybody else dont think im fucking Quincy.
*throws badge back at Sunny*
Surely Quincy was just a coronor.
Ironside
Chief Wiggum?
Ponch from Chips?
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1454914#msg1454914 date=1325611441]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1454911#msg1454911 date=1325611387]
Ponch from Chips?
[/quote]As long as he was the white one. We dont wanna stir these racists up again.
[/quote]
Erik Estrada.........oooooooooh, dunno.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47188.msg1454911#msg1454911 date=1325611387]
Ponch from Chips?
[/quote]As long as he was the white one. We dont wanna stir these racists up again.
[/quote]
Erik Estrada.........oooooooooh, dunno.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47188.msg1454917#msg1454917 date=1325611476]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1454912#msg1454912 date=1325611399]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47188.msg1454908#msg1454908 date=1325611343]
Chief Wiggum?
[/quote]Perfect.
[/quote]
So everyone who thinks the FA case is flawed is Chief Wiggum?
[/quote]Did I mention on which side of the argument everybody claimed to be Quincey on?
I think not.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47188.msg1454912#msg1454912 date=1325611399]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47188.msg1454908#msg1454908 date=1325611343]
Chief Wiggum?
[/quote]Perfect.
[/quote]
So everyone who thinks the FA case is flawed is Chief Wiggum?
[/quote]Did I mention on which side of the argument everybody claimed to be Quincey on?
I think not.
Erik Estrada wasn't black, Oncy you crazy bastard.
Nigel Bridge?
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47188.msg1454929#msg1454929 date=1325611793]
BREAKING NEWS: Liverpool players to wear T-shirts tonight in support of Gary Dobson and David Norris
[/quote]Lol.
There isnt even any testimony against them two, just a couple of hairs.
Fucking Fergie!!
BREAKING NEWS: Liverpool players to wear T-shirts tonight in support of Gary Dobson and David Norris
[/quote]Lol.
There isnt even any testimony against them two, just a couple of hairs.
Fucking Fergie!!
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