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The Donkey

From what I understand, they liked him, but knew he was a departure from the system, and the type of player he was, and were thus reluctant, and unsure if he would work out. Kloppo loved him, and had so much power at that point, he was able to get the signing without the full agreement of the anoraks. Arthur was Jan 22 I think?
Melo was signed in last days of summer transfer in 2022 for a loan fee of 4m
I think. Was a bit of a panic CM signing after we had some injuries I think.
 
Thanks @King Binny

"Núñez was very much a Klopp signing (Liverpool’s recruitment think-tank preferred Christopher Nkunku, then of RB Leipzig, who has spent this season injured at Chelsea) and the manager spoke about how it is his responsibility to provide the player with the confidence to perform."

 
Point is Klopp wasn’t the only one asking for Nunez. He was also very much the fav here at the time to replace Mane, it just didn’t work out.
 
was there not about 3 months where lucas was really good before the knee injury completely ruined him
 
Wasn't Lucas originally brought in as an AM and played as such by Rafa or did I just imagine that?

Maybe he could've had a better career for us if he was left as such, although I do understand how I may be clutching at straws here.
 
I know all those chances against us for Benfica were called back for offside. But am I remembering correctly that he found the back of the net for most/all of them?

Where did that Darwin Nunez go? The lethal finisher who just needed to learn the offside rule.

It didn’t go anywhere - it stayed exactly where it is, as the one and only season in his career to date where he scored a pile of goals.

We took a gamble on that being the new norm as a breakthrough season rather than an outlier.

Seems it was the latter after all.
 
“I think Liverpool should cut their losses with Darwin Nunez,” Pennant said. “He cost so much money and is up there with one of Liverpool’s highest-paid players. He’s just not giving Liverpool what they paid for – yes, he works his socks off and the fans love him, bringing something different to the team, but ultimately you want goals.

“Especially for that price tag, you expect returns to justify that fee, I think after this season – which is his third – we’re not going to see any improvement in the fourth or fifth. This is it now, this is the final product of Darwin Nunez. No disrespect to him, but he’s not on the level as a player that Liverpool are as a team.


“Liverpool has had some great number nines in the past, and Nunez falls short of them. I think it’d be wise to offload him somewhere in Europe and invest the money they get for him elsewhere. There was all that chat when he joined being compared to Erling Haaland when he went to Manchester City, but he just hasn’t got up to speed in the Premier League like Haaland has.”

In terms of who should replace Nunez on Merseyside, Pennant is convinced that Newcastle forward Alexander Isak is the perfect fit for Slot.

The Sweden international has scored 43 goals in 83 appearances for Newcastle over the past three seasons
, attracting interest from the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea as a result.

“He scores every time he plays against Liverpool! Not only that, but he’s also a proven goal scorer and is a real handful for defenders.

“His movement is great, he’s quick and can bring in other players as well. He has all the attributes of fantastic number nine.

“That goal against Liverpool recently was all his creation, it was him getting the ball out of his feet and striking it into the back of the net and it’s not the first time we’ve seen that.”
 
“I think Liverpool should cut their losses with Darwin Nunez,” Pennant said. “He cost so much money and is up there with one of Liverpool’s highest-paid players. He’s just not giving Liverpool what they paid for – yes, he works his socks off and the fans love him, bringing something different to the team, but ultimately you want goals.

“Especially for that price tag, you expect returns to justify that fee, I think after this season – which is his third – we’re not going to see any improvement in the fourth or fifth. This is it now, this is the final product of Darwin Nunez. No disrespect to him, but he’s not on the level as a player that Liverpool are as a team.


“Liverpool has had some great number nines in the past, and Nunez falls short of them. I think it’d be wise to offload him somewhere in Europe and invest the money they get for him elsewhere. There was all that chat when he joined being compared to Erling Haaland when he went to Manchester City, but he just hasn’t got up to speed in the Premier League like Haaland has.”

In terms of who should replace Nunez on Merseyside, Pennant is convinced that Newcastle forward Alexander Isak is the perfect fit for Slot.

The Sweden international has scored 43 goals in 83 appearances for Newcastle over the past three seasons
, attracting interest from the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea as a result.

“He scores every time he plays against Liverpool! Not only that, but he’s also a proven goal scorer and is a real handful for defenders.

“His movement is great, he’s quick and can bring in other players as well. He has all the attributes of fantastic number nine.

“That goal against Liverpool recently was all his creation, it was him getting the ball out of his feet and striking it into the back of the net and it’s not the first time we’ve seen that.”

Well that's funny. Coming from Pennant himself.
 

View: https://x.com/TheRedmenTV/status/1869103554696524183

I like this empathetic, but honest take from Ricky Lambert, who knows exactly how it feels to fail as a Liverpool striker. He’s probably right in his assesment of where Nunez is now.

Interesting that Torres is mentioned as an example of success, but in truth he was both a success and a failure - had we not timed the sale to Chelsea so perfectly, we would have absolutely hated the player he had become. Which proves Lambert’s point - you have to be at the absolute top of your game to make it at Liverpool, particularly as a main striker. I really don’t think Nunez is as bad as he’s currently playing, but the pressure is clearly getting to him.
 
To play up front for us you have to have insane levels of self-belief and be ruthless. That’s what we had with Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez and Sturridge. Nunez does not have either of those things going for him.
 

View: https://x.com/TheRedmenTV/status/1869103554696524183

I like this empathetic, but honest take from Ricky Lambert, who knows exactly how it feels to fail as a Liverpool striker. He’s probably right in his assesment of where Nunez is now.

Interesting that Torres is mentioned as an example of success, but in truth he was both a success and a failure - had we not timed the sale to Chelsea so perfectly, we would have absolutely hated the player he had become. Which proves Lambert’s point - you have to be at the absolute top of your game to make it at Liverpool, particularly as a main striker. I really don’t think Nunez is as bad as he’s currently playing, but the pressure is clearly getting to him.


I generally agree with his take on Nunez, but I disagree that fans will run out of patience. He’s been afforded more patience at Anfield than he’d likely receive at any other big club in England. He’s going to be backed throughout his time here because he works tirelessly. The real issue for Nunez seems to be that he’s paying attention to social media commentary, which is understandably affecting him.

As for Torres, if he had stayed, the injuries would have been hugely frustrating, but his performance levels would have been judged in comparison to the rest of the squad. There would have been a gradual acceptance that he could no longer carry the team. However, given that the squad at the time included the likes of Konchesky, Degen, and Joe Cole playing regularly, I think fans’ frustrations would have been directed elsewhere, considering how much Torres had already delivered for the club.
 

View: https://x.com/TheRedmenTV/status/1869103554696524183

I like this empathetic, but honest take from Ricky Lambert, who knows exactly how it feels to fail as a Liverpool striker. He’s probably right in his assesment of where Nunez is now.

Interesting that Torres is mentioned as an example of success, but in truth he was both a success and a failure - had we not timed the sale to Chelsea so perfectly, we would have absolutely hated the player he had become. Which proves Lambert’s point - you have to be at the absolute top of your game to make it at Liverpool, particularly as a main striker. I really don’t think Nunez is as bad as he’s currently playing, but the pressure is clearly getting to him.


There is zero chance that we would have viewed Torres's time here as a failure if he had stayed with us. The memories he gave us, the goals he scored, the sheer attitude he showed on the pitch. There would have been some grumblings but on the whole, we don't forget those things.
 
Lambert doesn't just think he can harness talent from Nunez, he thinks he can harness 5g from the rings of Saturn.
Absolutely. I know Fowler took some criticism for saying he was a better striker in all areas except pace compared to Michael Owen, but it’s a testament to the self-belief a player needs. Whether fans agree or not is irrelevant—they should appreciate that kind of confidence in the first place because it's what's needed to succeed.
 
But Fowler was right. It's not all just the socials. Everyone around me was groaning as he was about to come on on Saturday, especially with an in form Gakpo going off. But he got an assist and didn't do anything too stupid so turned out ok. The majority of fans will be glad to see the back of him, even if we chant his name when he flies in on someone.
 
There is zero chance that we would have viewed Torres's time here as a failure if he had stayed with us. The memories he gave us, the goals he scored, the sheer attitude he showed on the pitch. There would have been some grumblings but on the whole, we don't forget those things.
His form probably wouldn't have slumped the way it did at Chelsea either. You could tell by his body language he wasn't feeling the same when he left.
 
Absolutely. I know Fowler took some criticism for saying he was a better striker in all areas except pace compared to Michael Owen, but it’s a testament to the self-belief a player needs. Whether fans agree or not is irrelevant—they should appreciate that kind of confidence in the first place because it's what's needed to succeed.
No clue why fowler would have got grief. He was better in practically all aspects of being a forward than owen. He was just let down by injuries and potential off field issues
 
But Fowler was right. It's not all just the socials. Everyone around me was groaning as he was about to come on on Saturday, especially with an in form Gakpo going off. But he got an assist and didn't do anything too stupid so turned out ok. The majority of fans will be glad to see the back of him, even if we chant his name when he flies in on someone.

We could easily see the club offload Jota instead this summer given that he’s 28, injury prone and will have 2 years left on his deal.
At this rate I’d sell both of them even though I love Jota.
 
We could easily see the club offload Jota instead this summer given that he’s 28, injury prone and will have 2 years left on his deal.
At this rate I’d sell both of them even though I love Jota.
Yeah, there is a case for selling Jota for sure. Which means we need to buy not one but two great strikers.
 
But Fowler was right. It's not all just the socials. Everyone around me was groaning as he was about to come on on Saturday, especially with an in form Gakpo going off. But he got an assist and didn't do anything too stupid so turned out ok. The majority of fans will be glad to see the back of him, even if we chant his name when he flies in on someone.
Yeah my wife was at the Emirates last season for the Arsenal FA cup tie. So she was in the away end her first ever live footy, she told me it was like this "Nunez, Nunez, Nunez !!!!" - while he was running around and doing his chaos stuff, and then he would trip over and the away fans would be like "Nunez you cunt get the fuck up you lazy shit..". It is the amazing the contrast, I think people just like chanting the Nunez stuff knowing full well how shit he is.
 
Yeah my wife was at the Emirates last season for the Arsenal FA cup tie. So she was in the away end her first ever live footy, she told me it was like this "Nunez, Nunez, Nunez !!!!" - while he was running around and doing his chaos stuff, and then he would trip over and the away fans would be like "Nunez you cunt get the fuck up you lazy shit..". It is the amazing the contrast, I think people just like chanting the Nunez stuff knowing full well how shit he is.
Real wife?
 
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