[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=36574.msg968574#msg968574 date=1256199892]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=36574.msg967444#msg967444 date=1256099212]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36574.msg967437#msg967437 date=1256097858]
You have to create your own luck...
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
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Yes there's a coincidence, it's that whenever any manager fails, they get compared to the failure of the previous, the same way that idiots compare any intractable war america involves itself in to vietnam. The fact that there is a lazy obvious comparison to make, which by the way, was made every single one of Rafa's seasons in charge, including last year, doesn't make it a valid comparison. It just makes you an idiot.
And you are bringing it up now? Because yes, we should have thrown caution to the wind against a good attacking team with our makeshift squad.
Rafa proved he isn't essentially conservative, last season, the way we've played this season hasn't been essentially conservative either.
Mourinho was never cautious? Ferguson wasn't cautious? How many 1-0s propelled both of those teams to titles. Our issue at present isn't attitudinal, it's that we don't have the defensive ability that either of those teams have, and we don't have the defensive ability that has propelled us to all our best results in the past. That has allowed a lot of doubt to creep into our play, which is magnified immensely when our team is gutted by injury, because our squad is thin.
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Come on Farky, you've got to be kidding mate. They might have a reputation of being a good attacking team but Lyon were poor against us pure and simple. Sure they had a couple of players who could make something out of nothing but then the same is true of most players.
This talk about us not being cautious is just baffling; we are cautious as a squad, a team and a manager. There are periods during the season where we throw off those shackles but each time it turns out to be simply a temporary shift and then, eventually, normal service is restored.
If we're going to go down then I'd like to see us go down guns blazing rather than in damage control. Show some arrogance and confidence that we've got the talent and the capability to come back from anywhere. Lyon looked more surprised than us to be leading and we should have gone after them rather than seek to control the game and see what happened.
I'm constantly befuddled by Rafa and his decisions; just when you think he's taking a direction he changes it and you wonder where we are and where we're going again. He's done so much good stuff but I find it really questionable whether he will ever win the title in England.
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Exactly, you think he has learned from his mistakes, but he keeps kidding you. I vowed that would not happen to me again last year.
regards
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=36574.msg967444#msg967444 date=1256099212]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36574.msg967437#msg967437 date=1256097858]
You have to create your own luck...
And that luck will go very often against you if you're an over cautious team that prefers not to lose instead of wining.
You sound like Houiller and so does Rafa, as I said many times their reign is very similar.
Only cautious and under-pressure managers talk about how unlucky their teams are.
Ferguson and Mourinho's teams are always lucky, Houiller and Rafas are always unlucky and walking on a fine line...
Coincidence?
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Yes there's a coincidence, it's that whenever any manager fails, they get compared to the failure of the previous, the same way that idiots compare any intractable war america involves itself in to vietnam. The fact that there is a lazy obvious comparison to make, which by the way, was made every single one of Rafa's seasons in charge, including last year, doesn't make it a valid comparison. It just makes you an idiot.
And you are bringing it up now? Because yes, we should have thrown caution to the wind against a good attacking team with our makeshift squad.
Rafa proved he isn't essentially conservative, last season, the way we've played this season hasn't been essentially conservative either.
Mourinho was never cautious? Ferguson wasn't cautious? How many 1-0s propelled both of those teams to titles. Our issue at present isn't attitudinal, it's that we don't have the defensive ability that either of those teams have, and we don't have the defensive ability that has propelled us to all our best results in the past. That has allowed a lot of doubt to creep into our play, which is magnified immensely when our team is gutted by injury, because our squad is thin.
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Come on Farky, you've got to be kidding mate. They might have a reputation of being a good attacking team but Lyon were poor against us pure and simple. Sure they had a couple of players who could make something out of nothing but then the same is true of most players.
This talk about us not being cautious is just baffling; we are cautious as a squad, a team and a manager. There are periods during the season where we throw off those shackles but each time it turns out to be simply a temporary shift and then, eventually, normal service is restored.
If we're going to go down then I'd like to see us go down guns blazing rather than in damage control. Show some arrogance and confidence that we've got the talent and the capability to come back from anywhere. Lyon looked more surprised than us to be leading and we should have gone after them rather than seek to control the game and see what happened.
I'm constantly befuddled by Rafa and his decisions; just when you think he's taking a direction he changes it and you wonder where we are and where we're going again. He's done so much good stuff but I find it really questionable whether he will ever win the title in England.
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Exactly, you think he has learned from his mistakes, but he keeps kidding you. I vowed that would not happen to me again last year.
regards
