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THE ASHES... 2009
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[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=33622.msg895130#msg895130 date=1245950365]
It's what, 2/3 weeks to The Ashes. Ryan/Roopy, the build up is non existent here (in WA). I'm 100% sure when it starts it will be headline but I'd expected to see more by now. What's it like where you are?
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To be honest mate, it's quite quiet here in VIC, but that's understandable given that footy season is in full swing, and err... Brad Hodge didn't make the touring party.
Seriosuly though, they were chatting about Phil Hughes and other stuff on talkback radio this morning, claiming he'll be the hit of the summer. I'm not so sure; he goes too hard at it, too early. And I think he might struggle with the swinging ball. Fortunately for Australia, they've got Ponting, Clarke, and Hussey to follow him.
It's what, 2/3 weeks to The Ashes. Ryan/Roopy, the build up is non existent here (in WA). I'm 100% sure when it starts it will be headline but I'd expected to see more by now. What's it like where you are?
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To be honest mate, it's quite quiet here in VIC, but that's understandable given that footy season is in full swing, and err... Brad Hodge didn't make the touring party.
Seriosuly though, they were chatting about Phil Hughes and other stuff on talkback radio this morning, claiming he'll be the hit of the summer. I'm not so sure; he goes too hard at it, too early. And I think he might struggle with the swinging ball. Fortunately for Australia, they've got Ponting, Clarke, and Hussey to follow him.
Right, are we gonna make a stab at the starting sides for Cardiff?
I'll have a go...
England:
1 - Cook
2 - Strauss
3 - Bopara
4 - KP
5 - Collingwood
6 - Prior
7 - Flintoff
8 - Swann
9 - Broad
10 - Onions
11 - Andersen
12th Man - Panesar
Australia:
1 - Katich
2 - Hughes
3 - Ponting
4 - Clarke
5 - Hussey
6 - Watson
7 - Haddin
8 - Johnson
9 - Lee
10 - Siddle
11 - Clark or Hauritz
12th Man - Clark or Hauritz
I wouldn't be surprised to see Sidebottom get the nod ahead of Onions though.
I'll have a go...
England:
1 - Cook
2 - Strauss
3 - Bopara
4 - KP
5 - Collingwood
6 - Prior
7 - Flintoff
8 - Swann
9 - Broad
10 - Onions
11 - Andersen
12th Man - Panesar
Australia:
1 - Katich
2 - Hughes
3 - Ponting
4 - Clarke
5 - Hussey
6 - Watson
7 - Haddin
8 - Johnson
9 - Lee
10 - Siddle
11 - Clark or Hauritz
12th Man - Clark or Hauritz
I wouldn't be surprised to see Sidebottom get the nod ahead of Onions though.
Was reading somewhere that the pitch has been turning sideways lately, if that is the case I would have Rashid in for Onions/Sidebottom.
Well apparently both sides are having trouble deducing what the pitch is actually gonna do. till, though it's the first test and selctors will go for experience combined with recent prowess, meaning that the likes of Panesar, Onions, Hauritz, and Hilfenhaus will probably miss out regardless of how much turn there is.
I agree Rafa, and I'm hoping Rashid gets he nod.
For one he's a leggie, two, he's an unknown quantity to the Aussies, and three, Panesar was spanked to all territories last time the two sides met and goes too defensive when things aren't going his way.
For one he's a leggie, two, he's an unknown quantity to the Aussies, and three, Panesar was spanked to all territories last time the two sides met and goes too defensive when things aren't going his way.
[quote author=TheFasterBlade link=topic=33622.msg897674#msg897674 date=1246356098]
I agree Rafa, and I'm hoping Rashid gets he nod.
For one he's a leggie, two, he's an unknown quantity to the Aussies, and three, Panesar was spanked to all territories last time the two sides met and goes too defensive when things aren't going his way.
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The Cardiff Pitch has been taking spin on day one of the county games, so it's a must i think for 2 spinners.
Yeah i'd go for Adil as well, allthough i think the selectors will go for the conservative pick in Monty (Onions looks like the player to miss out). Rashid is a star in the making, not only will he be a top draw bowler, but he'll be a more than useful batsman too (he's allready got a few 1st class tons to his name).
One slight positive regarding Englands chances, Hauritz took 1 -160 (38 overs) in the tour match last week.
I agree Rafa, and I'm hoping Rashid gets he nod.
For one he's a leggie, two, he's an unknown quantity to the Aussies, and three, Panesar was spanked to all territories last time the two sides met and goes too defensive when things aren't going his way.
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The Cardiff Pitch has been taking spin on day one of the county games, so it's a must i think for 2 spinners.
Yeah i'd go for Adil as well, allthough i think the selectors will go for the conservative pick in Monty (Onions looks like the player to miss out). Rashid is a star in the making, not only will he be a top draw bowler, but he'll be a more than useful batsman too (he's allready got a few 1st class tons to his name).
One slight positive regarding Englands chances, Hauritz took 1 -160 (38 overs) in the tour match last week.
I don't follow cricket at all so may be missing something obvious, but why are England and Australia playing in Wales?
And another thing, why is all the build up referring to when England won, and ignoring that last time they got hammered (5-0 I believe?)
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=33622.msg897774#msg897774 date=1246369008]
I don't follow cricket at all so may be missing something obvious, but why are England and Australia playing in Wales?
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It's the England & Wales cricket board, the team should be renamed accordingly too. Any ground under the boards control that can meet the required standards, can in effect bid to host Test matches.
I don't follow cricket at all so may be missing something obvious, but why are England and Australia playing in Wales?
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It's the England & Wales cricket board, the team should be renamed accordingly too. Any ground under the boards control that can meet the required standards, can in effect bid to host Test matches.
Ah, thanks.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33622.msg898037#msg898037 date=1246406002]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg897654#msg897654 date=1246354429]
England will play 2 spinners at Cardiff.
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So, who will lose out then if Rashid or Panesar plays? Sidebottom?
I'm not so sure.
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Yeah Sidebottom or Onions will be the players to miss out i think.
This is the test team imo (it's also the team named to play today):
Andrew Strauss (captain)
Alastair Cook
Ravi Bopara
Kevin Pietersen
Paul Collingwood
Matt Prior
Andrew Flintoff
Stuart Broad
Graeme Swann
James Anderson
Monty Panesar
Steve Harmison will get recalled into test side squad once we move onto the quicker wickets. He's playing against the Aussies today and he's bowling exceptionally well at present (6-6-1)
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg897654#msg897654 date=1246354429]
England will play 2 spinners at Cardiff.
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So, who will lose out then if Rashid or Panesar plays? Sidebottom?
I'm not so sure.
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Yeah Sidebottom or Onions will be the players to miss out i think.
This is the test team imo (it's also the team named to play today):
Andrew Strauss (captain)
Alastair Cook
Ravi Bopara
Kevin Pietersen
Paul Collingwood
Matt Prior
Andrew Flintoff
Stuart Broad
Graeme Swann
James Anderson
Monty Panesar
Steve Harmison will get recalled into test side squad once we move onto the quicker wickets. He's playing against the Aussies today and he's bowling exceptionally well at present (6-6-1)
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33622.msg899166#msg899166 date=1246587742]
Brett Lee's bowled himself into the starting side after yesterday's 5-47 against the Lions.
He's lost a lot of his pace, but if he can swing it both ways like he did yesterday, then he could cause problems.
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Unfortunately he hasn't. He was bowling at 93-94 MPH consistently yesterday on a very slow pitch.
Brett Lee's bowled himself into the starting side after yesterday's 5-47 against the Lions.
He's lost a lot of his pace, but if he can swing it both ways like he did yesterday, then he could cause problems.
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Unfortunately he hasn't. He was bowling at 93-94 MPH consistently yesterday on a very slow pitch.
where he will bowl as many wides in one match as the entire aussie team in the whole series.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg899405#msg899405 date=1246622036]
SH bounces out Hughes again. The talk is that maybe Harmison is bowling himself into contention for the 1st test.
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I hope he's selected.
Cook, Strauss, Bopara, Pietersen, Collingwood, Flintoff, Prior, Broad, Swann, Harmison, Anderson.
SH bounces out Hughes again. The talk is that maybe Harmison is bowling himself into contention for the 1st test.
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I hope he's selected.
Cook, Strauss, Bopara, Pietersen, Collingwood, Flintoff, Prior, Broad, Swann, Harmison, Anderson.
Harmison won't be selected, and Flintoff will bat number seven.
England Squad... No GB Harmison.
No prizes for guessing the two to miss out come Wednesday... Freddie & Bell.
England squad:
Andrew Strauss (captain),
Alastair Cook,
Ravi Bopara,
Kevin Pietersen,
Paul Collingwood,
Matt Prior,
Andrew Flintoff,
Stuart Broad,
Graeme Swann,
Jimmy Anderson,
Monty Panesar,
Ian Bell,
Graham Onions.
No prizes for guessing the two to miss out come Wednesday... Freddie & Bell.
England squad:
Andrew Strauss (captain),
Alastair Cook,
Ravi Bopara,
Kevin Pietersen,
Paul Collingwood,
Matt Prior,
Andrew Flintoff,
Stuart Broad,
Graeme Swann,
Jimmy Anderson,
Monty Panesar,
Ian Bell,
Graham Onions.
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=33622.msg900595#msg900595 date=1246787713]
No prizes for guessing the two to miss out come Wednesday... Freddie & Bell.
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Am I missing something? Why the fuck would Flintoff miss out?
No prizes for guessing the two to miss out come Wednesday... Freddie & Bell.
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Am I missing something? Why the fuck would Flintoff miss out?
[quote author=TheFasterBlade link=topic=33622.msg900627#msg900627 date=1246792930]
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=33622.msg900595#msg900595 date=1246787713]
No prizes for guessing the two to miss out come Wednesday... Freddie & Bell.
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I may be wrong, but whats his bowling/batting figures like for the season? I think they've included him for fear factor. Onions has been on fire for Durham, hence why I think he'll get the nod.
That said, if the aussies maul England in the 1st test, I expect Freddie to play in the 2nd.
Am I missing something? Why the fuck would Flintoff miss out?
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[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=33622.msg900595#msg900595 date=1246787713]
No prizes for guessing the two to miss out come Wednesday... Freddie & Bell.
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I may be wrong, but whats his bowling/batting figures like for the season? I think they've included him for fear factor. Onions has been on fire for Durham, hence why I think he'll get the nod.
That said, if the aussies maul England in the 1st test, I expect Freddie to play in the 2nd.
Am I missing something? Why the fuck would Flintoff miss out?
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I think if Flintoff is upright and less than 3/4 pissed he will be in our starting XI come the first test.
He is a talisman, and one of only a couple of our players the Aussies fear.
I agree about Onions' form, but he is only a chance if we only play one spinner, and even then I believe Sidebottom is a more likely choice.
He is a talisman, and one of only a couple of our players the Aussies fear.
I agree about Onions' form, but he is only a chance if we only play one spinner, and even then I believe Sidebottom is a more likely choice.
Whoops.
O.K. then, straight choice between Onions and Panesar. I'd play Onions.
O.K. then, straight choice between Onions and Panesar. I'd play Onions.
