Tevez - too depressed to return

[ankreds]

Tevez and Suarez in the same team 😛

 

[Molbystwin]

[quote author=StevieM link=topic=47530.msg1426385#msg1426385 date=1321368799]
Man shitty should just stop paying the cunt.

Let the fucker sue them.

They should fucking sue the prick for failing to fulfill his contractual obligations.

I hope man shitty make an example of him. It's about time the balance was redressed.
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I agree i think that would be fair, sadly the field is slanted so heavily in the players favour that it cant happen that way Tevez would no doubt be able to claim himself a free agent and join another club for free. For the good of the game we need to have a worldwide ban on agents, or at least have the "useful" work that they do done centrally, this Joorabchian cunt is clearly a total cunt.

Man city need support from the other clubs IMO and UEFA need to step in on man citys side also, if they stop paying/playing Tevez then Tevez can just walk and they are the best part of 50M in transfer fees and wages out of pocket... Man city could do the league a big favour if there stance is strong enough and Tevez gets his just deserts.

I reckon that sheikh may well have plenty enough power, financially at least...

 

[Skullflower]

i'm sick of paying taxes for all these 'depressed' people. they should just be left to die, i think.

 

[Ryan]

"I find it hard to believe he can be 'depressed' given the money he earns"

I hate Stan Collymore as much as the next hombre but that Line from John Gregory has to be one of the most astounding ever.

 

[Spionkop69]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=47530.msg1426779#msg1426779 date=1321451927]
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=47530.msg1426672#msg1426672 date=1321435162]
The total lack of understanding of depression in this thread, its causes and also its consequences are to be frank, quite shocking.

Wonderfully glib comments that help maintain the stigma of mental illness, when in fact hundreds of millions of people are suffering from this around the world. It might be too simplistic for some of you to understand but in the hope that some of you get it - just because he earns hundreds of thousands of pounds a month to play a game we all love, does not leave him immune from depression.

He may well be a cunt, but if he is suffering from depression, then its not something I'd wish on anyone. But carry on and mock away.
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I don't think there is genuinely a lack of understanding or empathy. Not on this forum anyway, which to me is made up of a pretty well rounded bunch of people.

It's very easy to take a topic and tread the moral high ground simply because something like depression has surfaced very visibly. I don't know how much value that has though. It's a football forum and the reaction to someone like Tevez claiming he has depression was a fairly predictable one and in mind makes no statement about the wider issue at hand.

I didn't see many, if any, rush to Rooney's defence when he got his hair transplants. For all we know he may have been suffering from genuine anxieties about his hair, which was impacting his life in some significant way as depression might.
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Oh I agree, but with regards to taking the moral high ground? I actually believe and was trying to convey the other side of the argument from a depression point of view. I now know there are plenty of people who think I've behaved like a cunt when I genuinely wasn't trying to be that, its just that the I was not able to break the cycle of triggers to behaviours among many things.

Yeah, the reaction is pretty predictable but its actually sad. Like I said, and this is me taking the moral high ground, wishing cancer on someone is vilified but wishing mocking mental illness isn't? Its not really for any of us to say whether he is depressed, but some of the glib "how can he be depressed on that sort of money" comments are the sort of ill judged and show naiveness to towards a very common illness.

This is going a bit General Chat, but depression needs to be understood better not mocked by people.

Oh and the Wayne Rooney comment is moot because he never claimed to have depression. If he had the said that then the responses would have been worse because of who he plays for, but I'd have still come to his defence because of dealings with the issue.

We will probably never know the truth of whether he is or isn't and more to the point many will not believe him if he is officially diagnosed anyway!

 

[darkstarexodus]

With the disclaimer that I havent read/seen the actuak interview or report where Tevez claims to be depressed, Id suggest that it is Tevez who is lacking empathy and being disrespectful towards sufferers of Major Depression. Whike it is certainly possible that he is actually depressed it is considerably more likely that he threw the term iut there when really intending to refer to being upset or in a rut or the like. While these temporary shifts in mental state can be awful, using the term 'depression' to refer to them is far more disrespectful to those who actually suffer from clinical depression than those who mock Tevez.

And depression can indeed strike people of any age, social class or financial status. And it does not have to be the direct result of a sequence of unfortunate results or a major catastrophe, though loss like a divorce or death in the family can often be the trigger. Speaking as a health care professional, I do think antidepressants are probably the most oveprescribed and improperly prescribed class of medications around, primarily because the majority of people for whom they are prescribed are 'in a rut' rather than suffering from true Major Depression and also because physiciansand patients alike use medication as a substitute for tackling any underlying issues with therapy (of.which there are a number of kinds) instead of as a tool to be used in conjunction with a more holistic approach.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Tevez has proven before when has a point to prove in English football he's unplayable.

I'd take him in a heartbeat.

 

[King Binny]

CARLOS TEVEZ has vowed not to quit football and will tough out his enforced return to Manchester City.

There were fears the 27-yearold Argentinian striker would turn his back on the game if he couldn’t resolve his dispute with City in the January window.

But despite seeing a move to AC Milan break down on Friday night Tevez will return to Manchester and report to City’s training ground at Carrington, possibly on Thursday.

Tevez hasn’t been at the club since making an unauthorized trip to Buenos Aires in November for which he was fined £1.2 million.

But with the transfer window set to close on Tuesday night and no move in sight for Tevez ,the unhappy South American knows he has no option but to return to City.

It is believed Tevez did consider quitting earlier this season when his spat with manager Roberto Mancini and the club was raging.

Tevez was thought to be at a low ebb and considering his future following his row with Mancini, sparked by his refusal to continue warming up during the Champions League game with Bayern Munich last September.

Tevez now has a fresh determination to reach the end of the season with City – even though it means playing and training with the Elite Development Squad and having no training contact with the first team.

Tevez will then hope to get his ticket out of the club despite having two years left on his contract.

By then his value will have decreased to around £24m – and Paris St Germain will be major players for his signature.

Milan is still the preferred choice for Tevez but a move to Paris could become more viable if the French club are in the Champions League next season.

PSG boss Carlo Ancelotti is a big fan of Tevez and wants him to spearhead the next phase of the club’s development – in much the same way he helped fire City into the top four of the Premier League last season.

Tevez and his advisors will keep a close eye on how PSG perform in the second half of the season – and a move to Ligue 1 could be a summer option.

 

[themn]

I used to really really like Carlos Tevez.

 

[Vlads Quiff]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47530.msg1426145#msg1426145 date=1321345946]
Apparently this is his latest stunt to avoid returning to Man City.

Does everyone remember how the Bosman situation arose ? It came about when a club started taking the complete piss by refusing to renew Bosman's deal on reasonable terms while at the same time refusing to sell him to anyone, leaving him unpaid and unable to play anywhere else. As a result of one club acting completely unreasonably football's transfer system was turned on it's head and enormous power was handed to players.

I think Tevez represents an opportunity for City to strike back for clubs. It's ridiculous that clubs have absolutely no prospect of resolving a situation like this without taking a massive loss on a player. Tevez's actions are pretty much indefensible, and the PFA has admitted as much. For the good of football City need to act.
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Well if anyone can, City can.
They should give them a credit for the £25m in the financial fair play accounting and just let him rot without being able to play again, if he stays away they just don't pay him, simples.............

Having said that I would still take the ugly tit on a short term contract or loan, where it would be easy to move him on

regards

 

[the count]

I am not sure a loan move for Tevez would be wise considering he hasn't played a match in over three months.
He hasn't even been at Man C since November so you would have to question his levels of fitness.
It could take the rest of the season just to get him match fit again