we head into the summer expecting the likes of tevez and silva but the reality is we'll end the summer with the likes of johnson and downing.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33378.msg870425#msg870425 date=1242733809]
we head into the summer expecting the likes of tevez and silva but the reality is we'll end the summer with the likes of johnson and downing.
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You're full of the joys of lfe again i see spidey.
we head into the summer expecting the likes of tevez and silva but the reality is we'll end the summer with the likes of johnson and downing.
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You're full of the joys of lfe again i see spidey.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33378.msg870425#msg870425 date=1242733809]
we head into the summer expecting the likes of tevez and silva but the reality is we'll end the summer with the likes of johnson and downing.
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we head into the summer expecting the likes of tevez and silva but the reality is we'll end the summer with the likes of johnson and downing.
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Apart from when we bought players like Torres, Keane, Masher and Alonso
Beat me to it. Some posters really aren't happy unless they're unhappy.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870375#msg870375 date=1242728092]
Tevez would win over every Liverpool fan out there within his first four games.
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and no-one said that about Keane?
Tevez would win over every Liverpool fan out there within his first four games.
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and no-one said that about Keane?
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[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870375#msg870375 date=1242728092]
Tevez would win over every Liverpool fan out there within his first four games.
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and no-one said that about Keane?
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Uh, well I never thought that. I knew Keane was a disaster signing from the off.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870375#msg870375 date=1242728092]
Tevez would win over every Liverpool fan out there within his first four games.
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and no-one said that about Keane?
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Uh, well I never thought that. I knew Keane was a disaster signing from the off.
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[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870626#msg870626 date=1242750885]
[quote author=Gareth link=topic=33378.msg870612#msg870612 date=1242750238]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870375#msg870375 date=1242728092]
Tevez would win over every Liverpool fan out there within his first four games.
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and no-one said that about Keane?
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Uh, well I never thought that. I knew Keane was a disaster signing from the off.
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Casting aside the United connections, what's the difference between the players, Anita?
I know they're not exactly the same but I don't understand your polar opposite views on these players.
[quote author=Gareth link=topic=33378.msg870612#msg870612 date=1242750238]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870375#msg870375 date=1242728092]
Tevez would win over every Liverpool fan out there within his first four games.
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and no-one said that about Keane?
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Uh, well I never thought that. I knew Keane was a disaster signing from the off.
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Casting aside the United connections, what's the difference between the players, Anita?
I know they're not exactly the same but I don't understand your polar opposite views on these players.
I think Tevez is a better footballer than Keane, his speed and movement off the ball means he is more versatile along the front line, I understand people's concerns about him bot having played on the left much for Utd, but he has for Argentina, and I'm therefore confident that he can for us too. Tevez can also lead the line when necessary; Keane couldn't. Tevez is also younger, so better value for a £20mill ish piece tag. Plus he has much more fight and heart than Robbie Keane, who would rather bitch and moan at others if he messes up.
Bottom line, Tevez could and would fit into our existing set up, it was clear that Keane never would, and it blew my mind at the time as to why people couldn't see that.
Bottom line, Tevez could and would fit into our existing set up, it was clear that Keane never would, and it blew my mind at the time as to why people couldn't see that.
Disagree the last bit. At that stage Stevie wasn't a regular in the role just behind Torres, and Keane would have been an excellent choice for that role had things worked out for him at LFC. I didn't particularly want us to sign him, but that was more because I felt we were being grotesquely overcharged for a player of his age.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg870645#msg870645 date=1242752024]
Disagree the last bit. At that stage Stevie wasn't a regular in the role just behind Torres, and Keane would have been an excellent choice for that role had things worked out for him at LFC. I didn't particularly want us to sign him, but that was more because I felt we were being grotesquely overcharged for a player of his age.
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That's not true.
The tail end of last season was when we first started playing Stevie in that role, and as a result it was the best football we'd played under Rafa. It was clear that the team needed to be built around the strength of that Torres/Gerrard partnership going into the summer.
Disagree the last bit. At that stage Stevie wasn't a regular in the role just behind Torres, and Keane would have been an excellent choice for that role had things worked out for him at LFC. I didn't particularly want us to sign him, but that was more because I felt we were being grotesquely overcharged for a player of his age.
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That's not true.
The tail end of last season was when we first started playing Stevie in that role, and as a result it was the best football we'd played under Rafa. It was clear that the team needed to be built around the strength of that Torres/Gerrard partnership going into the summer.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870640#msg870640 date=1242751791]
I think Tevez is a better footballer than Keane, his speed and movement off the ball means he is more versatile along the front line, I understand people's concerns about him bot having played on the left much for Utd, but he has for Argentina, and I'm therefore confident that he can for us too. Tevez can also lead the line when necessary; Keane couldn't. Tevez is also younger, so better value for a £20mill ish piece tag. Plus he has much more fight and heart than Robbie Keane, who would rather bitch and moan at others if he messes up.
Bottom line, Tevez could and would fit into our existing set up, it was clear that Keane never would, and it blew my mind at the time as to why people couldn't see that.
[/quote]Didnt Keane score more goals for us in the league in 5 months than Tevez has all season for the enemy?
I think Tevez is a better footballer than Keane, his speed and movement off the ball means he is more versatile along the front line, I understand people's concerns about him bot having played on the left much for Utd, but he has for Argentina, and I'm therefore confident that he can for us too. Tevez can also lead the line when necessary; Keane couldn't. Tevez is also younger, so better value for a £20mill ish piece tag. Plus he has much more fight and heart than Robbie Keane, who would rather bitch and moan at others if he messes up.
Bottom line, Tevez could and would fit into our existing set up, it was clear that Keane never would, and it blew my mind at the time as to why people couldn't see that.
[/quote]Didnt Keane score more goals for us in the league in 5 months than Tevez has all season for the enemy?
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg870645#msg870645 date=1242752024]
Disagree the last bit. At that stage Stevie wasn't a regular in the role just behind Torres, and Keane would have been an excellent choice for that role had things worked out for him at LFC. I didn't particularly want us to sign him, but that was more because I felt we were being grotesquely overcharged for a player of his age.
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That's not true.
The tail end of last season was when we first started playing Stevie in that role, and as a result it was the best football we'd played under Rafa. It was clear that the team needed to be built around the strength of that Torres/Gerrard partnership going into the summer.
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I don't agree, and the key to why not is in your own post - "tail end", "first started". In other words, Stevie wasn't yet - as I said - a regular in that role. There was still a case then for looking for someone else to play there, as opposed to now, when the partnership is so well established that I wouldn't contemplate breaking it up except in case of emergency.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg870645#msg870645 date=1242752024]
Disagree the last bit. At that stage Stevie wasn't a regular in the role just behind Torres, and Keane would have been an excellent choice for that role had things worked out for him at LFC. I didn't particularly want us to sign him, but that was more because I felt we were being grotesquely overcharged for a player of his age.
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That's not true.
The tail end of last season was when we first started playing Stevie in that role, and as a result it was the best football we'd played under Rafa. It was clear that the team needed to be built around the strength of that Torres/Gerrard partnership going into the summer.
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I don't agree, and the key to why not is in your own post - "tail end", "first started". In other words, Stevie wasn't yet - as I said - a regular in that role. There was still a case then for looking for someone else to play there, as opposed to now, when the partnership is so well established that I wouldn't contemplate breaking it up except in case of emergency.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg870678#msg870678 date=1242754859]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870646#msg870646 date=1242752127]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg870645#msg870645 date=1242752024]
Disagree the last bit. At that stage Stevie wasn't a regular in the role just behind Torres, and Keane would have been an excellent choice for that role had things worked out for him at LFC. I didn't particularly want us to sign him, but that was more because I felt we were being grotesquely overcharged for a player of his age.
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That's not true.
The tail end of last season was when we first started playing Stevie in that role, and as a result it was the best football we'd played under Rafa. It was clear that the team needed to be built around the strength of that Torres/Gerrard partnership going into the summer.
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I don't agree, and the key to why not is in your own post - "tail end", "first started". In other words, Stevie wasn't yet - as I said - a regular in that role. There was still a case then for looking for someone else to play there, as opposed to now, when the partnership is so well established that I wouldn't contemplate breaking it up except in case of emergency.
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Hmm. Me neither. Given certain comments in interviews, though, I'm not sure Rafa feels the same.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870646#msg870646 date=1242752127]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg870645#msg870645 date=1242752024]
Disagree the last bit. At that stage Stevie wasn't a regular in the role just behind Torres, and Keane would have been an excellent choice for that role had things worked out for him at LFC. I didn't particularly want us to sign him, but that was more because I felt we were being grotesquely overcharged for a player of his age.
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That's not true.
The tail end of last season was when we first started playing Stevie in that role, and as a result it was the best football we'd played under Rafa. It was clear that the team needed to be built around the strength of that Torres/Gerrard partnership going into the summer.
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I don't agree, and the key to why not is in your own post - "tail end", "first started". In other words, Stevie wasn't yet - as I said - a regular in that role. There was still a case then for looking for someone else to play there, as opposed to now, when the partnership is so well established that I wouldn't contemplate breaking it up except in case of emergency.
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Hmm. Me neither. Given certain comments in interviews, though, I'm not sure Rafa feels the same.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33378.msg870662#msg870662 date=1242753907]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870640#msg870640 date=1242751791]
I think Tevez is a better footballer than Keane, his speed and movement off the ball means he is more versatile along the front line, I understand people's concerns about him bot having played on the left much for Utd, but he has for Argentina, and I'm therefore confident that he can for us too. Tevez can also lead the line when necessary; Keane couldn't. Tevez is also younger, so better value for a £20mill ish piece tag. Plus he has much more fight and heart than Robbie Keane, who would rather bitch and moan at others if he messes up.
Bottom line, Tevez could and would fit into our existing set up, it was clear that Keane never would, and it blew my mind at the time as to why people couldn't see that.
[/quote]Didnt Keane score more goals for us in the league in 5 months than Tevez has all season for the enemy?
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Maybe he did Oncy, but I know who's all round play is better.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33378.msg870640#msg870640 date=1242751791]
I think Tevez is a better footballer than Keane, his speed and movement off the ball means he is more versatile along the front line, I understand people's concerns about him bot having played on the left much for Utd, but he has for Argentina, and I'm therefore confident that he can for us too. Tevez can also lead the line when necessary; Keane couldn't. Tevez is also younger, so better value for a £20mill ish piece tag. Plus he has much more fight and heart than Robbie Keane, who would rather bitch and moan at others if he messes up.
Bottom line, Tevez could and would fit into our existing set up, it was clear that Keane never would, and it blew my mind at the time as to why people couldn't see that.
[/quote]Didnt Keane score more goals for us in the league in 5 months than Tevez has all season for the enemy?
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Maybe he did Oncy, but I know who's all round play is better.
reports from other papers say our not-so-favourite paper is saying that Spurs have lodged an £18m bid for Tevez, but been "blown out of the water" by a meet the asking price bid by Liverpool of £25m and £160k a week over three years a £50m deal.
Hahaha, if true Rafa really does want to hump Slur Alex.
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Hahaha, if true Rafa really does want to hump Slur Alex.
regards
Is Rafa quoted anywhere as saying he would like Tevez?
Or is all this speculation?
Or is all this speculation?
Benitez not being quoted as wanting Tevez is not an indication that he doesn't.
Perhaps he's learned from last year's Keane/ Barry debacles that sometimes public declarations of interest in other clubs' players is not always wise
Perhaps he's learned from last year's Keane/ Barry debacles that sometimes public declarations of interest in other clubs' players is not always wise
[quote author=Glock link=topic=33378.msg870971#msg870971 date=1242805441]
Stop wasting the fucking time signing Tevez for 28mil. We can get Eto'o for less than that amount.
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So you want to change our formation to a 4-4-2 and lessen Gerrard's influence as he's even more dangerous in the 4-2-3-1?
Stop wasting the fucking time signing Tevez for 28mil. We can get Eto'o for less than that amount.
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So you want to change our formation to a 4-4-2 and lessen Gerrard's influence as he's even more dangerous in the 4-2-3-1?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33378.msg870967#msg870967 date=1242804965]
Benitez not being quoted as wanting Tevez is not an indication that he doesn't.
Perhaps he's learned from last year's Keane/ Barry debacles that sometimes public declarations of interest in other clubs' players is not always wise
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I agree, but I'm just wondering if he has said anything. Not like Rafa to fail to drop a few crumbs.
Benitez not being quoted as wanting Tevez is not an indication that he doesn't.
Perhaps he's learned from last year's Keane/ Barry debacles that sometimes public declarations of interest in other clubs' players is not always wise
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I agree, but I'm just wondering if he has said anything. Not like Rafa to fail to drop a few crumbs.
[quote author=Glock link=topic=33378.msg870971#msg870971 date=1242805441]
Stop wasting the fucking time signing Tevez for 28mil. We can get Eto'o for less than that amount.
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I think Eto'o is a great player, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
We are best concentrating on a realistic, attainable option rather than a maybe, that every other top European club will get involved in a bidding war for. Is there firm evidence that Eto'o will leave Barca?
Tevez it would seem is narrowed down to two or three options, with us being in the pound seats.
Let's get in, get it done, rather than yet another protracted transfer.
Tevez is three years younger than Eto'o and that three years is very significant in terms of value, and longevity.
regards
Stop wasting the fucking time signing Tevez for 28mil. We can get Eto'o for less than that amount.
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I think Eto'o is a great player, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
We are best concentrating on a realistic, attainable option rather than a maybe, that every other top European club will get involved in a bidding war for. Is there firm evidence that Eto'o will leave Barca?
Tevez it would seem is narrowed down to two or three options, with us being in the pound seats.
Let's get in, get it done, rather than yet another protracted transfer.
Tevez is three years younger than Eto'o and that three years is very significant in terms of value, and longevity.
regards
btw vlad, those contract details can't be true at all - he's not going to get a contract that will see him earning more than stevie g or torres.
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