Tevez (this years Barry thread?)

[TheBunnyman]

In fact, here's a general question to all the Tevez-lovers: what would he give us that Robbie Keane didn't? Is he a better finisher? Is he more creative? Does he work harder?

Because, of those three categories, the only one in which Tevez looks superior to me is the last one.

 

[spider-Neil]

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In fact, here's a general question to all the Tevez-lovers: what would he give us that Robbie Keane didn't? Is he a better finisher? Is he more creative? Does he work harder?

Because, of those three categories, the only one in which Tevez looks superior to me is the last one.
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I think tevez is better at 'floating'

 

[doctor_mac]

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I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.

Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?

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He's fantastic at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, and quick enough to play off the shoulder of the last defender. Didn't he lead the line with West Ham to great effect? Of course we would miss Torres, he doesn't do what Torres does, but he has the qualities to do a competent job.

 

[gkmacca]

Great, Bascombe back in with his increasingly mysterious sources. He even knows the shirt number! Hardly anyone at the club now talks to him, but he still keeps getting these gems. He doesn't even bother these days with 'sources close to...' or 'friends of...'; he just shouts these insights down from Mount Olympus.

 

[cochyn]

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I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]

From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
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aguero is definately better equiped to break down stubborn defenses
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what like the stubborn defences that tevez woked on for two years successfully
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I didn't say tevez can't I said aguero would be better at it.
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aguero may be better at it?
but tevez is proven at it!

 

[TheBunnyman]

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I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.

Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?

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He's fantastic at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, and quick enough to play off the shoulder of the last defender. Didn't he lead the line with West Ham to great effect? Of course we would miss Torres, he doesn't do what Torres does, but he has the qualities to do a competent job.


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I don't think we could play 4231 with Tevez up front. He's struggle there in the same way Keane struggled. We'd have to use Tevez and Kuyt as a forward pairing, the same way United used Tevez and Rooney last season. Unfortunately Kuyt's not as good as Rooney, and neither of those players are clinical finishers.

 

[St.Benitez]

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Great, Bascombe back in with his increasingly mysterious sources. He even knows the shirt number! Hardly anyone at the club now talks to him, but he still keeps getting these gems. He doesn't even bother these days with 'sources close to...' or 'friends of...'; he just shouts these insights down from Mount Olympus.
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I hope you dont mind me asking Macca (feel free not to answer), but what do you do?

 

[keniget]

The main reason I don't want Tevez is because he's coming from Utd and worse still, a championship winning Utd side. Whenever the commentators bring up our title aspirations, we'll have to endure the "well, they have one player with a league medal...". Ugh.

I'd have gladly taken him beforehand and although I'd still take him now, it'd be rather begrudgingly. The concerns over where he'd fit in and his questionable finishing skills are still there, however given some of the other dross we've had to put up with in recent years, I'm going to try not to turn my nose up.

I'd still prefer other players though.

 

[Vlads Quiff]

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fuck it. do it rafa bring him in ;D
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It's worth it just to upset the Mancs.
I still don't think we have to sell Alonso as some reports are suggesting. Barry will be a fraction of the cost he was last year, and Rafa still has the remnants of the Keane money in his kitty.
No one can tell me that Rafa did not include demands for a transfer pot in his contract negotiations for this year.
Keane left over around £15m
New funds £25
Sale of deadwood £15
I would suggest that Rafa could get Tevez and Barry and still have £20m to play around with

regards

 

[doctor_mac]

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I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.

Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?

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He's fantastic at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, and quick enough to play off the shoulder of the last defender. Didn't he lead the line with West Ham to great effect? Of course we would miss Torres, he doesn't do what Torres does, but he has the qualities to do a competent job.


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I don't think we could play 4231 with Tevez up front. He's struggle there in the same way Keane struggled. We'd have to use Tevez and Kuyt as a forward pairing, the same way United used Tevez and Rooney last season. Unfortunately Kuyt's not as good as Rooney, and neither of those players are clinical finishers.

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Maybe, maybe not. He'd be much better than Keane in a 4-2-3-1. He's much stronger. Even if we did have to mix up the formation without Torres, at least he would provide an effective threat up front.

 

[Skullflower]

the prick was crying 'cos he loves the mancs and is gutted he has to leave.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

Torres

Tevez Gerrard Kuyt

Xabi Masch




Now that's genuine attacking threat with 4 players with excellent finishing ability, and 4 with great creativity, 5 who can tackle and 5 who are excellent at tracking back. It's the ultimate unit for attack as one defend as one...

Distinct lack of natural wingers though..

 

[spider-Neil]

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Torres

Tevez Gerrard Kuyt

Xabi Masch




Now that's genuine attacking threat with 4 players with excellent finishing ability, and 4 with great creativity, 5 who can tackle and 5 who are excellent at tracking back. It's the ultimate unit for attack as one defend as one...

Distinct lack of natural wingers though..
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not that bothered about wingers my corcern is the players natural instincts will be to come inside, it would be nice to purchase someone who is a goal threat and is comfortable in a wide position but has the ability to come inside when required.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

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Torres

Tevez Gerrard Kuyt

Xabi Masch




Now that's genuine attacking threat with 4 players with excellent finishing ability, and 4 with great creativity, 5 who can tackle and 5 who are excellent at tracking back. It's the ultimate unit for attack as one defend as one...

Distinct lack of natural wingers though..
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not that bothered about wingers my corcern is the players natural instincts will be to come inside, it would be nice to purchase someone who is a goal threat and is comfortable in a wide position but has the ability to come inside when required.
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Like Tevez..

 

[SummerOnions]

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Great, Bascombe back in with his increasingly mysterious sources. He even knows the shirt number! Hardly anyone at the club now talks to him, but he still keeps getting these gems. He doesn't even bother these days with 'sources close to...' or 'friends of...'; he just shouts these insights down from Mount Olympus.
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When was the last time anything he said came true?

 

[doctor_mac]

Keane to return to Spurs?

 

[TheBunnyman]

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I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.

Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?

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He's fantastic at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, and quick enough to play off the shoulder of the last defender. Didn't he lead the line with West Ham to great effect? Of course we would miss Torres, he doesn't do what Torres does, but he has the qualities to do a competent job.


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I don't think we could play 4231 with Tevez up front. He's struggle there in the same way Keane struggled. We'd have to use Tevez and Kuyt as a forward pairing, the same way United used Tevez and Rooney last season. Unfortunately Kuyt's not as good as Rooney, and neither of those players are clinical finishers.

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Maybe, maybe not. He'd be much better than Keane in a 4-2-3-1. He's much stronger. Even if we did have to mix up the formation without Torres, at least he would provide an effective threat up front.


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Keane is a better finisher than Tevez, and IMO is a more creative second striker. I see no reason why Tevez would be a success here when Keane wasn't - unless he's prepared to play LW. But there are other LWs I'd rather have for £25m.

 

[rage]

any transfer plans that involve the selling of alonso this summer are seriously flawed.

 

[Rafiagra]

It wouldnt surprise me if Rafa considered Tevez as a 'Kuyt' for the left winger. Full of running / willing to track back / but attack minded. He has more skill than Kuyt though.

 

[manwithnoname]

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It wouldnt surprise me if Rafa considered Tevez as a 'Kuyt' for the left winger. Full of running / willing to track back / but attack minded. He has more skill than Kuyt though.
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But not as many goals over the last two seasons

 

[doctor_mac]

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I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.

Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?

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He's fantastic at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, and quick enough to play off the shoulder of the last defender. Didn't he lead the line with West Ham to great effect? Of course we would miss Torres, he doesn't do what Torres does, but he has the qualities to do a competent job.


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I don't think we could play 4231 with Tevez up front. He's struggle there in the same way Keane struggled. We'd have to use Tevez and Kuyt as a forward pairing, the same way United used Tevez and Rooney last season. Unfortunately Kuyt's not as good as Rooney, and neither of those players are clinical finishers.

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Maybe, maybe not. He'd be much better than Keane in a 4-2-3-1. He's much stronger. Even if we did have to mix up the formation without Torres, at least he would provide an effective threat up front.


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Keane is a better finisher than Tevez, and IMO is a more creative second striker. I see no reason why Tevez would be a success here when Keane wasn't - unless he's prepared to play LW. But there are other LWs I'd rather have for £25m.


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Keane wasn't a better finisher than Carra when he played for us- and wasn't too creative either. I disagree- and as I say, I think he could lead the line when Torres is missing- something Keane couldn't manage.

 

[Judge Jules]

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any transfer plans that involve the selling of alonso this summer are seriously flawed.
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...unless Xabi is the one who wants away.

 

[TheBunnyman]

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I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.

Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?

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He's fantastic at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, and quick enough to play off the shoulder of the last defender. Didn't he lead the line with West Ham to great effect? Of course we would miss Torres, he doesn't do what Torres does, but he has the qualities to do a competent job.


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I don't think we could play 4231 with Tevez up front. He's struggle there in the same way Keane struggled. We'd have to use Tevez and Kuyt as a forward pairing, the same way United used Tevez and Rooney last season. Unfortunately Kuyt's not as good as Rooney, and neither of those players are clinical finishers.

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Maybe, maybe not. He'd be much better than Keane in a 4-2-3-1. He's much stronger. Even if we did have to mix up the formation without Torres, at least he would provide an effective threat up front.


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Keane is a better finisher than Tevez, and IMO is a more creative second striker. I see no reason why Tevez would be a success here when Keane wasn't - unless he's prepared to play LW. But there are other LWs I'd rather have for £25m.


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Keane wasn't a better finisher than Carra when he played for us- and wasn't too creative either. I disagree- and as I say, I think he could lead the line when Torres is missing- something Keane couldn't manage.
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Keane's goals-to-games record is better than Tevez's, despite generally playing in lesser teams. I think he struggled because he effectively got in the way of the Gerrard-Torres partnership. But so would Tevez if he played anywhere other than LW.

For £25m we could probably bid for Benzema, who would be a better fit for that line-leading role, and who is also a clinical finisher and a hugely creative passer.

 

[keniget]

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any transfer plans that involve the selling of alonso this summer are seriously flawed.
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...unless Xabi is the one who wants away.
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you keep saying this but there is nothing to suggest that this is the case as yet. He has only ever spoken of his desire to stay.

 

[Judge Jules]

I keep saying it when others suggest Rafa wants to sell the guy, (a) because there have been ongoing references to it in the media all season long and (b) because, pig-headed though Rafa can be, I don't believe even he would be in a hurry to sell someone who's played so well this season.  I'm not saying it's definitely the case that Xabi wants to go, but it's at least as likely as Rafa wanting him gone.

 

[doctor_mac]

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I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.

Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?

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He's fantastic at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, and quick enough to play off the shoulder of the last defender. Didn't he lead the line with West Ham to great effect? Of course we would miss Torres, he doesn't do what Torres does, but he has the qualities to do a competent job.


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I don't think we could play 4231 with Tevez up front. He's struggle there in the same way Keane struggled. We'd have to use Tevez and Kuyt as a forward pairing, the same way United used Tevez and Rooney last season. Unfortunately Kuyt's not as good as Rooney, and neither of those players are clinical finishers.

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Maybe, maybe not. He'd be much better than Keane in a 4-2-3-1. He's much stronger. Even if we did have to mix up the formation without Torres, at least he would provide an effective threat up front.


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Keane is a better finisher than Tevez, and IMO is a more creative second striker. I see no reason why Tevez would be a success here when Keane wasn't - unless he's prepared to play LW. But there are other LWs I'd rather have for £25m.


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Keane wasn't a better finisher than Carra when he played for us- and wasn't too creative either. I disagree- and as I say, I think he could lead the line when Torres is missing- something Keane couldn't manage.
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Keane's goals-to-games record is better than Tevez's, despite generally playing in lesser teams. I think he struggled because he effectively got in the way of the Gerrard-Torres partnership. But so would Tevez if he played anywhere other than LW.

For £25m we could probably bid for Benzema, who would be a better fit for that line-leading role, and who is also a clinical finisher and a hugely creative passer.
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Now if we could get Benzema, Tevez can fuck off.

 

[Buddha]

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I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.

Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?

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He's fantastic at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, and quick enough to play off the shoulder of the last defender. Didn't he lead the line with West Ham to great effect? Of course we would miss Torres, he doesn't do what Torres does, but he has the qualities to do a competent job.


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I don't think we could play 4231 with Tevez up front. He's struggle there in the same way Keane struggled. We'd have to use Tevez and Kuyt as a forward pairing, the same way United used Tevez and Rooney last season. Unfortunately Kuyt's not as good as Rooney, and neither of those players are clinical finishers.

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Maybe, maybe not. He'd be much better than Keane in a 4-2-3-1. He's much stronger. Even if we did have to mix up the formation without Torres, at least he would provide an effective threat up front.


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Keane is a better finisher than Tevez, and IMO is a more creative second striker. I see no reason why Tevez would be a success here when Keane wasn't - unless he's prepared to play LW. But there are other LWs I'd rather have for £25m.


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Keane wasn't a better finisher than Carra when he played for us- and wasn't too creative either. I disagree- and as I say, I think he could lead the line when Torres is missing- something Keane couldn't manage.
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Keane's goals-to-games record is better than Tevez's, despite generally playing in lesser teams. I think he struggled because he effectively got in the way of the Gerrard-Torres partnership. But so would Tevez if he played anywhere other than LW.

For £25m we could probably bid for Benzema, who would be a better fit for that line-leading role, and who is also a clinical finisher and a hugely creative passer.
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Now if we could get Benzema, Tevez can fuck off.
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To play where Doc? Please don't suggest LW - what a waste of Benzema's talent that would be.

Any other plans to link Benzema with Torres up front would mean moving Gerrard from the position that apparently suits him (and Torres best), evidenced by his improvement under Rafa of late.

 

[MaBigTip]

I like Carlito he is a very good player with good experience on a title winning team but his best attribute is that he pops up with vital goals when his team is having an off day. it seems like the majority of his goals come at a 0-0 or 1-1 scoreline near the end of games. He pops up dribbles about 5 yards unleashes his trademark 25 yard finish. But his best position would be the one currently occupied by SG, the best in the world at that position. And even though I know Tevez would do a job on the LWF position it would by no means be ideal. And far from give that balance that having Riera there this year did. It changed our team in the beginning of the year. Spread out the defense.

My ideal signing for this summer is Ashley Young he is everything we need. A very pacey attacking wide player with creativity and end product (and English). He blows past defenders and delivers a sublime cross the majority of the time. Not only that but he has been playing the LWF in a 4-3-3 for 2 years already. Not only that he gets multiple assists crossing to Agbonlahor, Milner and Barry imagine if he was crossing to Torres, Kuyt and Gerrard. I think he could get an astonishing 20 assists. He takes a superb free kick. And finally having him on the opposite wing as Kuyt makes sense as opposed to having someone as similar to Kuyt as Tevez is. You guys all want it genuine wide player with pace and trickery who can help our play get to the next level. Tevez is great at linking up play but Ashley would transform our front 4. I'd blow our whole budget to secure him.

Masch Alonso

Kuyt Gerrard Young

Torres


One of the major reasons Aston Villa lost their form (besides Laursen getting crocked) is because teams started focusing the majority of there defensive efforts on Young, in our team they wouldn't be able to do that. I think he is the perfect addition to try and guarantee no. 19.

 

[Buddha]

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I like Carlito he is a very good player with good experience on a title winning team but his best attribute is that he pops up with vital goals when his team is having an off day. it seems like the majority of his goals come at a 0-0 or 1-1 scoreline near the end of games. He pops up dribbles about 5 yards unleashes his trademark 25 yard finish. But his best position would be the one currently occupied by SG, the best in the world at that position. And even though I know Tevez would do a job on the LWF position it would by no means be ideal. And far from give that balance that having Riera there this year did. It changed our team in the beginning of the year. Spread out the defense.

My ideal signing for this summer is Ashley Young he is everything we need. A very pacey attacking wide player with creativity and end product (and English). He blows past defenders and delivers a sublime cross the majority of the time. Not only that but he has been playing the LWF in a 4-3-3 for 2 years already. Not only that he gets multiple assists crossing to Agbonlahor, Milner and Barry imagine if he was crossing to Torres, Kuyt and Gerrard. I think he could get an astonishing 20 assists. He takes a superb free kick. And finally having him on the opposite wing as Kuyt makes sense as opposed to having someone as similar to Kuyt as Tevez is. You guys all want it genuine wide player with pace and trickery who can help our play get to the next level. Tevez is great at linking up play but Ashley would transform our front 4. I'd blow our whole budget to secure him.

Masch Alonso

Kuyt Gerrard Young

Torres


One of the major reasons Aston Villa lost their form (besides Laursen getting crocked) is because teams started focusing the majority of there defensive efforts on Young, in our team they wouldn't be able to do that. I think he is the perfect addition to try and guarantee no. 19.
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That's not a bad shout. MON would want at least 25m for him though and we'd no doubt face wealthier rivals for his signature.

 

[MaBigTip]

I'd be willing to give more than 25 toward him, he is what we need, and there really isn't a left sided player out there like him; prem proven and bags of pace with a dynamic cross.