Tevez (this years Barry thread?)
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[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=33378.msg867830#msg867830 date=1242460678]
There's an article going around that the Mancs are aware that they operate outside and above all rules of accepted practice; they can therefore keep Tevez for free.
The EU seems to be supporting this.
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Natch. There's no honour among thieves.
There's an article going around that the Mancs are aware that they operate outside and above all rules of accepted practice; they can therefore keep Tevez for free.
The EU seems to be supporting this.
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Natch. There's no honour among thieves.
I think today has shown that Tevez will not be at United next season.
He was waving to the crowd when he was taken off, he was crying on the bench.
And in his post match interview he was very telling too, asked a straight yes/no question about staying and he dodged it.
He was waving to the crowd when he was taken off, he was crying on the bench.
And in his post match interview he was very telling too, asked a straight yes/no question about staying and he dodged it.
As someone (Oncy possibly) said, the good news is that even if they do keep him it would you'd assume cost a sizeable amount, and they've nothing as such to show for it as the team is no different.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=33378.msg868252#msg868252 date=1242502566]
As someone (Oncy possibly) said, the good news is that even if they do keep him it would you'd assume cost a sizeable amount, and they've nothing as such to show for it as the team is no different.
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Only problem being that it could be a double-double winning team, and it doesn't need to get any better...
As someone (Oncy possibly) said, the good news is that even if they do keep him it would you'd assume cost a sizeable amount, and they've nothing as such to show for it as the team is no different.
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Only problem being that it could be a double-double winning team, and it doesn't need to get any better...
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=33378.msg868253#msg868253 date=1242502756]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=33378.msg868252#msg868252 date=1242502566]
As someone (Oncy possibly) said, the good news is that even if they do keep him it would you'd assume cost a sizeable amount, and they've nothing as such to show for it as the team is no different.
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Only problem being that it could be a double-double winning team, and it doesn't need to get any better...
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Correct.
and they'll probably go out and strengthen centre midfield too.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=33378.msg868252#msg868252 date=1242502566]
As someone (Oncy possibly) said, the good news is that even if they do keep him it would you'd assume cost a sizeable amount, and they've nothing as such to show for it as the team is no different.
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Only problem being that it could be a double-double winning team, and it doesn't need to get any better...
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Correct.
and they'll probably go out and strengthen centre midfield too.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=33378.msg868258#msg868258 date=1242503260]
I'd be happier to see Utd spend their money on Tevez than someone like Aguero or Villa.
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I can see a flip side to that though Ken, we'd be getting a premiership proven player, who (as far as anyone can tell) will fit into the system that Rafa is developing here.
There isn't a guarantee that someone else could come in, regardless of quality, and click.
I's likely, granted, but not definite.
I'd be happier to see Utd spend their money on Tevez than someone like Aguero or Villa.
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I can see a flip side to that though Ken, we'd be getting a premiership proven player, who (as far as anyone can tell) will fit into the system that Rafa is developing here.
There isn't a guarantee that someone else could come in, regardless of quality, and click.
I's likely, granted, but not definite.
[quote author=Stu link=topic=33378.msg868257#msg868257 date=1242503123]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=33378.msg868253#msg868253 date=1242502756]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=33378.msg868252#msg868252 date=1242502566]
As someone (Oncy possibly) said, the good news is that even if they do keep him it would you'd assume cost a sizeable amount, and they've nothing as such to show for it as the team is no different.
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Only problem being that it could be a double-double winning team, and it doesn't need to get any better...
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Correct.
and they'll probably go out and strengthen centre midfield too.
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With Hargreaves returning next season I can't see them signing another CM
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=33378.msg868253#msg868253 date=1242502756]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=33378.msg868252#msg868252 date=1242502566]
As someone (Oncy possibly) said, the good news is that even if they do keep him it would you'd assume cost a sizeable amount, and they've nothing as such to show for it as the team is no different.
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Only problem being that it could be a double-double winning team, and it doesn't need to get any better...
[/quote]
Correct.
and they'll probably go out and strengthen centre midfield too.
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With Hargreaves returning next season I can't see them signing another CM
[quote author=Stu link=topic=33378.msg868291#msg868291 date=1242506559]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=33378.msg868258#msg868258 date=1242503260]
I'd be happier to see Utd spend their money on Tevez than someone like Aguero or Villa.
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I can see a flip side to that though Ken, we'd be getting a premiership proven player, who (as far as anyone can tell) will fit into the system that Rafa is developing here.
There isn't a guarantee that someone else could come in, regardless of quality, and click.
I's likely, granted, but not definite.
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I'd be quite happy to accept the risk on Aguero and let them keep the sure thing in Tevez.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=33378.msg868258#msg868258 date=1242503260]
I'd be happier to see Utd spend their money on Tevez than someone like Aguero or Villa.
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I can see a flip side to that though Ken, we'd be getting a premiership proven player, who (as far as anyone can tell) will fit into the system that Rafa is developing here.
There isn't a guarantee that someone else could come in, regardless of quality, and click.
I's likely, granted, but not definite.
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I'd be quite happy to accept the risk on Aguero and let them keep the sure thing in Tevez.
I don't want us to sign Tevez, but this (from the Observer) makes it seem more likely...
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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I think the reason is people to see a dedicated class wide player than a forward, especially a forward who plays in a 'similar' style to kuyt.
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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I think the reason is people to see a dedicated class wide player than a forward, especially a forward who plays in a 'similar' style to kuyt.
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=33378.msg868372#msg868372 date=1242548277]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
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aguero is definately better equiped to break down stubborn defenses
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
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aguero is definately better equiped to break down stubborn defenses
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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You're right about Tevez' quality, but those of us who have doubts about signing him have made it perfectly clear why. There are two main reasons: one - it's hard to see where he'd fit into the team with Gerrard and Torres in possession of both the positions Tevez would be looking to play, and two - the money's badly needed for other positions.
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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You're right about Tevez' quality, but those of us who have doubts about signing him have made it perfectly clear why. There are two main reasons: one - it's hard to see where he'd fit into the team with Gerrard and Torres in possession of both the positions Tevez would be looking to play, and two - the money's badly needed for other positions.
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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and proved himself to be up to the premiership.....and is a Rafa type player
regards
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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and proved himself to be up to the premiership.....and is a Rafa type player
regards
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=33378.msg868372#msg868372 date=1242548277]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
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There's no way Aguero is faster then Tevez (who's certainly not "lightning fast" himself). Lack of pace is the one thing that puts me off signing Aguero in our 4-2-3-1 system.
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
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There's no way Aguero is faster then Tevez (who's certainly not "lightning fast" himself). Lack of pace is the one thing that puts me off signing Aguero in our 4-2-3-1 system.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg868377#msg868377 date=1242549792]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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You're right about Tevez' quality, but those of us who have doubts about signing him have made it perfectly clear why. There are two main reasons: one - it's hard to see where he'd fit into the team with Gerrard and Torres in possession of both the positions Tevez would be looking to play, and two - the money's badly needed for other positions.
[/quote]Knowing rafa he'd bang him on the right wing..
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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You're right about Tevez' quality, but those of us who have doubts about signing him have made it perfectly clear why. There are two main reasons: one - it's hard to see where he'd fit into the team with Gerrard and Torres in possession of both the positions Tevez would be looking to play, and two - the money's badly needed for other positions.
[/quote]Knowing rafa he'd bang him on the right wing..
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=33378.msg868385#msg868385 date=1242551057]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg868377#msg868377 date=1242549792]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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You're right about Tevez' quality, but those of us who have doubts about signing him have made it perfectly clear why. There are two main reasons: one - it's hard to see where he'd fit into the team with Gerrard and Torres in possession of both the positions Tevez would be looking to play, and two - the money's badly needed for other positions.
[/quote]Knowing rafa he'd bang him on the right wing..
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I think he'd sign him to play anywhere across the 3 (and of course as back-up for Torres as the "1"😉.
He'd end up playing most games somewhere across the 3/as the 1, given he'd be likely rotated with Kuyt/Riera and will be likely needed a fair amount of the time to cover for injuries/rest for Gerrard/Torres.
He'd be an excellent signing and would add much needed quality depth to our first 11 and squad as a whole.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg868377#msg868377 date=1242549792]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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You're right about Tevez' quality, but those of us who have doubts about signing him have made it perfectly clear why. There are two main reasons: one - it's hard to see where he'd fit into the team with Gerrard and Torres in possession of both the positions Tevez would be looking to play, and two - the money's badly needed for other positions.
[/quote]Knowing rafa he'd bang him on the right wing..
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I think he'd sign him to play anywhere across the 3 (and of course as back-up for Torres as the "1"😉.
He'd end up playing most games somewhere across the 3/as the 1, given he'd be likely rotated with Kuyt/Riera and will be likely needed a fair amount of the time to cover for injuries/rest for Gerrard/Torres.
He'd be an excellent signing and would add much needed quality depth to our first 11 and squad as a whole.
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=33378.msg868372#msg868372 date=1242548277]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
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aguero is definately better equiped to break down stubborn defenses
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what like the stubborn defences that tevez woked on for two years successfully
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=33378.msg868372#msg868372 date=1242548277]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
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aguero is definately better equiped to break down stubborn defenses
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what like the stubborn defences that tevez woked on for two years successfully
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=33378.msg868394#msg868394 date=1242551543]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33378.msg868373#msg868373 date=1242549053]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=33378.msg868372#msg868372 date=1242548277]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
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aguero is definately better equiped to break down stubborn defenses
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what like the stubborn defences that tevez woked on for two years successfully
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I didn't say tevez can't I said aguero would be better at it.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33378.msg868373#msg868373 date=1242549053]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=33378.msg868372#msg868372 date=1242548277]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.[/quote]
From what I've seen of both ... Aguero is a better finisher, faster and more skillful on the ball.
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aguero is definately better equiped to break down stubborn defenses
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what like the stubborn defences that tevez woked on for two years successfully
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I didn't say tevez can't I said aguero would be better at it.
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg868377#msg868377 date=1242549792]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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You're right about Tevez' quality, but those of us who have doubts about signing him have made it perfectly clear why. There are two main reasons: one - it's hard to see where he'd fit into the team with Gerrard and Torres in possession of both the positions Tevez would be looking to play, and two - the money's badly needed for other positions.
[/quote]Knowing rafa he'd bang him on the right wing..
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I think he'd sign him to play anywhere across the 3 (and of course as back-up for Torres as the "1"😉.
He'd end up playing most games somewhere across the 3/as the 1, given he'd be likely rotated with Kuyt/Riera and will be likely needed a fair amount of the time to cover for injuries/rest for Gerrard/Torres.
He'd be an excellent signing and would add much needed quality depth to our first 11 and squad as a whole.
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Sorry, not convinced. That still leaves us without a top wide player and probably without the money to buy one. I really like Tevez as a player but I don't want him to become our Asprilla.
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=33378.msg868385#msg868385 date=1242551057]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=33378.msg868377#msg868377 date=1242549792]
[quote author=madmax link=topic=33378.msg868369#msg868369 date=1242548005]
I'm not sure what Aguero has that Tevez doesn't. He hasn't even played as well as Tevez for Argentina.
Tevez is a player that is in the class of Gerrard/Torres/Alonso/Agger.....so i can't quite fathom why many on this forum wouldn't want him. The only negative probably is that he has played for them fuckers...but that isn't enough for me to turn my nose up.
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You're right about Tevez' quality, but those of us who have doubts about signing him have made it perfectly clear why. There are two main reasons: one - it's hard to see where he'd fit into the team with Gerrard and Torres in possession of both the positions Tevez would be looking to play, and two - the money's badly needed for other positions.
[/quote]Knowing rafa he'd bang him on the right wing..
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I think he'd sign him to play anywhere across the 3 (and of course as back-up for Torres as the "1"😉.
He'd end up playing most games somewhere across the 3/as the 1, given he'd be likely rotated with Kuyt/Riera and will be likely needed a fair amount of the time to cover for injuries/rest for Gerrard/Torres.
He'd be an excellent signing and would add much needed quality depth to our first 11 and squad as a whole.
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Sorry, not convinced. That still leaves us without a top wide player and probably without the money to buy one. I really like Tevez as a player but I don't want him to become our Asprilla.
to be honest either of tevez or silva would be welcome because they would go straight into the first team and improve it and that's what we need.
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Benitez to make Carlos top target
Carlos Tevez lifts the Premier League trophy
CHAMPION - Carlos Tevez lifts the Premier League trophy
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By CHRIS BASCOMBE, 16/05/2009
LIVERPOOL are confident of gatecrashing Manchester United's title party by snatching Carlos Tevez in a stunning £22million raid.
In what promises to be the biggest transfer coup of the summer, Kop boss Rafa Benitez has decided to make signing the Old Trafford idol his top priority.
He will make the offer for the Argentine striker after this month's Champions League final.
Benitez has already earmarked Liverpool's No 10 shirt for the South American and alerted the player's representatives of his determination to make a deal happen.
Now Tevez is willing to snub overtures from across Europe - and a £135,000-a-week offer from Manchester City - to become the first player to make the sensational move direct from Old Trafford to Anfield in 45 years.
Benitez's confidence he will land the striker grew after Tevez's announced his intention to quit United in last week's Sport of the World exclusive.
Liverpool have put a transfer strategy in place which relies on the £18m sale of Xabi Alonso and the release of up to 10 other squad players, raising the necessary funds to pay for 25-year-old Tevez.
Benitez wasn't originally in the market for a striker this summer, but the opportunity to steal Tevez from under the nose of Sir Alex Ferguson has been too much to resist.
Rafa is still smarting from Fergie's refusal to allow Gabriel Heinze a Kop move two years and wants to ram the United boss's claim he'd never let a top player join Liverpool down his neck.
Most importantly, he sees Tevez as a world class addition to his emerging squad, with Gareth Barry also joining from Aston Villa to add a formidable array of talent at Anfield.
Concerns
Although the frontline partnership between Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres has been an electrifying success for the Merseysiders, Rafa doesn't want to pay the price for more injury woes to his hitmen next season.
He believes Torres' hamstring problems cost Liverpool the vital points which would have won the title. And there are concerns about the large amount of football the striker has missed recently.
Benitez is currently headhunting a replacement physio to join his backroom team next season, with particular focus on protecting his Spanish superstar from further muscle problems.
He sees an attacking trio of Tevez and Torres, with the versatile Gerrard rotating between forward and midfield roles, as the winning formula for a renewed title assault.
The capture of Tevez will also reassure Kop fans disturbed by the prospect of losing the popular Alonso.
Alonso has said he'd rather stay on Merseyside, but privately his relationship with manager has been strained since last summer. He's set to snub a mega-offer of his own from Manchester City in order to join Real Madrid.
It was thought Alonso was being forced out to make way for Aston Villa's Barry, but it's now clear Benitez wants Tevez and Barry as he reshapes his side.
Liverpool were hopeful of offloading former Real Sociedad star Alonso to Manchester City after learning that Mark Hughes was ready to pay £18m.
But the midfielder, 27, whose wife gave birth to their first son just over a year ago, would need to have been persuaded to make the move and sacrifice Champions League football.
A source close to Alonso said: "If he was given the choice he would join Real Madrid and they are definitely very interested in signing him."
He has three years left on the five-year deal he signed in the summer of 2007 and Real would be willing to pay Liverpool around £15m.
Benitez was willing to listen to offers for the player last summer but his failure to land Barry meant they had to turn down an enquiry from Arsenal. Alonso was also strongly linked with a move to Juventus.
Tevez's desire to move to Liverpool will stun Fergie and the Old Trafford faithful, but the lure of joining his friend Javier Mascherano in a side where he'll be first choice will be hard to resist.
Irony
Liverpool fit the bill for the striker because he won't have to move home and is also assured Champions League football and a title challenge next season.
The irony won't be lost on both United and Liverpool fans that it is Tevez's performances in the last month which have gone a long way to keeping the title at Old Trafford for another year. But that has not put off Benitez, who thinks Tevez has recently proved Fergie has made a mistake not securing the player on a permanent deal.
The north-west rivals have notoriously refused to do business with each other over five decades of power-shifting success.
Paul Ince played for both club's in the 1990s, but joined Liverpool after a stint at Inter Milan. The last player to move directly from United to Liverpool was Phil Chisnall, signed by Bill Shankly in 1964.
Liverpool's pursuit of Tevez will see the battle lines between Rafa and Fergie drawn earlier than ever over the summer.
On the day United equalled Liverpool's record of 18 titles, Benitez was preparing to fire the first bullets in next season's war of words between the managers.
Tevez exclusively revealed he plans to quit Old Trafford but stay in England in the News of the World last week.
He told us: "It's not true I want to leave England for Spain. My four-year-old daughter Florencia is learning English and my wife is very happy living in England.
"We want to stay. I want to play in England because it is the best league in the world and it suits my style."
Carlos Tevez lifts the Premier League trophy
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By CHRIS BASCOMBE, 16/05/2009
LIVERPOOL are confident of gatecrashing Manchester United's title party by snatching Carlos Tevez in a stunning £22million raid.
In what promises to be the biggest transfer coup of the summer, Kop boss Rafa Benitez has decided to make signing the Old Trafford idol his top priority.
He will make the offer for the Argentine striker after this month's Champions League final.
Benitez has already earmarked Liverpool's No 10 shirt for the South American and alerted the player's representatives of his determination to make a deal happen.
Now Tevez is willing to snub overtures from across Europe - and a £135,000-a-week offer from Manchester City - to become the first player to make the sensational move direct from Old Trafford to Anfield in 45 years.
Benitez's confidence he will land the striker grew after Tevez's announced his intention to quit United in last week's Sport of the World exclusive.
Liverpool have put a transfer strategy in place which relies on the £18m sale of Xabi Alonso and the release of up to 10 other squad players, raising the necessary funds to pay for 25-year-old Tevez.
Benitez wasn't originally in the market for a striker this summer, but the opportunity to steal Tevez from under the nose of Sir Alex Ferguson has been too much to resist.
Rafa is still smarting from Fergie's refusal to allow Gabriel Heinze a Kop move two years and wants to ram the United boss's claim he'd never let a top player join Liverpool down his neck.
Most importantly, he sees Tevez as a world class addition to his emerging squad, with Gareth Barry also joining from Aston Villa to add a formidable array of talent at Anfield.
Concerns
Although the frontline partnership between Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres has been an electrifying success for the Merseysiders, Rafa doesn't want to pay the price for more injury woes to his hitmen next season.
He believes Torres' hamstring problems cost Liverpool the vital points which would have won the title. And there are concerns about the large amount of football the striker has missed recently.
Benitez is currently headhunting a replacement physio to join his backroom team next season, with particular focus on protecting his Spanish superstar from further muscle problems.
He sees an attacking trio of Tevez and Torres, with the versatile Gerrard rotating between forward and midfield roles, as the winning formula for a renewed title assault.
The capture of Tevez will also reassure Kop fans disturbed by the prospect of losing the popular Alonso.
Alonso has said he'd rather stay on Merseyside, but privately his relationship with manager has been strained since last summer. He's set to snub a mega-offer of his own from Manchester City in order to join Real Madrid.
It was thought Alonso was being forced out to make way for Aston Villa's Barry, but it's now clear Benitez wants Tevez and Barry as he reshapes his side.
Liverpool were hopeful of offloading former Real Sociedad star Alonso to Manchester City after learning that Mark Hughes was ready to pay £18m.
But the midfielder, 27, whose wife gave birth to their first son just over a year ago, would need to have been persuaded to make the move and sacrifice Champions League football.
A source close to Alonso said: "If he was given the choice he would join Real Madrid and they are definitely very interested in signing him."
He has three years left on the five-year deal he signed in the summer of 2007 and Real would be willing to pay Liverpool around £15m.
Benitez was willing to listen to offers for the player last summer but his failure to land Barry meant they had to turn down an enquiry from Arsenal. Alonso was also strongly linked with a move to Juventus.
Tevez's desire to move to Liverpool will stun Fergie and the Old Trafford faithful, but the lure of joining his friend Javier Mascherano in a side where he'll be first choice will be hard to resist.
Irony
Liverpool fit the bill for the striker because he won't have to move home and is also assured Champions League football and a title challenge next season.
The irony won't be lost on both United and Liverpool fans that it is Tevez's performances in the last month which have gone a long way to keeping the title at Old Trafford for another year. But that has not put off Benitez, who thinks Tevez has recently proved Fergie has made a mistake not securing the player on a permanent deal.
The north-west rivals have notoriously refused to do business with each other over five decades of power-shifting success.
Paul Ince played for both club's in the 1990s, but joined Liverpool after a stint at Inter Milan. The last player to move directly from United to Liverpool was Phil Chisnall, signed by Bill Shankly in 1964.
Liverpool's pursuit of Tevez will see the battle lines between Rafa and Fergie drawn earlier than ever over the summer.
On the day United equalled Liverpool's record of 18 titles, Benitez was preparing to fire the first bullets in next season's war of words between the managers.
Tevez exclusively revealed he plans to quit Old Trafford but stay in England in the News of the World last week.
He told us: "It's not true I want to leave England for Spain. My four-year-old daughter Florencia is learning English and my wife is very happy living in England.
"We want to stay. I want to play in England because it is the best league in the world and it suits my style."
Selling Xabi would be a big mistake IMO - and an even worse one if we accept a paltry £15m for him. With three years left on his contract, and in the form he's been in this season, that is a fucking ridiculous fee.
I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.
Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
fuck it. do it rafa bring him in ;D
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I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.
Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?
I'd take Ribery over any other player just now, but since that is unlikely, Tevez would fit the bill rightly. We know he is less of a risk than Silva (who I just don't rate as a Liverpool player), and he can play in any of the three positions behind Torres, or spearhead the attack if Torres is missing.
Gill was on 5-live this morning saying they wanted to keep him, but he didn't sound convinced it would happen. Mascher could be the key factor in swinging this deal.
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I think Tevez would be rubbish at leading the line. What qualities does he possess IYO that make him any kind of replacement for an injured Torres?
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