Seems that way, you can't say a thing about the guy, cf one poster questioning why the defeat was anything to do with Klopp. Erm..
Swansea Post Match - just feck off
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Seems that way, you can't say a thing about the guy, cf one poster questioning why the defeat was anything to do with Klopp. Erm..
I know mate, and I don't think anyone really expected us to jump from 8th to champions overnight, it's right to keep perspective, but I think the issues at the moment - aside from being unlucky with a couple of injuries and Mane being away, are down to Klopp's hesitation during the games.
It's not a new issue and it's one he needs to sort out, because it's at times like this when he really needs to show he's got more in his locker than relying on a tight system and certain personnel, he has to recognise when things aren't working and have something else up his sleeve. For instance, he's persisted with playing Firmino wide for ages now, his and our best form were with him upfront, he plays back there yesteday and scores two. The flat midfield three isn't working and hasn't done really since Coutinho got injured, yet he's persisting with it. It's frustrating, because we're closer than we expected to be, but much of our problems are our own doing. And the defense is still terrible.
While I agree with all of that I think it also highlights the current paper thin nature of our squad
The reality being that the alternative to playing a regular first team player who is off form and out of position is often an even bigger drop off in standard
You can say what you like about anything you like. As can anyone else.
No.
The first half performance was the killer for me. We posed very threat to the Swansea defence, their was no urgency, no interchanging of play to try open them up, no pressing, nothing. Let them away with it and I bet they couldn't believe their luck when they got to half-time 0-0 and being largely untroubled.
That's what stinks about yesterday more than anything for me. We were at home against a bottom of the League team with the aim of getting 3 points to keep the pressure on Chelsea. If that's not motivation enough then I don't know what is. You can't just turn up and expect to roll teams over...no matter who they are. Complacency, lack of character, arrogance...maybe a mixture of the 3 but we bottled it either way.
That's what stinks about yesterday more than anything for me. We were at home against a bottom of the League team with the aim of getting 3 points to keep the pressure on Chelsea. If that's not motivation enough then I don't know what is. You can't just turn up and expect to roll teams over...no matter who they are. Complacency, lack of character, arrogance...maybe a mixture of the 3 but we bottled it either way.
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Oh and Klopp needs to behave himself blaming the atmosphere (lack of) all the bloody time. It's a 12.30 kick off post Christmas against relegation fodder....it was never gonna be bouncing. Nor would it have been at Old Trafford Stamford Bridge The Emirates or The Ethiad if they were playing Swansea at 12.30 on a January afternoon.
A shit atmosphere at their respective grounds didn't prevent them from winning League Titles.
A shit atmosphere at their respective grounds didn't prevent them from winning League Titles.
Its impossible to frustrate pace, intelligence and fluid football.
yesterday was all on us
No surprise really considering that two out of the three key first team players that came in to the team from last season have been missing.
Should we still not be beating the likes of Sunderland and Swansea without them?
Of course we should but it shouldn't come as a surprise either to see us revert to last years form without the players that have improved us this season.
The failure to compensate for the loss of Mane is negligence on our behalf.
Yeah but it's Oli Twist. He has no opinions of his own and is totally fucking pointless
Ignore the tit
Embarrassing isn't it?
It's actually quite reassuring that most fans here are aware enough and knowledgeable enough to make critical comments and discuss issues and problems with the team
What kind of cringing lickspittle would find it odd that we question the authority of the manager and the club? We know what the issues are
The shite defence and lack of ability to control games has been glaringly obvious for years
Shite defence and lack of ability to control games is obvious. We all know that...and even when we were ripping it up in the first half of the season it was obvious.
Hopefully it'll come with experience, possibly new players in one or two area's etc.
What was more damning yesterday was our failure to play to our strengths and go for the throat in that first half. What we can control is ability to put team's like Swansea under serious pressure from the first whistle by showing urgency, moving them around and by pressing them etc. That was the hardest thing to accept.
Hopefully it'll come with experience, possibly new players in one or two area's etc.
What was more damning yesterday was our failure to play to our strengths and go for the throat in that first half. What we can control is ability to put team's like Swansea under serious pressure from the first whistle by showing urgency, moving them around and by pressing them etc. That was the hardest thing to accept.
Arsenal score an injury time penalty winner
Fucking great
I'm worried about the Top 4 now; we have Spurs and Arsenal - who usually finish above us - chasing Chelsea, but our biggest threat now could be the two Manchester clubs, given we aren't going to be genuine title challengers and the London clubs will probably finish above us
Fucking great
I'm worried about the Top 4 now; we have Spurs and Arsenal - who usually finish above us - chasing Chelsea, but our biggest threat now could be the two Manchester clubs, given we aren't going to be genuine title challengers and the London clubs will probably finish above us
Once Mane comes comes back, we'll be ok - him / coutinho / firmino are awesome together.
But yes, the optimism of a top 4 finish is being shaken.
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That my friend was the main problem - not just defense errors.
It is.
Not reinforcing now would surely be the very definition of a false economy.
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