I too dream of a conference league and carabao double, but we cannot expect such things
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I too dream of a conference league and carabao double, but we cannot expect such things
We definitely shouldn’t have a shortlist of one. If Bellingham was to rupture his knee we wouldn’t sign him this summer so need other options.
Wasn't it reported that we have a pretty big short list this summer and which isnt something that we usually do? Think it was in the Echo.
Bar Mount and Nunes, I dont think I'd spend a big part of our budget on a overpriced midfielder already in the PL, like Mac Allister or Caciedo.
Bar Mount and Nunes, I dont think I'd spend a big part of our budget on a overpriced midfielder already in the PL, like Mac Allister or Caciedo.
It's probably the only scenario in which we could afford him
We would, but it most likely wouldn't be enough to get us back to winning the big prizes. We've been here before with Virgil and Alisson. If all we want to do is improve our current performance, we forget about Bellingham. If we want to do so to an extent which puts us back in contention for the trophies that matter, we need Bellingham quality AND other reinforcements.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/get-mbappe-to-liverpool
Not doing too badly here guys.....just another 249,995,787m to go!
Not doing too badly here guys.....just another 249,995,787m to go!
Even they've given up and will donate it to charity instead
Finally shows why FSG's strategy of no new midfielders, unless we sign Tchouameni, was spot on.
Trent is working hard to ensure *he* gets his move to CIty or Real, wherever Jude is
Tbf they probably got further than FSG did!
FUCKING OUCH
Virgil and Alli were *final* pieces to an almost ready jigsaw puzzle.
Are you saying this is an almost ready jigsaw puzzle and we're missing 2 pieces to compete on all fronts again?
We need midfielders who are like Mane @ soton quality, Mo @ Roma quality etc - and neither of those two were not considered "bellingham quality" (i.e. top talent in the world) when we signed them.
Let's be absolutely clear - you are talking about spending 300-400M there. I'd love for it to happen but how likely do you think it is that it will?
Part of the reason we're in the mess we're in now is because we've been far too rigid and narrow in our thinking.
Strategies have to evolve. Times change. You don't necessarily develop a championship winning team in the same way you would one that is developing into a championship team.
If we can't buy our way out of trouble, I'd rather we just accept our position and figure out a 2 season plan to get back to where we want to be.
Wait for another once in a generation manager to become available so he can produce more miracles?
Klopp is one of the kind and unfortunately we didn't make the most of his time here.
But is Arteta a generational manager?
First things first, let's get some very good, young players who are hungry for success.
Yes and no, I’m sure Klopp himself would feel differently and wouldn’t swap his success here with City’s for example.
Arteta?!? 6-7 months doesn’t even come close to measuring up to being a generational manager….in fact he’s done nothing.
You'd hope so anyway....
I can't speak for @binomial but us 3 really didn't want Jude at £120m, when we need a rebuild. There are myriad of options out there for less than €40m. Even Barella is available for less tha £60m, which is what we paid for an Oompah Loompah made out of chocolate
I know this is not a perfectly rational way of thinking but our transfer strategy has been frankly boring and predictable the past few years. We are competing for the same players as Madrid, Chelsea, Man United with a percentage of their budget.
Our success was built on the legs of out of the box signings like Mane, Salah, Gini, Robertson, Coutinho - the type of players whom top clubs didn't really consider due to various reasons. Of course, there was an element of luck as more established and glamorous signings like Gotze and Brandt turned us down.
Who's the fourth guy? Me you Moron &????????
If we'd gone for the "almost as good as" alternatives that some were suggesting on here, I don't think we'd have won what we did after they arrived. We had a good squad, but I didn't and still don't think it would have made the step up to the very top level unless we brought in players who genuinely were THE best out there.
IMO that's an overestimate of what the cost would be. Bellingham for £120-150 mill.and Gvardiol and Nunes for £35-40 mill.each would be enough. It's true that that doesn't currently seem likely and I agree with your second para, but I'd locate that rigidity of thinking in the owners' approach to finance rather than in the area of transfers. Klopp wants us to stay at the top and thinks he can achieve that with the right support. Your final para.is a respectable point of view but I'd prefer to avoid such compromises when (a) the manager doesn't think they're a good idea and (b) there's no guarantee that we would be able to climb the mountain again.
I think we have a 2-3 year process potentially...
As I said, find the mane/Salah like quality... really good players just before that next bounce... and then I'll be all for the wait for the vvd/alli piece to take us to the next level ... it's not an immediate return for us I think ...
There is no way we will have 150-200m to spend without sales. Never had, never will have, at least not with these owners. We will be laughing if we can squeeze out 80m for players this summer. I am not sure where the optimism comes from but Jude will cost 100m at least and I don't see how we can afford him. Dortmund are not mugs, there will not be any charitable moment from them.
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