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Stability Might Be Key

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It is that time again - ‘The dreaded summer break’… where we have no football to keep the majority of us sane.

But what is worse than no football? For me, all the rumours, scrutiny and uncertainty from the media and fans regarding what changes will be made before the beginning of the new football season.

Luckily the media can be ignored, if needed, as the majority of people realise that it is their job to cause trouble and spin wherever possible. Benitez gives little away regarding who the club might be interested in, our approach for the summer, potential targets and therefore they are feeding off scraps of material and rely on putting 2+2 together with little validity and reliability.

The fans at Liverpool and every other club always demand more… more players, more money, more trophies! This is understandable as they care about the club and crave to be successful on and off the field.

Last season our side gave our fans a great challenge for the title, despite losing Torres for a large part of the season… this has given us more optimism for next season. Looking at our challengers it seems lots of changes are taking place, with Manchester United losing Ronaldo / Tevez and Chelsea getting a new manager. All this should hopefully lead to little stability and maybe less control than usual. This should give our side a window of opportunity and it is one which we need to exploit, before Ferguson’s new United team has moulded and is settled or Chelsea’s new manager is comfortable with the English game and his squad.

By contrast, at present, the changes at our club have been minimal. Benitez has looked at the squad and decided that an area which can be improved upon is right back, with Johnson coming in. Johnson is an attacking full back, which should hopefully enable us to break down the weaker teams which have cost us dearly the last two seasons. However there is a question mark about his defending. But luckily Benitez has shown he’s a superb defensive organiser and coach. Also in front of him he’ll have the ever willing Kuyt who will give him superb energy and protection. Individually they might not be the most complete players. However as a combination, Kuyt and Johnson might be extremely effective in both defence and attack. Johnson helping Kuyt in attack and vice versa in the defensive part of the game.

It is unknown what other changes will be made, on the field, however Benitez has indicated that changes will be minimal.

Off the field Benitez has bought in the shrewd addition of Dalglish, which can only help the club given his experience, knowledge and passion for the club. Last season Benitez bought in Pellegrino and Sammy Lee who both made impacts in helping Liverpool giving United a good run for the title and achieving our highest points total ever in the Premiership. Dalglish can only enhance the clubs chances in improving and between Benitez, Dalglish, Lee and Pelegrino we should have the right balance and all the characteristics needed to succeeding our aims.

Our club has its problems, as we know, with our two owners looking at making as much money from the club as possible, seeing it as a business more than anything else. This sickens the supporters who see us in debt and the owners milking the club, rather than respecting our traditions and embracing the club as we hoped our new owners would do when Moores sold the club.

However footballing-wise Benitez heads a group which has all the characteristics on the pitch and off it to challenge on all front. He’s built a team full of some of the best players in Europe. The team is extremely organised, hard working and as a result tough to beat. The defence doesn’t leak many goals and in Reina we have a keeper who challengers for the golden glove every season.

In attack we have two of the best match winners in the world in Gerrard and Torres. They get plenty of possession to hurt teams given Mascherano and Alonso boss the centre of midfield in every game no matter who is the opposition. But it is not just the spine which is impressive, other players make significant contributions , in attack and defence, such as Riera, Kuyt, Aurelio and Benayoun to help us win games.

There seems to be harmony between the back ground staff and the players, controlled superbly by Benitez - where it seems everyone is all singing off the same hymn sheet. There is a great blend between this current group and given the amount of changes made between our rivals this stability might make all the difference next season in us reach our aim in bringing back the title to Anfield.

Let's hope so.

YNWA
 
Good read, thanks.

We do have a great chance next season, coming so close ha s given the players valuable experience and hopefully we'll be in a position to capitalise on our rivals weaknesses that you've identified above.

As first posts go that's a very good one!
 
Welcome to the site

Stability is indeed a massive part of success, and can take a huge amount of credit for our rise last season; however with both Masher and Alonso reported to be seeking pastures new, I cannot muster the same optimistic tone.

If they do stay. and we sign one more match-winner, then everything is different.
 
Thanks for the welcome guys.

I remember when Chelsea had just won two titles under Mourinho and no one thougth anyone would beat them to the title for a long time. United sold their top striker in RNV and bought Carrick, which seemed vastly over priced. United benefitted with the little transfer activity, hit the ground running, got some form, momentum and went on to win the league.

Same occured two season's ago when Henry left Arsenal. Everyone thought they would struggle and even tipped Spurs to get in the top four ahead of them. Arsenal hardly had any transfer activity that summer with Eduardo coming in, they hit the ground running and challenged for the title, which they possibly could have won had Edurado not got injured.

I think stability can really help a side have a good start and when our side consists of Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger (or Skrtel), Mascherano, Alonso, Kuyt, Gerrard and Torres... we don't really need many additions.
 
Great first post Yawl. Totally agree and thats why Real/Barca will have to pay top fucking dollar to shift our DM 'stability'. Our current 1st side squad and formation is really starting to gel and keeping it together should be the first priority. Unfortunately I think one of them will go but I am comforted a little in that if one does go, we will be handsomely rewarded.
 
I'd rather be handsomely rewarded with a league title, as I'm sure you would.

So much would depend on Rafa getting the replacement bang-on. No settling in period. No adjustment. Just great performances from the first game till the last.

That's a big ask from the boss.
 
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I'd rather be handsomely rewarded with a league title, as I'm sure you would.

So much would depend on Rafa getting the replacement bang-on. No settling in period. No adjustment. Just great performances from the first game till the last.

That's a big ask from the boss.
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Definitely prefer to keep them. Just saying it looks like if one does go, we will have sufficient funds to find a quality replacement.
 
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I'd rather be handsomely rewarded with a league title, as I'm sure you would.

So much would depend on Rafa getting the replacement bang-on. No settling in period. No adjustment. Just great performances from the first game till the last.

That's a big ask from the boss.
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Definitely prefer to keep them. Just saying it looks like if one does go, we will have sufficient funds to find a quality replacement.
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Do you remember before Benitez arrived we couldn't get any decent fees for hardly any of our players.

He's cobbled together a team where the best teams in Europe want our players on a limited budget.
 
Cobbled together on a limited budget?

Hmmmm. He's done well overall, but that's a bit of an exaggeration.
 
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Cobbled together on a limited budget?

Hmmmm. He's done well overall, but that's a bit of an exaggeration.
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Well 20 million net per season.

Hardly had massive resources compared to Chelsea. He's not had the luxury of United to spend 30 million on a Berbatov, 30 million on Ferdinand, 18 million on Carrick, 18 million on Hargreaves, 18 million on Nani, 18 million on Anderson (?), 30 million on Rooney...

He's spend big (15 million+) on Mascherano, Torres and Keane. Two highly successful, one not.
 
Nice post YAWL.

Am I correct in saying no team has won the PL (from it's inception as the PL) other than from either 1st or 2nd the previous season ? Or is that an Urban Legend.
 
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Nice post YAWL.

Am I correct in saying no team has won the PL (from it's inception as the PL) other than from either 1st or 2nd the previous season ? Or is that an Urban Legend.
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I don't remember a team coming out of the blue and winning the Premiership without challenging the season before hand.
 
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I'd rather be handsomely rewarded with a league title, as I'm sure you would.

So much would depend on Rafa getting the replacement bang-on. No settling in period. No adjustment. Just great performances from the first game till the last.

That's a big ask from the boss.
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Definitely prefer to keep them. Just saying it looks like if one does go, we will have sufficient funds to find a quality replacement.
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Do you remember before Benitez arrived we couldn't get any decent fees for hardly any of our players.

He's cobbled together a team where the best teams in Europe want our players on a limited budget.
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You are talking to the converted with me. There are plenty on here that will disagree with you though. Be prepared.
 
If the converted are those that repeatedly ignore the facts and continue to spout nonsense then yes ... Biggus you are the converted.

These are from our last three sets of accounts

Financial Year Ending 2007 2006 2005
Purchases 69,972 41,753 46,106
Sales 25,946 16,838 13,162
Net Transfer Activity 44,026 24,915 32,944
 
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If the converted are those that repeatedly ignore the facts and continue to spout nonsense then yes ... Biggus you are the converted.

These are from our last three sets of accounts

Financial Year Ending 2007 2006 2005
Purchases 69,972 41,753 46,106
Sales 25,946 16,838 13,162
Net Transfer Activity 44,026 24,915 32,944
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i believe Rafa has turned a very ordinary squad, full of overpaid players on long contracts that he couldn't give away, into a title challenging one under difficult conditions. Namely not being able to build as strong a squad as MU and Chelsea due to wage constraints more than anything else. Even Arsenel pay more wages than us. I know a lot disagree with me but i do think Rafa has done a great job under the circumstances and thats an opinion I have formed by taking in all factors.

I never said he did it with no money so I am not really sure what your post is about other than you telling me I continually spout shite and ignore facts. Well done.
 
The only "difficult conditions" he's had to work under are those with the owners, for which he's equally responsible, and I suppose there's a case for lacking power in key areas of the club, which he's now got.

As for transfer fees, he hasn't always been able to blow £30M on individual players, but he's been given a generous budget of which we've had mixed results. As we've seen at United buying big doesn't guarantee the signing being a success- Nani & Anderson £30M, Hargreeves £20M, £16M on two kids we've yet to see, £30M on Berbatov, etc.  And if we look close to home - Robbie Keane, £22M. Which proves money isn't everything, there are very good players out there within Benitez's reach, and at times he's identified the wrong option.

Thankfully he's shipped out the dross and has, for now, kept hold of all the good players, making our first team much stronger than under previous regimes; however pretending he's done it on a shoe string is nonsense.
 
Well I have never said he did it on a shoestring. He has had decent transfer funds to use no doubt but the players he brings in have to fit within a certain wage limit as our turnover does not allow for us to spend as much as our main competitors.
 
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