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So, assuming we get Suarez and Adam...

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keniget

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We've been talking about this across numerous threads since our interest became apparent... what's the thinking behind these signings and how are we going to line up?

Holloway amidst his mad ranting and raving probably isn't too far off in saying we've never replaced Xabi Alonso. We may have bought a fine midfielder in Meireles, but we have no one to put his foot on the ball, take the sting out of the game and pick out a pass really (that is unless you're a RAWKite, in which case Lucas is the modern day Redondo). So we have to hope that Adam will kinda fulfil this role for us and that far from struggling to make the move, he'll find it easier playing alongside better players.

Suarez, well the thinking is probably quite easy there. We're shit out wide and bar Torres, shit up front. We need more players to shoulder the goal scoring burden and although one top attacker will do nicely, we'll still need more.

So, I'm really really hoping we'll line up something like this:

---- Suarez ---- Torres ---- Kuyt
---------------- Gerrard
------- Meireles --- Adam / Lucas

Kuyt is far better suited to playing wide forward than he is a winger and with Suarez it's a given. The midfield would hopefully also play closer together and encourage better movement and passing in the centre of the park. Also, it gives others apart from Gerrard the opportunity to make late runs to support the attack on occasion... although obviously he would be the main candidate for doing this over the course of the game.
 
As you've put it is what I had in mind Keni, Suarez wide left (forward) most of the time, and cover for Torres. With Adam, Meireles and Gerrard in midfield.
 
That sounds about right, though I'd love to see this at times:

---- Suarez ---- Torres ---- Gerrard
---------------- Meireles------------
----------- Adam------- Lucas------
 
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---- Suarez ---- Torres ---- Kuyt
---------------- Gerrard
------- Meireles --- Adam / Lucas

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This. With Carra coming back, Johnson doing a decent job on the left and Kelly shining on the right we might actually have a decent team if we pull off these signings.
 
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=43808.msg1261818#msg1261818 date=1295943091]
That sounds about right, though I'd love to see this at times:

---- Suarez ---- Torres ---- Gerrard
---------------- Meireles------------
----------- Adam------- Lucas------


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I'd have no problem with that Mama.
 
Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
 
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As you've put it is what I had in mind Keni, Suarez wide left (forward) most of the time, and cover for Torres. With Adam, Meireles and Gerrard in midfield.
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Where's the pace though? Where's the width?
 
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Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
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I agree we still need a DM, I'm guessing he wants someone in the deep playmaker role, for which he's sees Adam as ideal. I could live with that if we're gonna persist with three midfielders (which is arguably right, to allow us to play Gerrard in his best role). And it gives us depth too.
 
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Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
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I suppose we go for Adam because he's a type of player we don't currently have. Adam doesn't play further forward than that, though he has been used like that. He generally plays deep, though manages to glide up in support of the attack when the space opens in front of him.
 
Adam needs to shed a few kilo's and he will as soon as he joins. I think there's some potential there.
We might get him to start tracking back.
 
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As you've put it is what I had in mind Keni, Suarez wide left (forward) most of the time, and cover for Torres. With Adam, Meireles and Gerrard in midfield.
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Where's the pace though? Where's the width?
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Suarez isn't a slouch, but we need to take this one step at a time, we weren't looking at Young instead of Suarez. I think we'll be in the market for a winger aswell, or in the Summer anyway, we can't do everything in one window. The pace thing is less of an issue anyway if we can accomplish Kenny's idea of having four or five players constantly pressing high up the pitch. Between Gerrard and Torres we have a fair amount of pace anyway. Then there's Johnson and Kelly too.
 
I think any new formation we have should have at least one wide player with pace and a good cross I.e. 'someone' to provide width if we have to switch to a 4-4-2/4-5-1
 
Question, I see a lot of you placing Suarez on the left, does he have experience playing this position? I watched every world cup match last summer and I don't recall him playing on the left, but that was quite a while ago and I could just be forgetful. I thought he was more of a 4-4-2 partner type or a 4-1-4-1 lone striker, given his numbers. feel free to enlighten me
 
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Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
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We still need a DM true but the formation above would be so much better then what we've had this season. At home games against lesser opponents it could be a devastating midfield. If we could yet add a good dynamic DM we would have a wealth of tactical options to choose from.

I feel Suarez is well capable of offering width and pace on the left. Or do you think there's a better option in our squad?
 
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Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
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We still need a DM true but the formation above would be so much better then what we've had this season. At home games against lesser opponents it could be a devastating midfield. If we could yet add a good dynamic DM we would have a wealth of tactical options to choose from.

I feel Suarez is well capable of offering width and pace on the left. Or do you think there's a better option in our squad?
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There are NO options providing width, pace and skill on the left in our squad. But for £20m we could buy someone with more pace and width than Suarez. I just don't see the point in signing a striker and then playing him on the wing because we don't have a winger.
 
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Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
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We still need a DM true but the formation above would be so much better then what we've had this season. At home games against lesser opponents it could be a devastating midfield. If we could yet add a good dynamic DM we would have a wealth of tactical options to choose from.

I feel Suarez is well capable of offering width and pace on the left. Or do you think there's a better option in our squad?
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There are NO options providing width, pace and skill on the left in our squad. But for £20m we could buy someone with more pace and width than Suarez. I just don't see the point in signing a striker and then playing him on the wing because we don't have a winger.

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But this thread is about how we should play if we sign Suarez and Adam. 😉

Anyway, he wouldn't be a winger he'd be a wing forward and I feel he's perfectly suited to that role from what I've seen of him. Ideally we'd have someone like Suarez and someone who is more a winger besides Torres but that can be addressed later. Johnson and Kelly are also capable of offering some additional width in attack for the time being.
 
dont forget warnock and nzogbia

rumours flying about a deal has been agreed in principle for nzogbia, although Wigan have been quick to dismiss it..

*coughs*
 
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Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
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We still need a DM true but the formation above would be so much better then what we've had this season. At home games against lesser opponents it could be a devastating midfield. If we could yet add a good dynamic DM we would have a wealth of tactical options to choose from.

I feel Suarez is well capable of offering width and pace on the left. Or do you think there's a better option in our squad?
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There are NO options providing width, pace and skill on the left in our squad. But for £20m we could buy someone with more pace and width than Suarez. I just don't see the point in signing a striker and then playing him on the wing because we don't have a winger.

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but we need quality cover for torres who won't be completely useless when torres is fit, as someone like darren bent imo would be. tbh i'm not completely sold on the idea of suarez myself - i don't know too much about him really - but in general i think the idea of buying someone who can fit in anywhere in the front 4 of a 4-2-3-1 is the way to go. in an ideal world it'd be, say, carlos tevez, but maybe suarez would prove a good alternative.
 
Suarez is capable of playing wide forward effectively. I might be wrong, but I'm sure he's played that role for Ajax in the past.

As Peter said, getting someone who is quite versatile and can fill in across the attacking line is a massive plus for us at this point exactly because we do need a number of positions filling and we're not going to be able to do it all in one winter transfer window. Suarez, hopefully, will give us the option of playing two up top as well as injecting a bit of pace, quality and goalscoring ability out wide should we play him there.
 
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Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
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We still need a DM true but the formation above would be so much better then what we've had this season. At home games against lesser opponents it could be a devastating midfield. If we could yet add a good dynamic DM we would have a wealth of tactical options to choose from.

I feel Suarez is well capable of offering width and pace on the left. Or do you think there's a better option in our squad?
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There are NO options providing width, pace and skill on the left in our squad. But for £20m we could buy someone with more pace and width than Suarez. I just don't see the point in signing a striker and then playing him on the wing because we don't have a winger.

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but we need quality cover for torres who won't be completely useless when torres is fit, as someone like darren bent imo would be. tbh i'm not completely sold on the idea of suarez myself - i don't know too much about him really - but in general i think the idea of buying someone who can fit in anywhere in the front 4 of a 4-2-3-1 is the way to go. in an ideal world it'd be, say, carlos tevez, but maybe suarez would prove a good alternative.
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I like Suarez! I want us to sign him! I just think he'd be better as a second striker than as a wing-forward.

More to the point, I don't really see the logic of us signing him and Charlie Adam - but no LW and no DM. Still, they're both good footballers, and if they just end up being straight replacements for Maxi and Lucas/Poulsen, then I guess it's a clear improvement.
 
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Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
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We still need a DM true but the formation above would be so much better then what we've had this season. At home games against lesser opponents it could be a devastating midfield. If we could yet add a good dynamic DM we would have a wealth of tactical options to choose from.

I feel Suarez is well capable of offering width and pace on the left. Or do you think there's a better option in our squad?
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There are NO options providing width, pace and skill on the left in our squad. But for £20m we could buy someone with more pace and width than Suarez. I just don't see the point in signing a striker and then playing him on the wing because we don't have a winger.

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but we need quality cover for torres who won't be completely useless when torres is fit, as someone like darren bent imo would be. tbh i'm not completely sold on the idea of suarez myself - i don't know too much about him really - but in general i think the idea of buying someone who can fit in anywhere in the front 4 of a 4-2-3-1 is the way to go. in an ideal world it'd be, say, carlos tevez, but maybe suarez would prove a good alternative.
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I like Suarez! I want us to sign him! I just think he'd be better as a second striker than as a wing-forward.

More to the point, I don't really see the logic of us signing him and Charlie Adam - but no LW and no DM. Still, they're both good footballers, and if they just end up being straight replacements for Maxi and Lucas/Poulsen, then I guess it's a clear improvement.
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oh yeah, i wasn't suggesting you were against him as such. as i said, i like the idea of having someone like him as backup to torres, because most of the time torres will hopefully be playing himself as the striker, but i agree that we'd also ideally have more of a pacy, traditional winger type as well. that, for me, makes kuyt the fall guy, and the one i'd ultimately like to see replaced by an eden hazard type.

i agree about adam as well. it looks like a strange priority on the face of it when we've never replaced mascherano and already have meireles and gerrard to fit into a midfield. i'm not sure adam-meireles-gerrard is really a viable midfield in about 80% of premier league matches. i think on the whole it might be better to wait until the summer to go after adam when blackpool should be more willing to compromise on the price.
 
Suarez will support Torres or play wide left and is an upgrade on Maxi/Kuyt who play there.

Adam appears to be better than Poulsen but they're essentially different types of players. Kenny may yet get Poulsen looking a decent player. The signs are there.

Hardly any point bringing in average players to strengthen the squad when we need players to go straight into the startting XI.
 
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Maybe I haven't seen enough of Adam, but he often plays further forward than that, doesn't he? What worries me about that formation is that there's no real tackler in CM. And what baffles me is that Kenny has, so far, picked a specialist DM in every game - in spite of the fact that our DMs are really shit. So why go for Adam now? Just because he seems like a bargain and wants to come? I don't really get it.

I also see Suarez more as a no10 - a partner for Torres in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. I'm sure he could do OK in that wide forward position, but I'd rather see us line up with more pace out wide and two strikers.
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We still need a DM true but the formation above would be so much better then what we've had this season. At home games against lesser opponents it could be a devastating midfield. If we could yet add a good dynamic DM we would have a wealth of tactical options to choose from.

I feel Suarez is well capable of offering width and pace on the left. Or do you think there's a better option in our squad?
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There are NO options providing width, pace and skill on the left in our squad. But for £20m we could buy someone with more pace and width than Suarez. I just don't see the point in signing a striker and then playing him on the wing because we don't have a winger.

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but we need quality cover for torres who won't be completely useless when torres is fit, as someone like darren bent imo would be. tbh i'm not completely sold on the idea of suarez myself - i don't know too much about him really - but in general i think the idea of buying someone who can fit in anywhere in the front 4 of a 4-2-3-1 is the way to go. in an ideal world it'd be, say, carlos tevez, but maybe suarez would prove a good alternative.
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I like Suarez! I want us to sign him! I just think he'd be better as a second striker than as a wing-forward.

More to the point, I don't really see the logic of us signing him and Charlie Adam - but no LW and no DM. Still, they're both good footballers, and if they just end up being straight replacements for Maxi and Lucas/Poulsen, then I guess it's a clear improvement.
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oh yeah, i wasn't suggesting you were against him as such. as i said, i like the idea of having someone like him as backup to torres, because most of the time torres will hopefully be playing himself as the striker, but i agree that we'd also ideally have more of a pacy, traditional winger type as well. that, for me, makes kuyt the fall guy, and the one i'd ultimately like to see replaced by an eden hazard type.

i agree about adam as well. it looks like a strange priority on the face of it when we've never replaced mascherano and already have meireles and gerrard to fit into a midfield. i'm not sure adam-meireles-gerrard is really a viable midfield in about 80% of premier league matches. i think on the whole it might be better to wait until the summer to go after adam when blackpool should be more willing to compromise on the price.
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Agree with most of this. I too would like to get a DM before Adam but I'm assuming a right player at the right price isn't available at the moment. Rather Adam now than nothing.
 
Signing Suarez & Adam would be the start of solving the jigsaw if we are to develop the squad to effectively challenge at the top again.

I'm all for keeping the 4-2-3-1 system that Benitez employed - it gets the best out of our best outfield players Gerrard & Torres.

The key to it working is effective players on either side of Gerrard that can offer the pace & creativity needed to break down teams that park the bus; chip in with enough goals to tyake the bureden off Torres & Gerrard and ideally be able to cover Torres & Gerrards positions in the event they can't play.

That's why Suarez is so tempting - by all accounts he is capable of covering all 4 of the attacking positions - so if he starts regularly on the right, he can move upfront when needed. As has been pointed out it's not a winger position, in the traditional sense - the wide forward has got to be adept at using the wide areas when attacking down that flank, but also coming in and being a second striker when attacking down the other flank. Kuyt & maxi have the technical capabilities to play in these roles, but they're getting on a bit & have never been blessed with pace. Joe Cole should be capable of playing in these positions as well and probably more so in the centre as back-up to Gerrard.

The Key there is getting someone to fill the left side – hence the interest in Ashley Young, Hazard, etc & that French bloke who was at Anfield a few weeks back.

Next up is the central midfield. The partnership of Mascherano & Alonso was perfect in many ways. The only criticism was that sometimes we could have used someone a little bit more attack minded than mascherano. It was also the case that when we played “big†teams it often worked to have Lucas alongside Mascherano as we could control the opposition midfield while freeing the forwards to do what they do best (eg Man td @ Old Trafford when we won 4-1).

So the idea is to have 3 midfielders capable of playing in the 2 positions and offering different skill sets. Adam interests, because his passing range would be more like Alonso. Merieles offers something a little bit more mobile – a tidy players able to aid the attack and help out in defense. We know we need to go out and sign a top quality replacement to do the Mascherano job. Poulsen is cleary not the man for this. Lucas might even have a role filling out as the 4th midfielder able to step in from time to time. One of Lucas or Spearing can be off-loaded in the summer for sure – and the other if we identify a replacement.

In defense, Johnson will revert to RB and Carragher & Agger will probably form the central 2. Skrtel can be sacrificed & we can seek out a CB to finally replace Hypia. Kelly & Wilson seem to be the young lads capable of providing CB cover as well as full back cover.

LB is the area of concern & Warnock, if he is signed, is no more a long term solution than Konchesky or Aurelio. By the looks of it we’re going to try and make do until the summer which is fair enough.

With other youngsters such as Pacheco, Ayala, Suso, Ince, & Silva getting closer to first team action, we might actually be in a much better position than we seemed only a few weeks ago.
 
I still doubt these new owners we wont sign any of these players they are short of hard cash .
 
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That sounds about right, though I'd love to see this at times:

---- Suarez ---- Torres ---- Gerrard
---------------- Meireles------------
----------- Adam------- Lucas------


[/quote]That is fucking beast. AND its got Lucas in it.
That till summer then buy a specialist DM and a LB and a dominant CB
Boom!!
 
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That sounds about right, though I'd love to see this at times:

---- Suarez ---- Torres ---- Gerrard
---------------- Meireles------------
----------- Adam------- Lucas------


[/quote]That is fucking beast. AND its got Lucas in it.
That till summer then buy a specialist DM and a LB and a dominant CB
Boom!!
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IMO we'd still be at least one quality wide-player short.

Suarez and Gerrard's not got the pace aqcuired pace to be entrusted with playing week in week out in that position. Same goes for Kuyt and Pacheco for that matter.

personally I'd prefer Gerrard in central to be honest.

SUAREZ....................................TORRES............................................YOUNG

.................................GERRARD................RAUL............................................

............................................MARTINEZ........................................................
 
Quote from: Mamma Mia on Today at 10:11:31 AM
That sounds about right, though I'd love to see this at times:

---- Suarez ---- Torres ---- Gerrard
---------------- Meireles------------
----------- Adam------- Lucas------

say we have to drop back and switch the formation because we are under the cosh

-------------------------- Suarez ---- Torres ------------------
Gerrard ----------- Adam------- Lucas------------------Meireles


nice...

this is a 'little' better

------------------------------Torres ------------------
----------------------- Meireles----
Suarez ----------- Adam------- Lucas------------------Gerrard


but it's still not ideal.
 
Arent both of these deals effectively dead in the water, we are offering less than half of Ajaxs valuation of Suarez according to reports, now I dont think hes worth $26m but the gap between what the want and what we are offering is too vast. And Blackpool are just being ridiculous about the fee for Adam, they are entitled to do it, there is no reason they should sell their best player unless they get a fee theyre happy with but it seems too high a number for stats crunching team at FSG
 
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