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[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=40525.msg1125974#msg1125974 date=1277419494]
Liverpool set to announce Roy Hodgson as manager


Roy Hodgson Liverpool are confident of bringing Roy Hodgson to Liverpool.

Liverpool expect to finalise the appointment of Roy Hodgson as the club's new manager following his return from South Africa today. The Fulham manager, who has been commenting at the World Cup for the BBC, has been the frontrunner for the Liverpool job since Rafael Benítez left Anfield this month and could be confirmed as the Spaniard's successor within days.

Liverpool have considered several candidates for the position, including the former Real Madrid and Villarreal coach Manuel Pellegrini, but Kenny Dalglish, the club legend asked to conduct the managerial search alongside the managing director, Christian Purslow, is not in the running.

Anfield officials are confident of securing a deal with Hodgson now that he has returned from South Africa and with his prospects of being offered the chance to succeed Fabio Capello as England manager diminished by the national team's World Cup victory over Slovenia.

It is understood the make-up of Hodgson's backroom staff is one of the issues to be resolved prior to his appointment, with the 62-year-old keen to bring the Fulham assistant manager, Mike Kelly, with him to Merseyside.

While Liverpool await the arrival of their next manager, Yossi Benayoun is close to leaving Anfield for Chelsea after the two clubs agreed a £5m fee for the Israel international.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/24/liverpool-roy-hodgson-manager
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That makes me sick. There is very little chance of getting as good a player in for 5M
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1125970#msg1125970 date=1277418470]
Bellends who moaned like fuck to get rid of Benitez now moaning like fuck that a manager who hasn't even held a team talk is going to lead us into oblivion. Fucking dickheads.
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Benitez needed to go.

But he didn't need to be replaced by a sub-standard no hoper like Hodgson, who's won sweet FUCK ALL in his career.

There were much better candidates out there than him. As usual, we've fucked it up...again.
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40525.msg1125980#msg1125980 date=1277420322]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1125970#msg1125970 date=1277418470]
Bellends who moaned like fuck to get rid of Benitez now moaning like fuck that a manager who hasn't even held a team talk is going to lead us into oblivion. Fucking dickheads.
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Benitez needed to go.

But he didn't need to be replaced by a sub-standard no hoper like Hodgson, who's won sweet FUCK ALL in his career.

There were much better candidates out there than him. As usual, we've fucked it up...again.
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Why? Where have we finished under Hodgson?
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1125981#msg1125981 date=1277420417]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40525.msg1125980#msg1125980 date=1277420322]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1125970#msg1125970 date=1277418470]
Bellends who moaned like fuck to get rid of Benitez now moaning like fuck that a manager who hasn't even held a team talk is going to lead us into oblivion. Fucking dickheads.
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Benitez needed to go.

But he didn't need to be replaced by a sub-standard no hoper like Hodgson, who's won sweet FUCK ALL in his career.

There were much better candidates out there than him. As usual, we've fucked it up...again.
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Why? Where have we finished under Hodgson?
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More importantly, where has HE finished in his career.

His record is appalling and how he could even be considered for the Liverpool top job is beyond comprehension.

All this shit appointment will do is split the fans....again.
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40525.msg1125982#msg1125982 date=1277420550]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1125981#msg1125981 date=1277420417]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40525.msg1125980#msg1125980 date=1277420322]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1125970#msg1125970 date=1277418470]
Bellends who moaned like fuck to get rid of Benitez now moaning like fuck that a manager who hasn't even held a team talk is going to lead us into oblivion. Fucking dickheads.
[/quote]


Benitez needed to go.

But he didn't need to be replaced by a sub-standard no hoper like Hodgson, who's won sweet FUCK ALL in his career.

There were much better candidates out there than him. As usual, we've fucked it up...again.
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Why? Where have we finished under Hodgson?
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More importantly, where has HE finished in his career.


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Can someone change Terrier's username to Mystic Meg please.

Let's see what happens before we roll out the 'Oh Woe Me' eh.
 
Look Sheiky, everyone has his personal opinion.

You think it's a good appointment, I think it's not.

I was hoping for someone inspiring, someone who had a bit of a record, someone who won more than 1 away game last year.

We've got neither.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40525.msg1125968#msg1125968 date=1277417696]
meh.

part one of the asset stripping accomplished.
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what?

what's part one?

and then what's part two?
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40525.msg1125985#msg1125985 date=1277420921]
Look Sheiky, everyone has his personal opinion.

You think it's a good appointment, I think it's not.

I was hoping for someone inspiring, someone who had a bit of a record, someone who won more than 1 away game last year.

We've got neither.

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Do I?

If you'd read my earlier post on it, you'd see I was of the opinion that it's a fairly uninspiring appointment. But I'm not going to write him off or slag him off before he's even taken over.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=40525.msg1125989#msg1125989 date=1277421329]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40525.msg1125968#msg1125968 date=1277417696]
meh.

part one of the asset stripping accomplished.
[/quote]

what?

what's part one?

and then what's part two?
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Spidey is another one who has a place on the Board. Didn't yer know George?
 
Fuck me, let's see how he does before we slag him off FFS.

I'm hardly inspired by the appointment, but let's see how he gets on. Until such a time as he fucks up enough for me to remove my support I will support him fully.
 
FFS Terrier, you usually speak some sense, granted a little irascible most of the time, but I usually agree with most of what you say.
Other than Mourninho, which was a pipe dream, I can't really think of anyone else that would have been a wow factor choice.
Hodgson ticks many of the boxes that we need, maybe not all , but probably more than any other possibility.

As for "splitting" the fans, any fucking appointment was going to do that, everyone has a bleeding opinion, and it seems to me that the problem here is people are not willing to change opinions, based on facts and performance it seems to be viewed as a sign of weakness.
When Rafa arrived I got behind the man, I thought he was the right man for the job, and made judgments by what he did for Liverpool and how he did it, by season three I knew there was a problem, and I changed my mind.
As far as I am concerned Hodgson will be afforded the same rights, until I think he is doing more harm than good, or there is a better option, until that point I will stick with him.
The trouble now is, and this is where "splitting the fans" comes in, is that people who are particularly bigoted against the man, before he has even signed for us, like you for instance, will be picking holes in everything he does ad nauseum
So with my wise old mans hat on I say, shut the fuck up and give him a chance....thanks


regards
 
Well the SoS brigade will be pissed off, Kenny didn't want him & he's not Rafa, do they won't be able to see past that.
 
In fairness if the choice was between Kenny and Roy then you'd have to say they've made a mistake. However, I'm not nearly has opposed to Roy as some, and I refuse to be discouraged by his appointment.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40525.msg1125994#msg1125994 date=1277421680]

So with my wise old mans hat on I say, shut the fuck up and give him a chance....thanks


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Summed up nicely.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1126000#msg1126000 date=1277422359]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40525.msg1125994#msg1125994 date=1277421680]

So with my wise old mans hat on I say, shut the fuck up and give him a chance....thanks


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Summed up nicely.
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did I mention his Mrs is a Scouser, so for that alone, he is OK in my book 😉

regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40525.msg1126003#msg1126003 date=1277422585]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40525.msg1126000#msg1126000 date=1277422359]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40525.msg1125994#msg1125994 date=1277421680]

So with my wise old mans hat on I say, shut the fuck up and give him a chance....thanks


[/quote]

Summed up nicely.
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did I mention his Mrs is a Scouser, so for that alone, he is OK in my book 😉

regards
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Is she a red though?
 
Yes

knockout.jpg
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40525.msg1125994#msg1125994 date=1277421680]
FFS Terrier, you usually speak some sense, granted a little irascible most of the time, but I usually agree with most of what you say.
Other than Mourninho, which was a pipe dream, I can't really think of anyone else that would have been a wow factor choice.
Hodgson ticks many of the boxes that we need, maybe not all , but probably more than any other possibility.

As for "splitting" the fans, any fucking appointment was going to do that, everyone has a bleeding opinion, and it seems to me that the problem here is people are not willing to change opinions, based on facts and performance it seems to be viewed as a sign of weakness.
When Rafa arrived I got behind the man, I thought he was the right man for the job, and made judgments by what he did for Liverpool and how he did it, by season three I knew there was a problem, and I changed my mind.
As far as I am concerned Hodgson will be afforded the same rights, until I think he is doing more harm than good, or there is a better option, until that point I will stick with him.
The trouble now is, and this is where "splitting the fans" comes in, is that people who are particularly bigoted against the man, before he has even signed for us, like you for instance, will be picking holes in everything he does ad nauseum
So with my wise old mans hat on I say, shut the fuck up and give him a chance....thanks


regards

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Will give him a fair crack of the whip once the dust settles Vlad, but 'uninspiring' is the apt word here as I feel we could have done a lot better.

Funk me, I was ready and pretty excited for the return of the King up until around 5 days ago.
 
As has been said, Hodgson is probably a safe appointment. I also think that the main reason he's welcomed by some is vbecause he's English and knows the Premier League, though his track record clearly doesnt bear that out.

I'd much rather the club gambled on someone younger and hungrier.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=40525.msg1125975#msg1125975 date=1277419605]
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=40525.msg1125974#msg1125974 date=1277419494]
Liverpool set to announce Roy Hodgson as manager


Roy Hodgson Liverpool are confident of bringing Roy Hodgson to Liverpool.

Liverpool expect to finalise the appointment of Roy Hodgson as the club's new manager following his return from South Africa today. The Fulham manager, who has been commenting at the World Cup for the BBC, has been the frontrunner for the Liverpool job since Rafael Benítez left Anfield this month and could be confirmed as the Spaniard's successor within days.

Liverpool have considered several candidates for the position, including the former Real Madrid and Villarreal coach Manuel Pellegrini, but Kenny Dalglish, the club legend asked to conduct the managerial search alongside the managing director, Christian Purslow, is not in the running.

Anfield officials are confident of securing a deal with Hodgson now that he has returned from South Africa and with his prospects of being offered the chance to succeed Fabio Capello as England manager diminished by the national team's World Cup victory over Slovenia.

It is understood the make-up of Hodgson's backroom staff is one of the issues to be resolved prior to his appointment, with the 62-year-old keen to bring the Fulham assistant manager, Mike Kelly, with him to Merseyside.

While Liverpool await the arrival of their next manager, Yossi Benayoun is close to leaving Anfield for Chelsea after the two clubs agreed a £5m fee for the Israel international.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/24/liverpool-roy-hodgson-manager
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That makes me sick. There is very little chance of getting as good a player in for 5M
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How much will we have to pay for Honda?
 
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=40525.msg1125942#msg1125942 date=1277414345]
Is it just me or are there posters on this site trying to convince themselves that appointing Hodgson is OK simply because he's not Benitez?

Weeks ago it was said we'd rue making a change under pressure and here we have the proof. This is choosing from the bargain bin.

If this goes ahead it'll be a second class appointment for a first class job. As with any Liverpool Manager I'll support Hodgson but with little expectation other than looking forward to a dynamic, progressive Manager to be appointed sooner rather than later.
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Jexy, I know you love Rafa, but no one is suggesting or expecting this to be anything other than a short term option. The future of the clubs ownership is clouded to say the least, so we need some stability in the interim, someone who will keep it simple, get back to basics and have us playing as a team in a set way and as a unit.

Benitez was a lot of things, he had brilliance and to many was likeable, but he was flawed domestically and whatever the situation over money, he antagonised the problem with poor spending over the last couple of seasons (Keane, Dosenna, Riera, Cavieleri, Aquilani, etc).

We need someone to come in and work with what we have and, likely with the help of Kenny, to add sensible, stable playing staff to that, either for the future or to help get us through this period of uncertainty, much like the purpose of Roy himself as our manager.

He might not be the most glamorous of appointments, but we've already done all that and got no nearer to a title, so considering he hasn't even managed a game yet (or even been officially appointed), if and when he does become manager of LFC, he'll have my full backing.

Who knows, this might be as brief and rewarding as the appointment of Fagan 17 years ago.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40525.msg1126030#msg1126030 date=1277447751]
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=40525.msg1125942#msg1125942 date=1277414345]
Is it just me or are there posters on this site trying to convince themselves that appointing Hodgson is OK simply because he's not Benitez?

Weeks ago it was said we'd rue making a change under pressure and here we have the proof. This is choosing from the bargain bin.

If this goes ahead it'll be a second class appointment for a first class job. As with any Liverpool Manager I'll support Hodgson but with little expectation other than looking forward to a dynamic, progressive Manager to be appointed sooner rather than later.
[/quote]

Jexy, I know you love Rafa, but no one is suggesting or expecting this to be anything other than a short term option. The future of the clubs ownership is clouded to say the least, so we need some stability in the interim, someone who will keep it simple, get back to basics and have us playing as a team in a set way and as a unit.

Benitez was a lot of things, he had brilliance and to many was likeable, but he was flawed domestically and whatever the situation over money, he antagonised the problem with poor spending over the last couple of seasons (Keane, Dosenna, Riera, Cavieleri, Aquilani, etc).

We need someone to come in and work with what we have and, likely with the help of Kenny, to add sensible, stable playing staff to that, either for the future or to help get us through this period of uncertainty, much like the purpose of Roy himself as our manager.

He might not be the most glamorous of appointments, but we've already done all that and got no nearer to a title, so considering he hasn't even managed a game yet (or even been officially appointed), if and when he does become manager of LFC, he'll have my full backing.

Who knows, this might be as brief and rewarding as the appointment of Fagan 17 years ago.
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You couldn't be more wrong. Way before the end of the season I said that he should be replaced. Check.

Since then I've said that until new owners are in place we should appoint Dalglish because I think he would garner respect, boost the fans, remove the negative news vibe around the club with the media and because he'd be persuasive with the star players. Check.

I don't like or accept that the probable appointment of Hodgson is either 'safe' or progress. It smacks of choosing from whats left, it says 'any port in a storm'. I hate to feel this way but I genuinely do.

I'm usually optimistic but it's difficult to be enthusiastic right now. I hope Hodgson gets off to a flyer and proves me wrong.
 
Why does it smack of choosing from what's left? He was the first name mentioned, probably a good 4 weeks ago now, it seems he was identified as the right sort of option for us, given our current predicament.

Regards whether or not you thought Rafa should go, you've made it pretty obvious you didn't 'want' him to go and have always expressed that you're a stern backer of the guy. I liked him and wouldn't have been overly fraught either way, but his failings were there for all to see.

I'd sooner have Kenny for the reasons we've stated for a while now, but Hodgson in tandem with Kenny, in some capacity (as I'd imagine would be the case, given they're mates), is probably the next best thing. I'd rather that than gamble on another overpaid foreign manager who needs to acclimatise to the Premiership game.

Right now it's not about 5 year plans, it's about keeping what we've got and stability with a manager who is weathered in the English game, and in this case, the European game too.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40525.msg1126035#msg1126035 date=1277449622]
Why does it smack of choosing from what's left? He was the first name mentioned, probably a good 4 weeks ago now, it seems he was identified as the right sort of option for us, given our current predicament.

Regards whether or not you thought Rafa should go, you've made it pretty obvious you didn't 'want' him to go and have always expressed that you're a stern backer of the guy. I liked him and wouldn't have been overly fraught either way, but his failings were there for all to see.

I'd sooner have Kenny for the reasons we've stated for a while now, but Hodgson in tandem with Kenny, in some capacity (as I'd imagine would be the case, given they're mates), is probably the next best thing. I'd rather that than gamble on another overpaid foreign manager who needs to acclimatise to the Premiership game.

Right now it's not about 5 year plans, it's about keeping what we've got and stability with a manager who is weathered in the English game, and in this case, the European game too.
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It's not an overwhelming endorsement is it?

I hope that 'probably' and 'next best thing' are understating the excitement and charisma that Hodgson exudes and will ignite the club.

I may be slightly less optimistic than normal when a new Manager arrives but I'll wish him well.
 
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=40525.msg1126042#msg1126042 date=1277451445]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40525.msg1126035#msg1126035 date=1277449622]
Why does it smack of choosing from what's left? He was the first name mentioned, probably a good 4 weeks ago now, it seems he was identified as the right sort of option for us, given our current predicament.

Regards whether or not you thought Rafa should go, you've made it pretty obvious you didn't 'want' him to go and have always expressed that you're a stern backer of the guy. I liked him and wouldn't have been overly fraught either way, but his failings were there for all to see.

I'd sooner have Kenny for the reasons we've stated for a while now, but Hodgson in tandem with Kenny, in some capacity (as I'd imagine would be the case, given they're mates), is probably the next best thing. I'd rather that than gamble on another overpaid foreign manager who needs to acclimatise to the Premiership game.

Right now it's not about 5 year plans, it's about keeping what we've got and stability with a manager who is weathered in the English game, and in this case, the European game too.
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It's not an overwhelming endorsement is it?

I hope that 'probably' and 'next best thing' are understating the excitement and charisma that Hodgson exudes and will ignite the club.

I may be slightly less optimistic than normal when a new Manager arrives but I'll wish him well.
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No one said it was overwhelming Jexy, I don't think anyone is overly excited by it, but it seems a logical move.
 
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