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It wasn't meant as a slight, he just hasn't got the same level of warmth that people had with Houllier, Benitez and Dalglish. It'll come though.

Yeah i know you're not the type, have you ever seen those fan interviews he done last season? he done a couple of Q&As for all the fanzines, forums and local press, hes was pure class in them and really open, more open than ive seen any manager, he went way over time aswell, the press officer would remind him time was up but he wasn't having any of it, said he was really enjoying talking football with the fans, its thinking of things like this why i found those comments a bit strange.
 
To think people used to view Rodgers as all talk and little substance to back it up.
Words that have always been on tip of his tongue, such as 'technically and tactically' were put down as typical football jargon.


I know but he does go on about it. And he wants to explain the tactical reason behind a victory every time. Which can come across as blowing smoke up his own arse. Don't get me wrong, he's undoubtedly doing an amazing job, but I'd like to see a bit of a real person. I'm a big fan but I don't love him yet.
 
The guy knows what he's doing. He's got a team of not world beaters playing to their strengths.

Stevie going deeper, the front 3, coutinho in the hole 'he does what he wants' it's taken time but he's hit upon a very credible and formidable set-up. He also appears to a man that learns from his mistakes in regards to formations and 11's that don't work.

But, he also does not give up on his ideas too quickly. After Stevie's first couple of games in the deeper role, it would have been easy to change it back, but against Everton and today, Stevie has been immense (bar the penalty today). So, I agree that I admire his flexibility, but he also has sufficient spine and vision to stick to give his plans a chance to be successful.
 
I know but he does go on about it. And he wants to explain the tactical reason behind a victory every time. Which can come across as blowing smoke up his own arse. Don't get me wrong, he's undoubtedly doing an amazing job, but I'd like to see a bit of a real person. I'm a big fan but I don't love him yet.

He really doesn't. He was very modest in his post-match interviews after the game today and generally he puts on the onus on the players. Talk about nitpicking...if he wasn't open and honest people would say he's like a closed book...can't really win can he.

Besides, he can say and do what he wants if his teams play like on a regular basis.
 
I've really no issues with Rodgers. I don't understand this view of Rodgers presenting a bit of a false front.
 
And there should be no picking of nits on a wonderful day like this. MOTD looms and we should sit and bask in our sides brilliance today for it was mighty indeed.
 
I'm not nit picking. If he keeps doing what he's doing then he will be properly loved soon. I love watching his reaction to our goals. I loved Rafa but hated his refusal to express joy when we score.

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Liverpool dreaming again after thrashing of Arsenal and it's thanks to Brendan Rodgers's impact

Brendan Rodgers's revolution at Anfield continues as the Kop revels in Liverpool's 5-1 destruction of Arsenal - the club is heading in the right direction


By Henry Winter

At the end of the most memorable performance of his Liverpool tenure, Brendan Rodgers swivelled 360 degrees, waving to the supporters as he turned, and then walked briskly across to shake the hand of a numbed Arsène Wenger. In the background, the scoreline glowed: Liverpool 5 Arsenal 1. All around, Rodgers’ name resounded.

Here was confirmation, if any were required, that John W Henry appointed brilliantly in deciding to bring Rodgers from Swansea City in June 2012. To misquote Henry, what are they smoking at Anfield? Probably large cigars after this win over Arsenal. Henry, who had famously questioned Arsenal’s choice of tobacco after an insulting bid for Luis Suárez, was not present but the co-owner, Tom Werner, was here to admire Rodgers’ impact on the team.

Having acknowledged Wenger, Rodgers disappeared down the tunnel, off to the dressing-room which was soon shaking to loud music. Like the reverberating speakers, joy was unconstrained. The players did not know that the last time Liverpool put five past Arsenal, on April 18, 1964, they won the league, the first title under Bill Shankly. Rodgers’s players were simply revelling in the quality of the performance, having carried out the manager’s game-plan of pressing and pacy counter-attacking with real exuberance.

Along from the tunnel, Rodgers was soon eulogising individual performances and also attempting to suppress the incipient belief that Liverpool could push for the title, having just pulverised the leaders. Rodgers, a voice of calm amid the clamour, knows it will still take time, that the team remain a work in progress, however breathlessly exciting a work at times.

Liverpool have not won the league since 1990, and Arsenal’s visit will always stir painful memories of a lost trophy, when Michael Thomas strode through to score in 1989. It’s up for grabs now, the more ardent fans might think of the trophy. Not Rodgers. He’s still building and Chelsea and Manchester United remain a cut above.

But the fact remains that Liverpool are clearly heading in the right direction under Rodgers, looking a more fluid, intelligent and cohesive unit, and climbing up the table. As countless ears listened to Rodgers after the match, the eyes were surely drawn to the walls around him. These were adorned with black-and-white stills of past managerial masters, of men who set the tone for the club, who provided the benchmark that all successors must aspire to.

There were pictures of Shankly talking at Melwood as the players stretched on the grass, of Shankly addressing Kevin Keegan and company in the dressing-room at Anfield and Shankly in front of the Kop, arms outstretched, the Messiah of the Mersey.

Another sepia print captured Bob Paisley running, fully suited, in front of the Kop and another of Paisley standing at the top of the stairs by the “This Is Anfield” sign, holding the league trophy. Paisley was also depicted drinking tea with Kenny Dalglish, Ronnie Moran and Roy Evans in the boot room. There was Joe Fagan standing in a bus-shelter dug-out, Gerard Houllier with the Uefa Cup while nearby was Rafa Benítez with the Champions League.

It is this history that ensures Rodgers will never get carried away, why he will keep drilling them hard at Melwood. But his post-match words will have lifted his players further, making them even more of a force. Rodgers spoke of their “wonderful appetite”, praising all of them, lingering on how Philippe Coutinho has enhanced his game, “intercepting and blocking”, and of his belief that “I don’t think there’s a better winger in England than Raheem Sterling”. He enthused about the “selfless” contribution of Suárez, playing wide so Daniel Sturridge’s pace could be inflicted on Per Mertesacker.

His tactics worked. Four goals up within 19 minutes, Liverpool fans were chanting “there’s only one Brendan Rodgers”. He has transformed the team, individually and collectively. The work that Rodgers has done with players on set-pieces at Melwood was heralded here, bringing the first two goals: Steven Gerrard’s free-kick and then corner were both met by Martin Skrtel.

It is the tactical intelligence, the hunting of the ball in packs, the pace on the counter, the numbers in the middle and the relentless working for the cause, particularly the wide players like Suárez and Sterling tracking back, that is the Rodgers’s way. They forced mistakes, Jordan Henderson pressing Mesut Özil to win the ball for Liverpool’s third and then Coutinho picking off the German’s casual pass for the fourth.

Rodgers has revitalised Gerrard, fielding him in front of the back-four, sweeping skillfully, nicking the ball off Olivier Giroud after 32 minutes and Santi Cazorla after 38 minutes, also collecting possession from his defenders, dictating some of the moves. It suits the 33-year-old Gerrard, allowing him to unleash attacks with those 50-yard passes.

There is plenty of energy around Gerrard, youngsters like the tireless Henderson. Rodgers has shown faith in Henderson, calling the young Englishman into his office, offering him the opportunity of going to Fulham but promising him a chance if he shone in training. Henderson listened, learned, improved and is now established in Liverpool’s first team, utterly eclipsing Jack Wilshere in front of the assistant England coach, Ray Lewington.
Liverpool’s manager has drafted good players in, Coutinho delivering some sumptuous passes. Coutinho is light of frame but now relishing the physical, including a brief bout with Wilshere. Rodgers certainly recruited astutely with Sturridge, coaxing consistent performances from a striker who lost his way at Manchester City and Chelsea. Sturridge took his goal with real poise, outpacing Laurent Koscielny as he ran on to Coutinho’s pass, and shooting unerringly past Wojciech Szczesny for his 15 league goal this season, his best return in a season.

The Northern Irishman has encouraged fearlessness in his players, seen in Sturridge’s form and in the way John Flanagan closed down Özil, ignoring the vaunted reputation, the price-tag, simply wanting the ball more than the lazy German. Flanagan is young, occasionally raw, but benefiting from Rodgers’s man-management, showing the confidence to play a wonderful first-time pass to Gerrard after 50 minutes, and then again to Sterling after 63.

Rodgers has made Sterling more effective, improving his delivery and finishing. He seems to have made the winger accept responsibility on and off the pitch. His two goals were superb, credit to his composure and acceleration, but it was arguably a back-heel to Coutinho after 64 minutes that really drew most applause.

Rodgers kept wanting more, throwing his hands down in frustration as a move broke down just before the break when Flanagan failed to keep the ball in. He stood at the edge of his technical area, encouraging, instructing, occasionally waving to the Kop when they sang his name.

When removing a player from the fray, such as Sturridge, Rodgers embraced him, shook his hand and had a quiet word in his ear. It was almost paternal. Rodgers kept communicating while Wenger was even more silent than Stan Kroenke, the Arsenal owner making a rare visit to an away game.

While Wenger sat stunned, Rodgers was beckoning players over during breaks in play, continuing to coach and coax, such as when Henderson sprinted across for some new commands after 75 minutes. He listened, nodded, took a slug of water and got on with the game, with fulfilling his manager’s master-plan, a plan that has given Liverpool a future of genuine excitement and substance.
 
I posted a thread after the Spurs game stating he was our new shanks and I still believe it.
He'll win us the league
 
I never thought i'd see us play football this good. Fucking love brodge simply for making us so watchable

And so fecking sexy.

He's Irish, that's why he doesn't get the love. Yet.

And yes I am joking, just not like gene Hughes style with a big article before it.

Love the brodge, so glad he's not Martinez 🙂
 
Initially posted this in the Flano thread, but since there's a Rodgers thread now, I thought I'd cut and paste it over instead:

There's one thing (among others) I think we all need to give Rodgers credit for - nobody seems to be permanently in the doghouse from what we've seen so far. Over these two seasons, Carra, Skrtel, Flano, Henderson, Sterling, Enrique and Downing have all at one stage or another, either been benched, under-used, slated or marked for loans / transfers out. And yet, he still managed to wring improvements from them on the pitch after that (yes, even from Downing). That is some great man management skill there, though it of course also depends on the fight in the player. Alberto, Aspas, Suso, Borini and Assaidi should be encouraged that Rodgers will give them chances if they are determined enough to make their mark.
 
I think there are two things that count against him, firstly a lot of people didnt know much about him when joined and so the whole Being Liverpool debacle was a bad introduction. Secondly I think some people, particularly the older fans, wanted Kenny to continue and disliked Rodgers appointment as a result. That being said anybody who cant see he is doing a tremendous job clearly has their head up their arse because we are way ahead of where I thought we would be in the rebuilding process when he took over.
 
All eyes on the Fulham match now.

*bites nails*

Yeah its a good time to play them and we will be full of confidence after that win but 3 points would put us in a fantastic position given that Spurs Everton and Utd should all potentially drop points this week. We have turned in a couple of lacklustre performances recently in very winnable games, its important now to pick up some momentum and roll over the lower placed sides. If Arsenal beat Utd and we do the business against Fulham they would be buried in terms of challenging for 4th place
 
We should be wishing for Arsenal to draw against United. If we beat Fulham, we would increase our lead over United by a further 2 points, while reducing our gap to Arsenal to 3 points. That would be the perfect scenario for us.
 
There's no such thing as tactics apparently, so I'm not sure why you're all giving him so much credit.
 
There's no such thing as tactics apparently, so I'm not sure why you're all giving him so much credit.
Still think Lucas warrants a place in our side considering it's taken Stevie all of 3 games to get to grips with the position?
 
There's no such thing as tactics apparently, so I'm not sure why you're all giving him so much credit.

Quite. It's a bit like defensive minded fullbacks having no place in the modern game, which would explain why we look so much more balanced and solid at the back of late.

And oh look, such is it's negative influence, we just put FIVE past Arsenal and FOUR past Everton.
 
Quite. It's a bit like defensive minded fullbacks having no place in the modern game, which would explain why we look so much more balanced and solid at the back of late. Oh.

They're not playing like 'defensive' fullbacks Mark. They're instructed to overlap at all times, and they do. Thus why Gerrard sits between the centre backs.
 
They're not playing like 'defensive' fullbacks Mark. They're instructed to overlap at all times, and they do. Thus why Gerrard sits between the centre backs.

Yeah, but they can defend and it's not like they're technically superior to the likes of Johnson and Enrique, is it?

When we have to defend they're in position, tucking in and keeping the back line tight, regardless of instruction when we're on the offensive, something super Glen Johnson was never, ever capable of.
 
Be pedantic about the wording or whatever, first and foremost they can both defend, and it's had zero negative impact on our offensive play, which is what I said weeks ago and months ago, before being shot down with condescending jarg about modern football.
 
No such things as tactics? Managers don't win you games? Defenders with no place in the game ? What is this madness!?
 
Both Flanno and Cissokho are better defensively than attacking, it shows both in balance and how the defence operate as a unit.

Cissokho is awful going forward though and we are hampered by that when we play teams that let us control the ball for most of the game.
 
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