To be fair to Johnson, he wasn't really slagging Rodgers off in that interview, although they were clearly trying to encourage him to do so. He was quite interesting, actually, because he noted how he alone had worked with Rodgers back in his Chelsea days. He said back then Rodgers was a really excellent character, but someone who studied Mourinho obsessively and absorbed everything he did like a sponge. So when he came to Liverpool, Johnson said he'd be quite startled when Rodgers would copy whole chunks of sessions Mourinho did while saying exactly the same things as Mourinho did. Johnson didn't sneer about it, he just said it was quite disorientating for him, having known him before, to see him now almost morph into a different and much more self-conscious character.