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Rafa confirmed as new Chelsea boss
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Actually, subtlety is something that the vast majority certainly do NOT have...
Are you really comparing Blackburn and our history with them, to Chelsea and our history with them (not to mention Rafa's history with them)? Really?
I actually didn't lose any respect for him over this move... My opinion of him hasn't changed one jot as a result of this past week.
My issue in this thread is simply the many posters who STILL 'support' - as opposed to respect - this man, who now manages Chelsea, and therefore his success would mean their success, and yet they still openly wish for it, while simultaniously many are crucifying our current manager after less than six months in charge here, at OUR club.
My issue in this thread is simply the many posters who STILL 'support' - as opposed to respect - this man, who now manages Chelsea, and therefore his success would mean their success, and yet they still openly wish for it, while simultaniously many are crucifying our current manager after less than six months in charge here, at OUR club.
When someone's so associated with one club it surely always hurts in a sentimental way when they seem to be getting on with their life elsewhere. When Kenny went to Blackburn it frustrated me more than anything because he'd been so adamant he wouldn't be able to manage at LFC if they'd given him the break they suggested, and then, sure enough, he did come back refreshed, but at Blackburn. That title could have been ours. Then again, he'd gone through so much for the club you couldn't really blame him for the decisions he'd made.
Many people don't remember now but after Shanks realised belatedly he'd retired too early he, too, started advising other clubs, and even scouted for the mancs (or rather his old mate Matt Busby) for a while when Steve Coppell was taken there under the noses of LFC. Only the fans lack the option of trying other clubs.
Many people don't remember now but after Shanks realised belatedly he'd retired too early he, too, started advising other clubs, and even scouted for the mancs (or rather his old mate Matt Busby) for a while when Steve Coppell was taken there under the noses of LFC. Only the fans lack the option of trying other clubs.
"It's a shop window" for who ?
So.. Do you want Chelsea to win just to ram down their (the fans) stupid troaths that they now have a good manager which They hate, or do you want them to loose and give them right (which that abysmal behaviour doesn't deserve)?
That is something that really hurts to the point of suicide when such a thought should be entertained. Allah forbid !!!
*snorts drink all over keyboard*
Come on Ross - an unemployed Spanish mulitimillionaire who could live anywhere he likes but choses to live on the Wirral - to say he doesn't like the area or feels he has unfinished business at LFC is unlikely isn't it. But it was obvious that he was not wanted when Rodgers was appointed.
However, he has to be a bit deranged or has the hide of an elephant to go to CFC at the moment particularly after the opprobrium he encountered when he was mooted to get the job when AVB was sacked. It is a lose lose lose job and even if successful he will never win over the supporters. What is really strange is why he didn't angle for the QPR job where he would have had a non interfering loaded chairman, an underachieving squad where he could make a difference and very low expectations where mid table mediocrity would be lauded as a fantastic achievement. Maybe he sees a club like QPR beneath him which is just plain mad.
Cor...we used to DREAM of living on the Wirral. Would've been a palace to us!
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Deal?
Mediawatch, and indeed most at F365, are not terribly big fans of booing. We particularly disapprove of the booing of Rafa Benitez by Chelsea fans before he even had a chance to take charge of a game.
We thought that the request for an apology would eventually come, but we were quite surprised from whom said request did arrive.
"I think (an apology) would help for some fans," said chair of the Chelsea Supporters' Group Trizia Fiorellino.
Okay, Mediawatch isn't technically authorised to negotiate on behalf of Rafa Benitez, but how about we propose a deal - when Chelsea fans apologise for singing 'Anton Ferdinand, you know what you are', then Rafa will apologise for the awfully mean things he said a few years ago.
Deal?
Also, an underrated part of Ms Fiorellino's statement came in the comparison between Rafa and another man who has paused in the little seat next to Roman Abramovich:
"He's said he was trying to defend his club at the time but (then Chelsea boss Jose) Mourinho was the master of that and I don't think he ever directly ridiculed supporters of another club."
Ah yes, Jose Mourinho. King of dignity, and definitely not management's most successful wind-up merchant. Definitely not. Oh no. (taken from f365.com)
Deal?
Mediawatch, and indeed most at F365, are not terribly big fans of booing. We particularly disapprove of the booing of Rafa Benitez by Chelsea fans before he even had a chance to take charge of a game.
We thought that the request for an apology would eventually come, but we were quite surprised from whom said request did arrive.
"I think (an apology) would help for some fans," said chair of the Chelsea Supporters' Group Trizia Fiorellino.
Okay, Mediawatch isn't technically authorised to negotiate on behalf of Rafa Benitez, but how about we propose a deal - when Chelsea fans apologise for singing 'Anton Ferdinand, you know what you are', then Rafa will apologise for the awfully mean things he said a few years ago.
Deal?
Also, an underrated part of Ms Fiorellino's statement came in the comparison between Rafa and another man who has paused in the little seat next to Roman Abramovich:
"He's said he was trying to defend his club at the time but (then Chelsea boss Jose) Mourinho was the master of that and I don't think he ever directly ridiculed supporters of another club."
Ah yes, Jose Mourinho. King of dignity, and definitely not management's most successful wind-up merchant. Definitely not. Oh no. (taken from f365.com)
I thought the general consensus on here was move the fuck on Rafa. Now he's moved on and theres a 23 page post about it.
I just hope we have another situation soon where there's a debate to be had about whether the trophies that the manager won, and the success that the team enjoyed under him, is really success or not, because we've been without the enjoyment of that argument since he's been gone.
I have a lot of respect for Rafa while being aware of his faults. I want him to be successful, but don't want Chelsea to be successful. I would like for Chelsea fans to be proven wrong, but I reiterate, I don't want them to have success. It's all very complicated, until I realize it isn't and that you can have conflicting motivations. I am large and I have multitudes.
I just hope we have another situation soon where there's a debate to be had about whether the trophies that the manager won, and the success that the team enjoyed under him, is really success or not, because we've been without the enjoyment of that argument since he's been gone.
I have a lot of respect for Rafa while being aware of his faults. I want him to be successful, but don't want Chelsea to be successful. I would like for Chelsea fans to be proven wrong, but I reiterate, I don't want them to have success. It's all very complicated, until I realize it isn't and that you can have conflicting motivations. I am large and I have multitudes.
23 pages summed up pretty well there. I wonder what Steve Cohen is thinking now?
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To be fair to Benitez, he's doing a sterling job of splitting that odious club in two just by being there.
Fans not sure whether they want their team to lose to get rid of him, fans booing instead of getting behind the team. Its fucking aces and whilst I never thought or wanted him to go there, he's doing a good job on this front alone. And that's without even speaking!
Fans not sure whether they want their team to lose to get rid of him, fans booing instead of getting behind the team. Its fucking aces and whilst I never thought or wanted him to go there, he's doing a good job on this front alone. And that's without even speaking!
That's not implausible, but in typical Rafa style he went and blew it - if that was the plan - immediately by telling the press that the futures of Lampard and Cole were already sorted before he arrived.
True, but I don't think that most people are having a go at him simply for going to Chelsea.
He was an unemployed football manager, so who can really blame him for taking a big job when it was offered?
Much of the thread has been around people claiming that they wish Benitez well at Chelsea. That is a different matter. I am pleased for him that he has a new job. I want him to fail at his new job. Not because I don't like him or anything, but because he is now the manager of a team that I don't like.
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