Rafa confirmed as new Chelsea boss

[moron]

Unfortunately - I am one of those who wants him to do really well (clearly that does not mean beat us when we play them - I hope we fuck him and his blue shit team over) - but I cannot seperate Rafa from LFC in my head and I suspect I am not alone amongst LFC fans. That does not imply that Rafa is bigger than LFC, its just that I have this feeling that one day he will be back with us.

 

[Sunny]

Fuck him. Thanks for the silverware but he's sold his soul and I've lost some respect for him.

 

[gene hughes]

Well, I have lost some respect for him. I think taking that job looks far more pathetic and desperate than going to a club with less money and pothibilities.

I wish him all the bad luck in the world while he's there.

 

[gene hughes]

Spooky. Hadn't seen your post Sunny when I wrote mine.

 

[Vlads Quiff]

I hated Chelsea before he went there, and this has only served to deepen said hatred for some reason, (no that I particularly disliked Rafa) thanks Raf for giving me more cause.
Part of this thinking about it is that some people, not particularly on here, get confused as to if they support Liverpool or Rafa, and if he did go there and be a success (which I think highly unlikely) we would never hear the end of it, Rafa this Rafa that, the bottomless pit of money would of course be nothing to do with it.

 

[moron]

Actually the contract he has signed is to the end of the season with a cluase to extend for the whole of next season - and that depends on wether Abramofuck gets the manager he really wants in Pep. Rafa knows this, and the deal as it stands was partially arranged when there was some contact after AVB had departed last season.

 

[Vlads Quiff]

Abramovitch and Rafa will not be able to manage any longer than the end of the season together - #trufacts

 

[moron]

Abramovitch and Rafa will not be able to manage any longer than the end of the season together - #trufacts

I know and agree 100% - there is not much difference in style between what Jose did and what Rafa did for us. Abramovitch wants a Barcalona type team - he is defintely not going to get that from Rafa. The best he can expect is possible cup victories, perhaps the league, but more importantly he is hoping that Rafa does whats necessary to get Torres working properly. What people dont' seem to realize is that managers goto Chelsea becuase even if they get sacked and leave with their reputations f*cked - they leave with a huge cash payout that makes it unecessary for them to work ever again and still have that same lifestyle. It is reported that Jose when sacked left with a cool £18M pounds.

 

[hmmmmm1]

That Valencia team Rafa managed with Aimer were pretty good to watch, even if it was a few years ago.

 

[Whaddapie]

I can't feel sympathy for Rafa, at all.

I was in the pub today and most people were going on about wanting Rafa to do well. I was being kinda quiet, I was all confused, I didn't get what they meant. Every time Chelsea ever play a football match I want them to get beat. If they play Man United I hope there's a terror attack or natural disaster. Rafa is a part of that now. Fuck him and his shithole club.

Bingo.

 

[IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts]

That Valencia team Rafa managed with Aimer were pretty good to watch, even if it was a few years ago.

Did you watch many of their games or just the ones where they beat Liverpool?
Cause I'm pretty sure Figo said something about one of the reasons he chose Inter over Liverpool was because Rafa's Valencia had a reputation for playing boring football.

 

[gene hughes]

I'm beginning to think Rafa is one of those people who has had success in life but has mistakenly attributed that success to the wrong things.

 

[Richey]

What people dont' seem to realize is that managers goto Chelsea becuase even if they get sacked and leave with their reputations f*cked - they leave with a huge cash payout that makes it unecessary for them to work ever again and still have that same lifestyle. It is reported that Jose when sacked left with a cool £18M pounds.

But if he gets the boot at the end of the season he won't get paid anything will he, because his contract will have expired?

In any case, I doubt Benitez really needs to work again anyway. He will have had decent enough payouts from the other jobs he was fired from.

If Benitez wants to be at Chelsea then that is up to him but hopefully he will fail miserably, just as I hope that every Chelsea manager fails miserably.

 

[Richey]

Just say if Benitez actually does pretty well at Chelsea and wins a few trophies, and then when Ferguson finally retires/dies, he gets offered the United job. Would those Liverpool fans who are wishing him well now continue to wish him well if he was managing United?

 

[DHSC]

I hope Rafa fails and Chelsea fails to qualify for anything.

 

[Whaddapie]

Certain people here want to hang Brendan Rodgers from the Liver Building already - Practically EVERYTHING he's done is wrong and he's a massive bellend, apparently.

Others have taken to attacking our skipper and one off our all-time greats with tremendous relish... Lazy, Moany, A horrible cunt, apparently.

But Rafa is getting unwavering support from his legion of fans, despite the fact that he now manages THAT shower of cunts. "Hope he does well there" is the cry... He is the manager of fucking Chelsea now. I hope that he loses every single game he's in charge of with them. Except the one he has left against the scum.

Unbelievable.

Or not, actually. Sad.

 

[Farkmaster]

Knock that strawman down if it makes you feel good, but the vast majority of people have a bit more subtlety to their view of things.

 

[Judge Jules]

It's an uncomfortable feeling finding myself on the opposite side of a division of opinion from a number of people I like and respect, but I just do not see why it's so difficult for some fellow posters to get this. Here's the ABC of it:

(a) I will always be grateful to Rafa for the good things he did while in charge of LFC, including the single greatest experience of my half-century of supporting this club;

(b) I do NOT like Chelsea Football Club or want to see them succeed, but I will never allow that to outweigh my gratitude to their current (temporary) manager for the better part of what he did while he was in charge of my club;

(c) Rafa would have crawled to Anfield on his back if LFC had been willing to re-employ him, but LFC has made it painfully obvious that's that's not going to happen, so frankly I don't feel well placed to criticise him for taking another highly paid, high-profile job.

 

[Holle]

What a strange interview afterwards with that ghastly Geoff Shreeves. Was he trying to sneeze or something? And Shreeves wouldn't stop asking him 'What did you think about that terrible reception?' Rafa's mad to work at that place.

Nah, I think he wanted to vomit.

Just like me.

 

[juniormember]

It's an uncomfortable feeling finding myself on the opposite side of a division of opinion from a number of people I like and respect, but I just do not see why it's so difficult for some fellow posters to get this. Here's the ABC of it:

(a) I will always be grateful to Rafa for the good things he did while in charge of LFC, including the single greatest experience of my half-century of supporting this club;

(b) I do NOT like Chelsea Football Club or want to see them succeed, but I will never allow that to outweigh my gratitude to their current (temporary) manager for the better part of what he did while he was in charge of my club;

(c) Rafa would have crawled to Anfield on his back if LFC had been willing to re-employ him, but LFC has made it painfully obvious that's that's not going to happen, so frankly I don't feel well placed to criticise him for taking another highly paid, high-profile job.

I want to like this post multiple times.

 

[Hyena]

Of course no one supports Chelsea (though in a 2-way race between them and Man Utd, Arsenal or Spurs I DO want them to win. Apologies if that makes me a cunt)

All the snide remarks about him "losing his soul" or "taking the devil's coin" are a bit unnecessary though.

Was he supposed to turn them down?

 

[Molbystwin]

Firstly lots of people on here wanted Rafa binned anyway so why shoukd the man give a fuck what your hate driven opinions are. Secondly he would definitely taken the LFC job if we had offered it to him but we didnt so what exactly is he supposed to do? Lastly if it comes down to Rafa winning the league with Chelsea or Fergie scratching another notch onto his bronze fucking statue then....

I think it's possible to hate Chelsea but not Rafa, it's not his fault the club were only playing at being one of the big teams. He did very very well for us, if there was some way he could extricate himself with reputation enhanced while at the same time not draping more glory on them shower of cunts thats what i want.... sadly that probably means Chelsea stop Fergie.

 

[Sunny]

‘Chelsea is a big club with fantastic players, every manager wants to coach a such a big team,’ said the Spaniard. ‘But I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what. For me there is only club in England, and that’s Liverpool.’

 

[Woland]

He wasn't supposed to do anything. He can do what he wants.

I don't get the cult of Rafa at all. I was over him the day he left, he was an employee. A good one, but so what... Some people saw him as more than that, to them he's the one that got away, a lost love. They still adore him. So to find out he's now managing Chelsea is kinda like finding out your ex is going out with Piers Morgan. That's gotta hurt.

 

[refugee]

In any case, I doubt Benitez really needs to work again anyway. He will have had decent enough payouts from the other jobs he was fired from.

He doesn't from a purely financial point of view, but two years out is a long time if he wants to remain in football (which he obviously does)

 

[Richey]

(c) Rafa would have crawled to Anfield on his back if LFC had been willing to re-employ him, but LFC has made it painfully obvious that's that's not going to happen, so frankly I don't feel well placed to criticise him for taking another highly paid, high-profile job.

Can't speak for others, but I am not so sure that people are criticising him as such for taking the job. I would certainly not do so. He is a football manager, and a big club offered him the job as manager. Nothing wrong with that.

The criticism, I believe, is more for the idea that people are - even vaguely - supporting Chelsea merely because Benitez is there. That, for me, is absurd.

Just to pick up the point about how he would have come back to Anfield given half a chance, which makes him slightly less open to criticism, did this also not apply to Michael Owen when he left Madrid? Surely then he wanted to come back to Liverpool too? Don't recall anyone wishing him well. And again, would this A, B and C have applied had Benitez gone to United rather than Chelsea?

 

[Rosco]

Of course no one supports Chelsea (though in a 2-way race between them and Man Utd, Arsenal or Spurs I DO want them to win. Apologies if that makes me a cunt)

All the snide remarks about him "losing his soul" or "taking the devil's coin" are a bit unnecessary though.

Was he supposed to turn them down?

People think that give his love for the club, the city, and all the things he said - that he wouldn't go there.

But they're starting to see it was pretty much just like Torres' love for the club. A PR sham.

 

[peterhague]

Just say if Benitez actually does pretty well at Chelsea and wins a few trophies, and then when Ferguson finally retires/dies, he gets offered the United job. Would those Liverpool fans who are wishing him well now continue to wish him well if he was managing United?

Personally no, because I don't dislike Chelsea whereas I hate United.

 

[Sunny]

I'm not really arsed what he does to be honest but there's no way I'll wish him well at Chelsea.

 

[Judge Jules]

Can't speak for others, but I am not so sure that people are criticising him as such for taking the job. I would certainly not do so. He is a football manager, and a big club offered him the job as manager. Nothing wrong with that.

The criticism, I believe, is more for the idea that people are - even vaguely - supporting Chelsea merely because Benitez is there. That, for me, is absurd.

Just to pick up the point about how he would have come back to Anfield given half a chance, which makes him slightly less open to criticism, did this also not apply to Michael Owen when he left Madrid? Surely then he wanted to come back to Liverpool too? Don't recall anyone wishing him well. And again, would this A, B and C have applied had Benitez gone to United rather than Chelsea?

Owen's a different case. His games-playing over the "will he/won't he leave" saga in the first place helped to ensure we got a fair bit less than he was worth from Real Madrid for him. It's true that those running the club at the time were culpable in allowing the situation to get that far, but IMO that in no way excuses Owen's own conduct.

Would the same arguments have applied if Rafa had gone to United? IMO that's so unlikely, for a variety of reasons, that it's impossible to answer with certainty unless and until it actually happens. Provisionally, though, my answer would be: no if he'd gone straight there, yes if he'd managed someone else in the meantime.