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Rafa backs Lucas (Again)

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The boss said: "Lucas is a player with experience but he's still young. I think you could see today, including the experts on TV, that he's a very good player. Hopefully now they won't see him as a target because he's a very good lad, a good professional and a very good player."

Well said that man.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35358.msg928806#msg928806 date=1250757380]
The boss said: "Lucas is a player with experience but he's still young. I think you could see today, including the experts on SCM, that he's a very good player. Hopefully now they won't see him as a target because he's a very good lad, a good professional and a very good player."

Well said that man.
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The question is, will Purple Aqui be able to get in the side ahead of Lucas ?
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35358.msg928806#msg928806 date=1250757380]
The boss said: "Lucas is a player with experience but he's still young. I think you could see today, including the experts on TV, that he's a very good player. Hopefully now they won't see him as a target because he's a very good lad, a good professional and a very good player."

Well said that man.
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Rafa having a dig at those TV experts?
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35358.msg928810#msg928810 date=1250757479]
The question is, will Purple Aqui be able to get in the side ahead of Lucas ?
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Rafa might plan to start Aquilani and Lucas.
 
The criticism he's drawn in the past has been fair, and again I don't think he wasn't tested last night; Stoke backed off and let us piss around in their half nearly all game long.

But he has improved his game over the summer and therefore deserves a some credit. I've certainly reclaimed some hope for him, but there's a long way to go and there's obviously a lot tougher tests to come. The good thing is, now he's getting stuck in, the fans will now be able to support him more vocally and grant him more patience - something any young player needs.
 
These 8 weeks will be a blessing for Lucas, he'll get to play back to back games, the improvements already clear, if he could add just a little more going forward, he'd be a great player for us.
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=35358.msg928828#msg928828 date=1250758604]
These 8 weeks will be a blessing for Lucas, he'll get to play back to back games, the improvements already clear, if he could add just a little more going forward, he'd be a great player for us.
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The thing is, he manages to get in the box a few times per game, something Alonso didn't do. So I do have hopes he'll get a few goals this season.
 
Aquilani and Lucas will probably start home games against lesser opponents...
 
I didn't think our midfield controlled the game as well as it could have whilst the game was still competitive - Stoke's tactics seemed to be working to some degree and they were winning a lot of free kicks from possession they should never have had.

It's in those kind of periods that we need to see Lucas impose himself on the game more often. It's all very well running around and putting in a few challenges and playing keep ball when we're cruising, but we need more than that - as we saw against Spurs. If Masher is going to be the one running around tackling people, we need someone with a bit more calm who can put his foot on the ball and get us going.

What I did like about Lucas last night was that some of his passing was quite incisive and certainly more adventurous than in the past. I'd like to see him build on that, if it's within his capabilities to do so.

For example, there was one instance where Lucas had the ball with time and space about 40-50 yards out from goal and there was an opportunity to play it to a free'ish man on the left near the edge of the box, which would've given us a great chance to get through on goal but Lucas played it back deeper into midfield. In fairness, it wasn't the easiest of balls to play but it's the sort of thing that we've looked to Alonso for in the past and hopefully Aquilani in the future but if Lucas wants to genuinely man up, he'll have to raise his game to that level also.
 
would be good for lucas to come good if for no other reason than for bren to be emphatically wrong about a player for once.
 
check this, Rafa is refering to Redknapp as the pundit, has he been having a go?

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To many, it is already far, far too late. Liverpool’s flat performance at White Hart Lane, it seems, has left them with just 37 games to claw back an all but unbridgeable three-point deficit on all their main rivals and nigh on extinguished their hopes of winning the league.

Rafa Benitez should not have sold Xabi Alonso, his only creative midfielder. Instead of wasting £40 million on Glen Johnson and Alberto Aquilani, he should have bolstered his squad, in case injury hits Fernando Torres or Steven Gerrard. Should that happen, Liverpool would struggle to qualify for the UEFA Cup, let alone the Champions League. All, after one game, facts.

It is doomsday punditry of the worst kind, and Benitez clearly has little time for it. Asked yesterday if he thought the critics had a point, the Spaniard genially enquired as to who the prime culprits were. Jamie Redknapp, for one, came the reply. A wry smile, a Hispanic shrug of the shoulders. “It’s easy to criticise on television,†he said. “They’ve never managed a team that’s lost a game.â€

It is unfair to single out Redknapp, but he is certainly one of the worst offenders of a breed of pundits who now litter our TV screens, airwaves, websites and newspapers, using the word “literally†when they mean “figuratively,†jerking their knees under both definitions and proving anything they want with facts.

The problem with such an approach is that it relies upon leaving out other facts. Facts like Alonso wanting to leave, informing Benitez that he would be returning home in May and going so far as handing in a formal transfer request in three months later.

Contrary to Tony Gale’s incredible assertion during the match at White Hart Lane that “Benitez never fancied Alonso,†not only did the Liverpool manager buy the Basque and turn him into one of the best midfielders in the world, he also sought to keep him until it became clear his appeals were falling on deaf ears.

Or the fact that Benitez has been roundly criticised for five years for buying squad players, yet the minute he chooses to add two thoroughbred options to his squad, he is informed he needed quantity rather than quality. Given the financial constraints placed upon his transfer activity by Liverpool’s owners – Benitez is operating a barter economy in a capitalist world, spending only what he raises – quality in quantity was simply not an option.

That, of course, has given free rein to critics wishing to advance that most specious of arguments when it comes to Benitez’s side, the over-reliance on Torres and Gerrard. Leaving aside the irony that, if it were true, it therefore contradicts the criticism of selling Alonso, it is also bunkum.

Yes, Liverpool are weaker without their two best players. But taking Cesc Fabregas and Robin Van Persie out of Arsenal’s side would have much the same effect. Even Chelsea and Manchester United would find life harder without Frank Lampard, Didier Drogba, Wayne Rooney and Rio Ferdinand.

Besides which, Liverpool finished second last season, just four points off United, in a season when Torres and Gerrard only started 14 league games together. Still, you can prove anything with facts.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/...pool-loss-blown-out-of-proportion-its-a-fact/
 
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It is unfair to single out Redknapp[/quote]

No it isn't. Nice bloke, but a downright embarrassment as a pundit. I love it when Souey sits next to him, because Souey always has an expression torn between contempt and pity as Redders jabbers on about body language and other such nonsense.
 
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[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=35358.msg928905#msg928905 date=1250762702]
It is unfair to single out Redknapp[/quote]

No it isn't. Nice bloke, but a downright embarrassment as a pundit. I love it when Souey sits next to him, because Souey always has an expression torn between contempt and pity as Redders jabbers on about body language and other such nonsense.
[/quote]He really does doesnt he.
 
To many, it is already far, far too late. Liverpool’s flat performance at White Hart Lane, it seems, has left them with just 37 games to claw back an all but unbridgeable three-point deficit on all their main rivals and nigh on extinguished their hopes of winning the league

HAHAHA so fucking true.
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=35358.msg928828#msg928828 date=1250758604]
These 8 weeks will be a blessing for Lucas, he'll get to play back to back games, the improvements already clear, if he could add just a little more going forward, he'd be a great player for us.
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Totally agree, he looks better going forward already. He can be frustrating but if he was English and we hadn't paid 6mil we'd all love him
 
rafa's getting better and better at this bitching lark. first the comments about the 'very important' confederations cup, then the absolutely brilliant glasses from pocket stunt re phil dowd's performance, and now onto the pundits.

the guy's a legend.
 
I've suggested this before, expecting a roasting that never came,s o i'm gonna suggest it again:

Lucas for dead balls?

I can't remember which game it was in, but last season when Stevie was out Lucas was on the free kicks and corners, and did pretty well by all accounts.

I'd like to see him given a try if he's gonna be starting all the time - certainly if the free kicks are not within scoring range
 
Gerrard's corners are really bloody useless.

But I'm not certain Lucas' are any better; it seemed the same out-swinging corner cleared by the first defender to me.
 
The thing is, it's been bloody obvious to everyone for a couple of years (at least) now - Stevie's corners are pretty woeful, and he'd be a much bigger threat actually in the box.

So WTF?
 
[quote author=singlerider link=topic=35358.msg928966#msg928966 date=1250766381]
I've suggested this before, expecting a roasting that never came,s o i'm gonna suggest it again:

Lucas for dead balls?

I can't remember which game it was in, but last season when Stevie was out Lucas was on the free kicks and corners, and did pretty well by all accounts.

I'd like to see him given a try if he's gonna be starting all the time - certainly if the free kicks are not within scoring range
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I was thrilled to see him taking corners last night. Especially the ones he took while Stevie was still on the field.
 
He got a good reception from the crowd too in recognition of his general performance.

His corners werent much better tho. Sti. its best to have Gerrard in the middle rather than him so I guess if anything, we're better off even if the corners arent any more use.
 
It kind of looked like he was aiming for a particular person everytime he took a corner.

Although, I was half asleep, so maybe I was just imagining it 😛

Either way I didn't think they were too bad and I'd much rather have him taking them with Gerrard attacking the ball in the box.
 
until he actually proves otherwise on the pitch lucas is at best average.

back him all u want rafa but i bet if someone came in with a bid for the same of what we paid for him we'd unload him straight away - well we would if we got to spend the transfer money
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=35358.msg929055#msg929055 date=1250772774]
until he actually proves otherwise on the pitch lucas is at best average.

back him all u want rafa but i bet if someone came in with a bid for the same of what we paid for him we'd unload him straight away - well we would if we got to spend the transfer money
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Even though rafa has said he's turned away interest in the past from 'big european clubs'?

Even though interest from brazil was rebuffed this summer and rafa has gone out of his way to constantly back the player and praise both his attitude and ability?
 
Id just like to remind everyone complaining about our corners that Johnson's goal came as a result of a Gerrard corner last night. Nows maybe not the time folks. I might be wrong but i think Stevie took it, Dirk headed it, keeper saved and Glen smashed it in. Im off to watch highlights to check.
 
[quote author=singlerider link=topic=35358.msg928971#msg928971 date=1250766679]
The thing is, it's been bloody obvious to everyone for a couple of years (at least) now - Stevie's corners are pretty woeful, and he'd be a much bigger threat actually in the box.

So WTF?
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Isn't Aquilani quite good at dead balls? I hope he'll take over from Gerrard when fit. I too would like someone else to take the corners already but it isn't going to happen, is it?
 
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[quote author=rage link=topic=35358.msg929055#msg929055 date=1250772774]
until he actually proves otherwise on the pitch lucas is at best average.

back him all u want rafa but i bet if someone came in with a bid for the same of what we paid for him we'd unload him straight away - well we would if we got to spend the transfer money
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Even though rafa has said he's turned away interest in the past from 'big european clubs'?

Even though interest from brazil was rebuffed this summer and rafa has gone out of his way to constantly back the player and praise both his attitude and ability?
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go on which big european clubs have been in for him never mind for the 6 or 7 million we paid for him? as for the interest from brazil what 5 figure sum were they offering do you think? maybe they included a crate ot two of coffee beans as well.
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=35358.msg929126#msg929126 date=1250779431]
[quote author=rage link=topic=35358.msg929055#msg929055 date=1250772774]
until he actually proves otherwise on the pitch lucas is at best average.

back him all u want rafa but i bet if someone came in with a bid for the same of what we paid for him we'd unload him straight away - well we would if we got to spend the transfer money
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Even though rafa has said he's turned away interest in the past from 'big european clubs'?

Even though interest from brazil was rebuffed this summer and rafa has gone out of his way to constantly back the player and praise both his attitude and ability?
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go on which big european clubs have been in for him never mind for the 6 or 7 million we paid for him? as for the interest from brazil what 5 figure sum were they offering do you think? maybe they included a crate ot two of coffee beans as well.
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Well if were gonna play it that way, PROVE Benitez is prepared to cash in on him, without bending your argument to suit your fucked up agenda, as per.
 
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