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AS has been said. Freeze it the moment Naingolan plays the long pass - Lovren is 7-8m deeper than VvD and Robertson and looks like he's pulled TAA with him but still 2-3m away, hold his line and there is no way Dzeko can be onside and likely Naingolan doesn't even play that pass. Awful and it's not even about the misjudged header.
 
AS has been said. Freeze it the moment Naingolan plays the long pass - Lovren is 7-8m deeper than VvD and Robertson and looks like he's pulled TAA with him but still 2-3m away, hold his line and there is no way Dzeko can be onside and likely Naingolan doesn't even play that pass. Awful and it's not even about the misjudged header.
Oh come on, he had to look at the ball, saw Dzeko making a run in the corner of his eye so followed him. He was stupid to try and go for a header (completely misjudged the flight) but we can’t blame him for that. Had he simply stood his ground when Dzeko received the ball we would have been fine.
 
Not sure what to make of the goal. No pressure on the midfielder. Beautiful pass and a Nice run and finish. Remember that these guys are in the semi in CL so they can play some football.

The tweet indicates that Lovren should try to play him offside? That can't be serious. He must try to defend the situation surely.
Of course he should play him offside ... Lovren was 7-8m deeper than VVD and Robertson ! Why ? That was the error, not so much the missed header.
 
Oh come on, he had to look at the ball, saw Dzeko making a run in the corner of his eye so followed him. He was stupid to try and go for a header (completely misjudged the flight) but we can’t blame him for that. Had he simply stood his ground when Dzeko received the ball we would have been fine.
And why was he not checking where his defensive line was ? Like any good CB would have been doing ? Had he done that Dzeko couldn't have been 10m up the pitch from where he otherwise would have been !
 
Of course he should play him offside ... Lovren was 7-8m deeper than VVD and Robertson ! Why ? That was the error, not so much the missed header.

No way. He was max 3 meters deeper. But the reson for the left side of the defence (VVD and Robbo) not falling deper there is that no Roma players moved into that room. With no pressure on the Roma player it is impossible for Lovren to move forward there. He need to follow the player.

It is Equal to suggest the Roma defence should try to play Salah offside on 2-0. Impossible when the midfield are lost.
 
No way. He was max 3 meters deeper. But the reson for the left side of the defence (VVD and Robbo) not falling deper there is that no Roma players moved into that room. With no pressure on the Roma player it is impossible for Lovren to move forward there. He need to follow the player.

It is Equal to suggest the Roma defence should try to play Salah offside on 2-0. Impossible when the midfield are lost.
No. It's simple .... just stop the video at the exact moment Naingolan plays the ball, you don't have to guess. He was 7-8m deeper than VvD and Robertson. And what is this about needing a 'reason' for VvD or Robertson not to be deeper, it's a team game and the defensive line should be exactly that, a line, it's not based on 'reasons' why one person or another is deeper. It's how offsides come to pass.
 
No. It's simple .... just stop the video at the exact moment Naingolan plays the ball, you don't have to guess. He was 7-8m deeper than VvD and Robertson. And what is this about needing a 'reason' for VvD or Robertson not to be deeper, it's a team game and the defensive line should be exactly that, a line, it's not based on 'reasons' why one person or another is deeper. It's how offsides come to pass.

Sorry mate but you'r wrong. At the exact time Nangoilan Plays the ball Lovren is 4 meter behind VVD and less behind Robbo. Look at the shadowed Fields. They are 4-5 meters each and Lovren is exactly one Field behind. And talking about holding a line when there is no pressure at the midfield makes no sense mate.
 
Sorry mate but you'r wrong. At the exact time Nangoilan Plays the ball Lovren is 4 meter behind VVD and less behind Robbo. Look at the shadowed Fields. They are 4-5 meters each and Lovren is exactly one Field behind. And talking about holding a line when there is no pressure at the midfield makes no sense mate.

Gaze upon the Shadowed Fields, child.....for there, there lies your destiny.......and your doom.
 
Sorry mate but you'r wrong. At the exact time Nangoilan Plays the ball Lovren is 4 meter behind VVD and less behind Robbo. Look at the shadowed Fields. They are 4-5 meters each and Lovren is exactly one Field behind. And talking about holding a line when there is no pressure at the midfield makes no sense mate.
I think your idea of a metre is slightly larger than the actual given measurement ! Though it's maybe not quite the 8m I mentioned (those lines are more than 5m apart, you couldn't pace them in 5 stretching steps). However look at Lovren, ball watching and not looking at Dzeko, in fact I doubt he even knows he's there. And of course there needs to be a rough line, not staggered all over the pitch, to enable offsides from long passes to even be a 'thing'.


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Are we not querying why van Dijk is so far forward, if we're focusing just how far behind lovren is?

Trent and robbo seem to be sloghtly holding where the line should be, Virgil goes walkies and lovren is following dzeko

Poor positioning but he had an excuse in wanting to mark dzeko, who is a brilliant player.

He shouldn't have tried to intercept, rather go to the man.

That's my criticism
 
VVD does travel up the pitch a lot more often now, he stayed back continually when we first got him & I commented it seemed odd as for Southampton he would range forwards.

It may seem odd when isolated like that, but if you watch him during games he so often intercepts the ball high up the pitch cos he can read the game so well.
 
VVD does travel up the pitch a lot more often now, he stayed back continually when we first got him & I commented it seemed odd as for Southampton he would range forwards.

It may seem odd when isolated like that, but if you watch him during games he so often intercepts the ball high up the pitch cos he can read the game so well.
He does, but I don't get why he thought that was the time to charge forward.

It's by the by because he didn't impact on the goal, but criticising lovren for being so far behind van dijk, when he's going walkies, is just looking for sticks to beat him with
 
Wasnt there one year when Roma fans went stabbing after Mancs too?
Forgot when that was tho.
I hope UEFA do say something about it
#poortheteambus
 
Buriram United have got an ace-sounding front three:

"Jaja Diogo....controls the high ball beautifully, turns and lays it wide to the onrushing Supachok....Supachok looks up and chips a lovely ball into the near post......Sarachat's in there! What a finish! GOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL! SARAAAAAACHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!"
 
Buriram United have got an ace-sounding front three:

"Jaja Diogo....controls the high ball beautifully, turns and lays it wide to the onrushing Supachok....Supachok looks up and chips a lovely ball into the near post......Sarachat's in there! What a finish! GOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL! SARAAAAAACHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!"

Sound like Nerve agents to me.
 
Are we not querying why van Dijk is so far forward, if we're focusing just how far behind lovren is?

Trent and robbo seem to be sloghtly holding where the line should be, Virgil goes walkies and lovren is following dzeko

Poor positioning but he had an excuse in wanting to mark dzeko, who is a brilliant player.

He shouldn't have tried to intercept, rather go to the man.

That's my criticism

If you watch the picture, VVD, Trent and Robbo are quit close to each other. Lovren is doing his own thing.
No excuse, he stays with the others its offside. Poor defending, poor decision making and just a brainless moment.
 
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